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This may sound like a silly fear but I hope this movie has no elements of time travel a la DoFP
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same. i was never a fan of time travel in the marvel events even though most major events have time travel
always feels like a copout solution
it was perfectly used in DoFP though
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No time travel I will bet, but maybe a little reality altering or something along the line. The scene with the shield being broken could have to do with that description in the comic con footage in which everybody is dead and Tony Stark is looking on. Scarlett Witch could be involved in that.
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'Jessica Jones' Is Next Marvel Netflix Series After 'Daredevil'
Netflix’s Ted Sarandos has revealed that casting is currently underway on the second Marvel Netflix series ‘Jessica Jones’.
Aug 26, 2014 by B. Alan Orange
Speaking with Empire Magazine, Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos revealed that Jessica Jones is starting to heat up as Daredevil continues shooting on location in New York.
While he reveals that casting is underway on the next Marvel Netflix Series, he doesn’t say much else, as he is always under the watchful eye of Marvel Studios:
"Right now, the writers’ rooms are open and they’re looking at casting Jessica. If you sense some hesitation in my voice, that’s classic Marvel fashion. They like to keep that veil of secrecy. But Daredevil is already shooting, since that’s out first. Eventually the series will run very close together. You can then have a separate season where the characters will cross over."
The plan is for all four Marvel Netflix series, which includes Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage, to eventually culminate in The Defenders miniseries.
While Guardians of the Galaxy presented a more colorful, fun comic book adventure on the big screen, don’t look for the Marvel Netflix series to follow suite. While they do take place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe continuity, they will be a darker affair. Daredevil is setting the tone in the Hell’s Kitchen district, and promises to be grittier than the movie based on the comic book.
"The series will not be afraid to go darker than the film did. What we love about this particular set of heroes is that they’re a little more down to Earth. Costume wise and also in that these are gritty crime stories, more in the streets than in the clouds."
Jessica Jones is a fairly new character in the Marvel comic book universe, having debuted in 2001. She once had a crush on Peter Parker, and was present when he was bitten by the radioactive spider that gave him his powers. Soon after that infamous incident, the high school girl was involved in a car accident that killed the rest of her family. The collision involved a military convoy carrying radioactive chemicals, and after spending several months in a coma, she awoke, later discovering that her radiation exposure gave her super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career).
While her origins are closely tied with Spider-Man, it’s unlikely that Peter Parker will be mentioned by name in the series. It is not known what age she will be portrayed as in the TV show, with her look changing throughout the comic books. Jessica Jones is also married to Luke Cage in the comic books, but its not known if The Defenders will go down this road.
Maybe this is old news? My source is Bendis' tumblr. Yeah I see the date but I was not aware for some reason Jessica Jones show was up next (or maybe I just forgot).
Only have to worry about time travel when they introduce Kang. I don't see why time travel would play any role in this movie. Ultron doesn't need a time machine to decimate humanity.
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I hope no reality altering by SW too, making her too OP where she could just change the outcome or an event as if it didn't happen can become a cheap cop out or something. Like why wouldn't she bring someone back to life all the time if she could do it once? Stuff like that.
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I have this whole set in my closet and the complete X-Men by Jim Lee one. Wonder what it's worth, if anything. I have all the hologram cards from them both too.
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No, I don't see Ultron using it.
But that whole everyone being dead but Tony thing makes me kinda nervous. (according to descriptions of the sdcc trailer)
I know it's probably a nightmare but, I would hate for the arc to be him going back in time (maybe with the help of the Scarlet Witch) to save everyone from dying lol
But that whole everyone being dead but Tony thing makes me kinda nervous. (according to descriptions of the sdcc trailer)
I know it's probably a nightmare but, I would hate for the arc to be him going back in time (maybe with the help of the Scarlet Witch) to save everyone from dying lol
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Yeah that's not happening. SW probably intensifies the vision/nightmare...whatever it is.
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Possible spoilers.. could literally be exactly how the film goes... read at your discretion
It is after he(Ultron) completes a mission and is badly damaged. He turns evil after Tony makes a comment about "just making another one" and not even bothering to fix him in the slightest.
What happens that makes him self aware though
It is his programming. Tony makes him so that he can adapt to different situations, so he can learn to fight different opponents with ease. When Tony makes the comment about making another, Ultron takes it as a threat and then begins to realize that the Avengers are useless (in his mind at least)
>how are the twins involved
They are part of Hydra at first, and Hydra form an alliance with Ultron. For Ultron, the alliance provides him access to expendable soldiers and the Twins, which he utilizes until he becomes strong enough to take on the Avengers himself. Hydra believes that Ultron will spare them after he wipes out the rest of humanity. Well, look at the scene where Ultron picks up the robot and squishes its head. Look closely. They both have the same design and Avengers logo on their chests.
There are multiple Ultron machines in the tower, but Tony only uploads the program into one at a time. This one gets destroyed by Thor after he picks Tony up by the neck. Tony says that they will all protect him, even with just a rudimentary AI and Thor tests it out.Basically. He made a single learning AI (Ultron) but because it learns on its own, it can only be in one single machine at a time (movie logic basically). Ultron comes back from a mission badly damaged, Tony says something like "Well, this one is junk, I'll just make another" and leaves Ultron to be "taken out" of this machine. Ultron decides at the last minute to preserve itself and becomes self aware.
