Black neighborhood rejects Trader Joe's

YoungTriz said:
everybody in the portland area knows thats the hood area, north and north east portland and its been like that for a while... what have the paalf been doing to make it better? seems like their plan hasnt been working all these years...
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again, this is it. their full-court defense.


keep anything out that might raise rent and property taxes.


and if it's anything like NYC hoods then local liquor stores and fast food spots are aplenty. I.E. business that might actually keep property values down.
 
YoungTriz said:
they owned a home or renting?
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Both. My parents rented but had that home for over 7 yrs. My fams lost their home on 9th and Alberta after 18 yrs. Good friend of my fathers lost his business (lala mini mart) on 33rd ave and killingsworth due to the rise of property tax.
But what do I know, I still shop at Walmart :smh:
 
“We acknowledge that the Portland Development Commission’s (PDC’s) past work in North and Northeast Portland has contributed to the destructive impact of gentrification and displacement on the African American community.”
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I would imagine this is probably why the community leaders are skeptical 
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Wayniac211 said:
 
YoungTriz said:
they owned a home or renting?
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Both. My parents rented but had that home for over 7 yrs. My fams lost their home on 9th and Alberta after 18 yrs. Good friend of my fathers lost his business (lala mini mart) on 33rd ave and killingsworth due to the rise of property tax.
But what do I know, I still shop at Walmart
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Wow, sorry to hear that but it's good to have some insight rather than just speculation.  Any idea of the %  increase of the property taxes?  Is that why your family lost their home as well?
 
ksteezy said:
Their LOSS... TJs is amazing and much more affordable than many other large supermarkets....
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nah

nobody wins in this situation (ftr i love TJs, hell i shop at whole foods also)

there are some VERY valid points being made in this thread

gentrification is a touchy subject an I cant draw my own final conclusion......
 
YoungTriz said:
everybody in the portland area knows thats the hood area, north and north east portland and its been like that for a while... what have the paalf been doing to make it better? seems like their plan hasnt been working all these years...
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You talk like N and NE are just terrible favela like neighborhoods or something, it does not NEED to change. The black culture in N and NE, as washed down as it has been in recent years, does not need to be completely destroyed. If they wanted the culture that comes along with stores like this they would move to Happy Valley or Lake Oswego (Lake No Negro). Portland is completely owned by white people aside from N and NE, we can't keep anything? Not Sabin, Woodlawn, or even the neighborhood by Emanuel and Dawson Park? Point is is shouldn't be forced on the people.


Wayniac211 said:
Both. My parents rented but had that home for over 7 yrs. My fams lost their home on 9th and Alberta after 18 yrs. Good friend of my fathers lost his business (lala mini mart) on 33rd ave and killingsworth due to the rise of property tax.
But what do I know, I still shop at Walmart :smh:
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Man that's right over by the Alberta market with the good fried chicken, I'm sorry to hear that. It's happened to a lot of families I grew up with.
 
What are the grocery stores in that neighborhood? Would they reject any proposed development?
 
JJs07 said:
What are the grocery stores in that neighborhood? Would they reject any proposed development?
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I don't know exactly what neighborhood it is (I don't think it said in the article) but in N and NE there's Safeway, Fred Meyers, and another big grocery store I'm forgetting. There's a few New Seasons as well, which I don't see they didn't fight to keep those out like TJ.
 
These neighborhoods needs these types of stores. So many people have no idea what they feeding there families.

Unprocessed foods >
 
HTownShoeFiend said:
I don't know exactly what neighborhood it is (I don't think it said in the article) but in N and NE there's Safeway, Fred Meyers, and another big grocery store I'm forgetting. There's a few New Seasons as well, which I don't see they didn't fight to keep those out like TJ.
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Yea, I have no clue...I was just curious if there would be backlash towards any sort of new development, or if it was just directed at TJ's?
 
JJs07 said:
Yea, I have no clue...I was just curious if there would be backlash towards any sort of new development, or if it was just directed at TJ's?
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I'd say any development that continues the process of gentrification whether it's tearing old homes down and building luxury town homes or building the TJs.

It's not just TJs
 
How is Trader Joe's expensive? In NYC TJ's is actually the cheaper alternative between Whole Foods and Food Emporium. The wealthy usually go to WF and FE, while everyone else just goes to Gristedes, DAG or TJ's.

I can understand why that community fought against having a Trader Joe's, but that the business would've brought in plenty of jobs for the living in that city. It's a tough issue and some things would have to be sacrificed. I think in the long run, the TJ's would've been good for the city
 
Hank Scorpio said:
How is Trader Joe's expensive? In NYC TJ's is actually the cheaper alternative between Whole Foods and Food Emporium. The wealthy usually go to WF and FE, while everyone else just goes to Gristedes, DAG or TJ's.

I can understand why that community fought against having a Trader Joe's, but that the business would've brought in plenty of jobs for the living in that city. It's a tough issue and some things would have to be sacrificed. I think in the long run, the TJ's would've been good for the city
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C'mon bruh. Look at your example.

Any area with a Shoppers, Food Lion, or smaller neighborhood owned grocery ain't trying to hear what you saying.

Ya'll using higher, more expensive groceries as examples to prove ya'll point. When people who really live in areas where money is tight ain't shopping at none of ya'll examples anyway.


A TJ would bring in more jobs, thats without argument. But nobody is going to shop there... It probably wouldn't have lasted anyway...
 
So anything that improves quality of life in the area should be avoided?

Anything that makes the neighborhood better is going to result in an increase of property value. Safety, education, infrastructure. These are goals for society and government to improve our quality of life.

Also, how is a 'black community' diverse if you're referring to them by the color of their skin. Gentrifying the neighborhood would make it diverse by adding people from various ethnic and cultural backgrounds. Nobody wants to live in an impoverished neighborhood.
 
JPEG said:
So anything that improves quality of life in the area should be avoided?

Anything that makes the neighborhood better is going to result in an increase of property value. Safety, education, infrastructure. These are goals for society and government to improve our quality of life.

Also, how is a 'black community' diverse if you're referring to them by the color of their skin. Gentrifying the neighborhood would make it diverse by adding people from various ethnic and cultural backgrounds. Nobody wants to live in an impoverished neighborhood.
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Is it impoverished because the quality of living is bad? Or because because its a black neighborhood?


Sometimes I feel people can't differentiate the two...
 
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