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The problem is all the head honchos wanna be the big banana. I said it before but there are too many "creative voices" and execs that want to be the leader.

I disagree with TV shows fighting movies, because Movies spend 2 months MAX at the theaters. TV shows have longer running times and more space for product placement.
This is what made the MCU so successful right now. ONE voice, ONE leadership. Then Disney went and bought Marvel and it will all turn in to a battle of the execs.
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Yeah but they compete for the same, time, viewership and sometimes the same dollars. If it wasn't for the Kentucky derby, and the package money fight, AoU would have another $100 in the bank. People couldn't spend 90 on the fight and money for the tickets.
 
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amel223 said:
That article was so pessimistic and paints the relationship between film and tv in a bad light. That's unfortunate if it's all true.
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The problem is all the head honchos wanna be the big banana. I said it before but there are too many "creative voices" and execs that want to be the leader.

I disagree with TV shows fighting movies, because Movies spend 2 months MAX at the theaters. TV shows have longer running times and more space for product placement.
This is what made the MCU so successful right now. ONE voice, ONE leadership. Then Disney went and bought Marvel and it will all turn in to a battle of the execs.
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Last I checked the marvel movies weren't even in full swing with any kind of vision until Disney came along and bought them.
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amel223 said:
^There's really only two "voices"


One for tv and one for film


Problem is the relationship isn't smooth, per the article


Lol, Disney and Marvel have been partners for all the movies except IH and the first IM, so the narrative that Disney and Marvel can't work together doesn't exist
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Respectfully disagree. Disney went after them BECAUSE of IM, and the boatloads of money they got from that. If that movie had been a middle success Disney never gets involved. They saw what Favreau and Feige saw. Tons of characters with the potential to cast at their will and make/create stars by their hands.

Remember that before IM, Spiderman and X-Men made serious bling and a bunch of studios tried to get in on that.
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Exactly what difference do you see then? What great vision was there with IM that'd give you any indication of further plans?

The transition from before IM to after IM has stuck with the same plan. Feige is still in charge. Nothing has changed there.

The dude that's head of the tv is Jeph Loeb, dude came up through the comics and was suited for the position given his work in tv. So between them 2 coordinating the tv and movies exactly changed from when they did IM to when they did Avengers? Other than continued success. Where exactly is this battle of execs? Can you name them? I don't think you can prove that the one voice one leadership that you saw with Marvel when they made IM suddenly changed when they did Thor or Cap or Avengers or GotG.

Keep in mind Disney didn't just by the studio it bought Marvel Ent in it's entirety. They're making more money off merchandising than the movies.
 
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Both IM and IH indicated the possibility of a shared universe. This was before Disney's acquisition. I don't think Marvel was lacking in vision prior to the acquisition.

But at the same time, I also don't see any evidence of friction between Marvel and Disney. They made 9 movies together and the shared universe got better as it went on.
 
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That article mostly deals with movie guys seeing the tv guys a certain way and the difference netflix makes since it's basically the Marvel guys chance to sort of do a tv thing.

The only real hard Disney related thing there was what ABC wants to do and the speculation that the movies would ignore the work done in AOS. They mention other non-netflix shows but give no details about them actually happening other than to say they will happen and complicate things. If you're selling a certain narrative about the current state of Marvel studios, statements like that only help to keep generating that sort of sensationalism. Like I said though talk like that is par for the course and usual when we're talking about studios on the tv and movie scale.

Reading it, I didn't get the idea that it's Disney forcing Marvel to bring more shows on ABC. Sounds more like Loeb who is running tv and animations sees the opportunity to have more shows on ABC while also doing netflix shows. Not much conflict when all the ABC shows have to do is keep a tight continuity with each other and continue to crossover with the movies when they want. They haven't even done another show yet anyway. Netflix got their first phase in place and according to this article are unsure what to do next or how to approach using Blade, GR, and Punisher cuz they kill and/or fight the supernatural.



amel223 said:
Both IM and IH indicated the possibility of a shared universe. This was before Disney's acquisition.
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And it continues after Disney's acquisition.

I'm asking somebody to point to how Disney has suddenly changed things in the movies and since there's only one other show on tv I can't see how there's suddenly multiple voices.

If everybody is reporting back to Feige when it comes to the shared universe I don't see the problem.
 
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I think dude's argument was that IM was a successful hit before Disney picked it up and was implying that Marvel is flourishing despite Disney's interference.

Hard argument to prove or disprove
 
That sounds ridiculous. Aint up to nobody to disprove it though.

