Originally Posted by lamekilla
Originally Posted by Master Zik
Yeah I read it. I was originally going to cross it all out cuz it was more bull **** but as you can now see I edited my post and addressed it. It's just corporate synergy and if you were really looking this stuff up you'd know it's exactly that because of Marvel employees in the comic and animation divisions (Tom Brevoort, Steve Wacker, Axel Alonso, Jeph Loeb, etc.) have publicly said it is exactly that.
Those are not subtle chess moves that led to anything. You're saying the poster is part of this grand goal to have Spidey in the MCU. You're calling it a subtle chess move. I'm asking you is there anything else that could support this happening like if Marvel had done something like this before. Video games and cartoons are not what I'm asking for. Canceling EMH for Avengers Assemble is not a subtle chess move. An update to Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is not a subtle chess move. Besides I said provide an example that led to something else. What did those things lead to? You're saying a poster for the 75th anny is foreshadowing the cross over SONY and MARVEL. You're saying the two studios are going to work out or are currently working out all of bureaucratic red tape and hashing out who will earn what and how much percentage for a Spider-Man appearance in a MCU film.
You could at least try if you're going to do this. Say some bull **** like there were subtle hints for the Iron Man post credit scene with Fury or something. Talk about tweets from 2006 in how Marvel always hinted they were going to get Hulk rights back and do an Avengers film or how Nick Fury was always going to be black in the movies. Something that gives this current point of yours any credibility or a precedent that shows it might happen again.
Now I wonder if you've been reading my posts. It's not a coincidence btw. I straight up addressed this in like my first reply to you.
Zik what was the purpose of the corporate synergy then?
To make money. They think aligning certain properties that are in the public eye on multiple platforms will make them more money.
You think these animators and producers like Loeb and Quesada are calling the shots?
Loeb is the head of Marvel tv. He oversees the animation and tv shows. I don't think I need to explain what he does right? He's dealing with the netflix shows, AOS, Agent Carter, and the cartoons. Quesada is Marvel Comics chief creative officer. He's the go between for publishing to every other part of Marvel entertainment. Outside of just his art duties with certain divisions he deals with all of the new projects on the multiple mediums to relay back to Marvel comics. Perhaps you don't understand the importance of these roles. These aren't producers and animators. If what you're saying is true those two dudes especially would know about these "subtle chess moves" you're pulling out your ***.
Again I don't think you're researching this stuff at all at this point. Just talking out your ***.
No these came from higher ups
Name these higher ups. Outside of Feige who didn't I name? You want quotes from Ike P.? Perhaps the the Publisher of Marvel? Who exactly are you talking about that'll make what you're saying sound like smart "subtle chess move"?
Do you mean to tell me you want to take this all the way back to Disney? Despite it being widely reported for Marvel and many other companies that Disney owns that they leave their acquisitions to do them as long as they make money? Disney just gives the okay on ****. They're intertwined in how Marvel promotes and spreads their brand. They're not making day to day decisions on "subtle chess moves" I'd say this much though, if what you're saying had any truth to it they'd automatically have to be involved given the amount of money they'd have negotiate to do this with SONY which is unlikely given how much Marvel Studios is already making them and projected to make them as they continue and that they're already making money from SONY just by them continuing to make the Spidey movies after they just negotiated for the rights of everything else Spidey but the film rights.
who are trying to extend the Marvel brand and keep uniformity for these kids that aren't reading comics anymore but watching television shows so when a movie comes out with these lesser known marvel heroes the kids recognize them and drag their parents to go.
Like I said man, you don't really know what you're talking about. I just named some of the main guys involved whose job is to coordinate, think up, and execute the success of the Marvel brand.
It's all about the films now, you were one of the people who were trying to convince me of that when I was going on my rant about ASM2. The comics are second to film.
Seems to me you haven't grasped what I said then or now.
The films being the most important is exactly why what you're saying doesn't make sense. If Marvel was preparing for Spidey to be in the MCU they'd wouldn't use a poster as a clue. Cart before the horse man. The comics isn't dictating the films and neither is the video games. They're not clues either.
You dismissed my Marvel vs capcom 3 explanation but you've yet to acknowledge the truth in it. Rocket Raccoon and Nova were not known characters outside of a few comic book circles in 2011. For Marvel to add them to their heavily anticipated fighting game over many other returning characters and 2-3 years before the general public knew who they were was not a coincidence but was a strategic move to prepare people for these characters being heavily promoted by marvel. But of course you'll also dismiss that as nothing and ignore the what I posted about the other character that were also introduced in the update that now have MCU projects coming up
It's not a strategic move. If they know they're about to have something ready where these characters will have a buzz or be in a movie it would only make sense to prepare for their exposure. You should read some interviews in how this process commonly works. At times it's a suggestion, something like there's a lot of chatter about Nova right now so add him in the game. Sometimes it's taken, some times it's not.
Right now you've yet to establish how or why this poster thing makes sense.
You still haven't given me what I asked for either. You claimed your point is Marvel makes subtle chess moves. I'm asking for another instance where they did something like this that led to something else. If you seriously think adding a character to a video game is the foundation of what you're talking about you might as well stop now. They already own these characters. There's no negotiation with another studio. They just do it cuz they can. Isn't Wolverine in the video game? Where's your theory that he's crossing over? The Thing?
Originally Posted by Master Zik
See here we go. What were the clues and subtle hints 3 years ago that we were going to get a GotG movie? You know before they announced it publicly, before rumors.
Did I miss a Peter Quill cameo in a cartoon? or were the whole team on the cover of the 72nd anny poster?
Marvel never did anything that made no sense btw. The 75th anny poster makes sense, there's nothing to question about it. Several covers for the anny book about to come out.
When Marvel announced GotG nobody saw it coming for the most part, and most fans didn't know who they were. Those that did either didn't like it or were unsure if it would work. I mean you could go back 3 years to some of these threads to check. So let me know what these subtle chess moves were 3 years ago.
Look back to what I just posted. But again you'll dismiss it and say I'm reaching
3 years ago what was the subtle chess move? 2011.
If it's the video game you're talking about then I gotta say you're really not aware about how this stuff works.Edited by Master Zik - 9/16/14 at 11:41pm