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What did Tracy McGrady ever do better than Grant Hill except shoot more?

 

Still waiting...

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Still waiting...

Like I asked at first, what has Grant Hill EVER done? What's his memorable moment? Only THING I remember is him being injured and that ONE alley oop dunk he flushed down with his left hand falling out of bounds.
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Still waiting...

Like I asked at first, what has Grant Hill EVER done? What's his memorable moment? Only THING I remember is him being injured and that ONE alley oop dunk he flushed down with his left hand falling out of bounds.

It's not about his "moments" but more so his natural ability.
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post #34 of 67
I'm old enough to watch all 3. I'd have to say

Grant Hill =/= Tracy McGrady
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Penny

Penny was sweet tho.
post #35 of 67
Grant Hill FOSHO.

The man was Mr. Triple Double.

Also, if you're considering playoff performances you should consider their teammates during those games.
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Like I asked at first, what has Grant Hill EVER done?

 

This reeks of ignorance.

 

He was one of the most well rounded players to ever pick up a basketball.

 

0 holes in his game.


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post #37 of 67
Grant Hill easily
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post #38 of 67
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Like I asked at first, what has Grant Hill EVER done?

This reeks of ignorance.

He was one of the most well rounded players to ever pick up a basketball.

0 holes in his game.

Gotta agree with this, and TMac is my favorite player ever (along with Bron)

Grant Hill did EVERYTHING. Great scorer, rebounder, passer (some of the passes he made are just sick.gif), and defender. And he did all of that at an elite level too. He was basically LeBron before LeBron.
post #39 of 67
Grant Hill...We were really robbed by not seeing a healthy T-Mac and Grant together though. Would have ruled the East for a good couple years.
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It's not about his "moments" but more so his natural abillity.

They all had natural ability. You guys seem to be more stat watchers when mentioning grant. He wasn't a better shooter than penny or mac. Hell grant didn't even have a three point shot until later in his career.

Better scorer? Nope. More clutch? Nope. Better passer? Not better than penny. Probably about equal to mac in that category.

Grant was a better rebounder and maybe defender.

Also, I think y'all seem to overlook the head to heads penny had vs the legendary bulls squads.
post #41 of 67

damn, HiIll and Tmac were pretty good. I caught Penny when he was with the suns and knicks so I didn't really watch him when he was with the magic.

 

 

I go Hill.

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Tmac could not get out of the 1st round until last year with the spurs(and that don't even count), Grant Hill very similar story, could not win in the post season.  At least with Penny, he made the eastern conference finals with the magic. (granted he had shaq, he was not in his "prime" yet.)

based on post season success i would have to say that penny would have had a better career 


You mean made the NBA Finals.....?
post #43 of 67
Penny had a higher ceiling IMO.
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post #44 of 67
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Only thing that skews my thought on that OKB is that Hill was putting up good numbers relative to his age only just a few years ago. He very well could have been statiscally at his peak during his early 30's had he never been injuried.


Anyway...This discussion is 'bout over. Time for McGrady lovefest.

yeah but not many players peek past 28 which is when he first got hurt, we realistically only missed 1 prime year.


and grant wasn't really a shooter, so its not like his game would age exceptionally well.
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post #46 of 67
Grant Hill based off of Prospect.
post #47 of 67
I grew up watching Penny & Grant Hill and also followed McGrady, but if I had to choose 1 player out of those 3, in their prime, for one game...it would be Grant Hill...dude was Lebron before Lebron...wasn't as big as Bron, but he filled up the stat sheets the same way....points, assists, rebs...could go off for a triple-double on any given night...
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post #48 of 67
hill, imo

the talent that was robbed because of injuries for all 3 though tired.gif
post #49 of 67
I'm a little old school with it and vividly remember each being drafted, and actually remember the moments of being mad when my squad traded Chris Webber on draft night for Penny and feeling stupid the first time seeing him ball. Lol. Having watched each extensively, and live at their heights, I would go in this order:

Penny
Hill
TMac

All excellent passers (Penny was best) and scorers. Penny and Hill were better defensively. TMac lacked leadership and heart/passion. We saw prime TMac at his full potential. Penny and Hill never got their ceilings, which speaks measures of the their greatness, as they're being mentioned here. TMac was phenomenal, but Penny and Hill were just awesome to experience.
post #50 of 67
I hope Rose doesn't end up like them... but it's looking like it. *knocks on wood*
post #51 of 67

yall do realize tmac had one of the 15 greatest seasons ever in 02-03 right? 

 

tmac was/is my favorite player of all time so im biased, but god damn was he better than hill and penny.

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post #52 of 67
I'd rather watch Penny play than the other two. Son was a magician with the rock. That spin step back is the sickest move I've ever seen. Haven't seen anyone do it since.
post #53 of 67
I'm a Penny homer, but Grant Hill was on a different level doe. Like someone stated, dude was like a walking triple double and was a stat filler. Damn shame injuries got him, but real spit Grant Hill was on par with Michael Jordan. *Flame suit on*

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That crossover on Don McLean. mean.gif @1:28 mark.
post #54 of 67
Lol grant hill is dead last here and its not close.

For a stretch i could argue t mac n penny were best at their positions n the entire league. That never happened for Grant

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post #55 of 67
Grant Hill.


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post #56 of 67
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yall do realize tmac had one of the 15 greatest seasons ever in 02-03 right? 

tmac was/is my favorite player of all time so im biased, but god damn was he better than hill and penny.

i FEEL you fam. I'm a TMac stan myself but Grant would have been a top 15 player ever
post #57 of 67
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Tmac could not get out of the 1st round until last year with the spurs(and that don't even count), Grant Hill very similar story, could not win in the post season.  At least with Penny, he made the eastern conference finals with the magic. (granted he had shaq, he was not in his "prime" yet.)

 

based on post season success i would have to say that penny would have had a better career 

you do realize theres only like 2/3 years where you could say he ****** up not getting out of the first round? dude had less than talent around him than kobe before pau came in ORL.. the **** else you expect. then in houston there was always himself or yao hurt. but there were 2 years he ******. 06/07 comes to mind.

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post #58 of 67

Grant Hill ...he made the whole team better, McGrady had some help (Vince or Yao)  & Penny had Shaq ...

post #59 of 67
Grant Hill without a doubt. He was a triple double machine.
post #60 of 67
I think Penny is the most overrated. Nike's marketing made him look better.

Grant or Tmac with Shaq would have been nasty.
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