Especially since it seems solely motivated by that article just posted. Exactly what could be brought up in the movies and one tv show that could prove that?

I mean I've heard ppl constantly complaining and worrying some parts of Marvel will be "disneyfied" but that's usually do to their own ignorance (not knowing about the movie studios Disney owns and shows they've produced in the past) especially now when you got something like the DD series that's more mature than what they've done in the past. And pretty soon Marvel is gonna bite that bullet in some form and give fans a live action Blade and Punisher that'll be killing in the same shared universe. Not sure what's gonna be disneyfied about that.

What dude is saying about too many voices and battles of execs really can't be proved when you can't name the execs or extra voices. I mean Feige been there and so has Loeb. We basically getting in to that "higher up" area ppl like to trot out to back up a theory that doesn't have much support.
 
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I take offense to the article writer saying Blade would put netflix on the goofy side. It's not like marvel doesn't have goofy crap on their other shows or movies. What would be goofy about Blade slicing up vampire fools and leaving blood everywhere? Daredevil is a blind guy with radar in his head who had some fight training from another blind guy. Plus the main villain was some albino gorilla who had temper tantrums.
 
Would a Blade series work with a Netflx budget? I know they gave Marco Polo like $90 million dollars. I'd imaging with all the effects and all that, it'll need more than that.
 
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Stretching it calling Fisk an albino :lol:
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I was going to say vanilla gorilla but that term is overused.

Yeah, the marco polo budget was probably crazy. The cgi needed for Blade might be costly and something they want to avoid.
 
Or they could just do a lot of heavy makeup like other vampire tv shows. The Strain on fx has good character designs.

I actually forgot there was a blade tv show years back on spike tv. Best thing about that show was Jill Wagner.
 
Info about the Pym Particles

"Dr. Henry Pym (Michael Douglas) originally discovered and isolated a rare group of subatomic particles, which have become known as the 'Pym Particles', which could increase or decrease the size and mass of objects or living beings." The description continues, "The Pym Particles work by stunting matter into the Kosmos Dimension when shrinking a subject or accruing extra matter from that dimension when enlarging.

http://marvel.com/antman#/antview
 
amel223 said:
Spider verse is awesome man. Sucks thinking that secret wars would be killing off all those spideys.
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That sucks 
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I love how they mentioned Garfield and Maguire in a fight scene lmao
 
Many I gotta get my Secret Wars on... stayed away cuz I have mega-screw-everything events but it looks to be interesting.
 
Surprised SamJack doesn't have a 50 film contract with Marvel?

Samuel L. Jackson was asked if he would like to return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe after his nine-picture contract lets up, to which he replied: “Of course, I’m looking for a contract extension right now, yeah; I’m looking to re-up.”
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He also, surprisingly, won't be in CW.

“It’s an amazing amount of fun,” said Samuel L. Jackson when asked about playing S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Nick Fury in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. “I finally met [comics writer] Mark [Millar], last year, when I was doing Kingsman, ‘cause he was on set one day, and I finally got a chance to thank him for making Nick Fury black and changing the whole dynamic. It’s really great to be the connective tissue between so many different characters in so many different films, that brings those guys together. But I’m not in Captain America 3. I can’t figure that out, but I’m not. I guess I’m still out there, trying to figure out what happened to S.H.I.E.L.D. and who these other people are.”

Samuel L. Jackson continued talking up his Marvel role and he also reminisced about Star Wars. “But it’s an amazing honor to be that guy, to be Nick Fury, to be in that particular world, and to be a character that people believe. It’s great. I’m as grateful for being in that, as I was being in Star Wars with George [Lucas] and to play a character that people remember, like Mace Windu. It’s all great. It’s hard not to be a part of something that you know, if people study film for the next 200 years, they’ll be talking about Star Wars and Avengers series, and all that stuff.”
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Called it about a certain character....if it is indeed true.

Rumor: A New Hulk May Appear In The MCU

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/06...-in-the-mcu-3275444?lt_source=external,manual

Somebody close to production has reached out and informed us that General Thunderbolt Ross will indeed be Hulk-ing out in Civil War. Additionally, as Bleeding Cool reported, Bruce Banner WILL be involved and I'm hearing there is a fight between Hulk and Red Hulk that is supposed to rival the Hulkbuster fight from Age of Ultron. Generally we don't report on unsubstantiated rumors from unknown sources, but now that we at least have WAW's scoop to compare it to, it seems a lot more likely and thus worth reporting on as a rumor.

We reached out to Marvel for confirmation, but as of now our request has gone without reply.
 
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