You seemed to be confused with what I'm saying. I'm not saying Stark is free from blame for creating Ultron. I'm specifically disputing the bull **** lie that Stark's idea of saving the world is the Ultron in the movie. That's just you purposely trying to twist facts and spin ****.
You got a clear bias and can't be honest with how things went down. I'll call it out every time. It's so transparent.
Now you're just relying on story telling elements to support your arguments. The movie wasn't going to end with an extinction level event Saying things work out for one but not the other as if it was Tony that said lets ditch all the ppl is again more spin and bull **** from you.
You can't deal in specifics cuz that's when your bias will show so you stick to vague statements in between lies about the sequence of events.
You went from Cap's plan worked out well to things work out for Cap The **** is that? Hoping things work out IS NOT A PLAN.
As far as working out well, it was Tony's idea to finish The Vision's download and release him. Cap wanted to keep him locked up. Cap was 100% wrong. So I guess that worked out for Tony. All it took was Thor telling Cap to shut the **** up cuz he had a vision.
Edited by Master Zik - 7/21/15 at 2:16pm