Eventually Ultron creates a hive mind of sorts for himself, meaning that he can assume control over ANY Ultron bot in his army at ANY time, which is why he is nearly impossible to destroy in this movie. He eventually gets a permanent body that is super strong and keeps himself in that one body.
>He quits the Avengers because of that guilt, right?
That's who's seat is empty in the interior jet scene in the trailer - it's after the rest of the team finds out that Tony basically caused all of this, that's why they look so upset.
>is Dr.Strange hinted at in this film at all?
Yes, in the form of quick easter eggs. PAY ATTENTION.
>Is he going to be a big player in the civil war?
No clue. I haven't done anything there yet.>>49854144
>Back to Ultron though, where does his personality come from?
He develops it after gaining sentience. He escapes from being dismantled/taken out of his current body.
>Is he literally just raging at Tony for discarding him? That seems a little pedestrian.
At first, yes. The Avengers actually easily defeat him the first time they encounter him, but his program gets put into another form and it escapes, finding Hydra and the Twins.
Here, let me break down a few of the things in the trailer that are relevant here:
>Scene where Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are in the crowd is them sent to incite Banner into Hulking out (notice they are in a city, just like where the Hulk/Hulkbuster fight takes place), this is a distraction for Ultron to break into Stark's lab and steal tech to better himself. SW [frick]s with Banner's mind using her powers and QS provides a distraction for the other Avengers present.
>Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch going to Ultron after is is obviously upgraded is directly following his upgrades. He destroys Hydra but saves the Twins, seeing them as something akin to himself - an experiment and a tool used to further the agendas of other. The ruins around them are a Hydra building.
>Banner and Hawkeye in the woods are the Avengers sent after Ultron/QS/SW/Hydra after the incident in the city, they are there AS Ultron is upgrading himself, which is why he doesn't attack them, it's Hydra attacking them (the Hydra tank in the background)
>Ultron DOES attack them though, right before destroying Hydra's base there. The rest of the Avengers come in to pull them out and see Ultron, realizing that Tony caused this. The scene in the jet (with Banner in a blanket) follows.
>How is the situation solved after Ultron is defeated? What do they do with Tony?
He helps them in the end by creating a virus to mess with the army of Ultron clones. That's the scene with the "This is the end" line. They forgive him but are VERY distrusting of him, which is why he allows the government to step in, setting up Cap 3.
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oes thor buster?
No but it is hinted at. It is one of the numerous reasons that the rest of the team starts distrusting him.
>Overall, how powerful is Ultron?
He starts off as more of a mental threat and gets utterly DESTROYED the first time he encounters the Avengers (the scene where he crushes the head of the other robot) but begins to upgrade himself and slowly take over Stark's other "Ultrons". Eventually he is able to hold his own against pretty much the entire Avengers, even Hulk (who he knocks on his *** at one point)
>Also what does Vision do?
Vision is basically JARVIS put into a real form by Tony as a way for Tony to "be with" the Avengers. He is captured by Ultron and reprogrammed to help him, but eventually he is freed by Tony's virus that [frick]s with Ultron's hold on his robot army. He doesn't turn good until the final big fight in the movie and he helps fight the Ultron army (Vision is the test run for the virus and he helps the Avengers in the final fight as Tony flies to Ultron's "base" (the scene with Iron Man standing in front of a castle/fort) to upload the virus into Ultron's mainframe that connects him to his army)
It's Ultron's AI ****ing with Tony in the last fight scene as Tony tries to upload a virus to Ultron's mainframe. Ultron plays Tony a clip of "the future he helped to birth" The screen pans up from all off the dead Avengers and we see Ultron sitting on a throne. >Now who's throwing the cars at cap? That is the real question my friend [IMG]
It's Hulk during the scene where SW ****s with Banner's mind. Black Widow is called in because Banner says something about her being able to calm him down.
>wht is hawkguy's "larger role"?
Well, he and Banner go after QS and SW after the Hulk attack, which is a major point in the story.
No, Thor actually destroys a HUGE chunk of the Ultron army in the last fight scene. Black Widow and Banner are good friends but that is it. He still feels guilt for attacking her in Avengers 1 and has been working to recognize her even when he can't control the Hulk, which is why she is called in to calm him when he freaks out.
Hawkeye and Banner are sent to track down QS and SW. Banner initially isn't allowed to go but he convinces them to let him go after Black Widow vouches for him, saying that he won't hurt anyone else.
>>It is much better and the action is more refined. It sets up a lot of things for the future movies (many in easter eggs, some as flat out references Like Black Panther)
He takes her in an frees her + QS from Hydra so the choose to follow him. Up until nearly the end when they see just how destructive Ultron is and QS actually saves Cap (you can see this in the trailer where QS destroys an Ultron bot as it is attacking Cap)
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He is getting his new Vibranium skeleton from Wakanda
Oh the pics from WAAAY back when? That's the final battle sequence after QS and SW choose to help the Avengers. The see just how violent Ultron is and decide he is too volatile to follow anymore. Cap mentions Bucky and Widow mentions Falcon.
Tony nearly dies as he is uploading the virus. That's what Cap is doing as he kicks down the door - he and the other Avengers are looking for Tony after they defeat Ultron. He has to get surgery which is why you see the surgical stuff in the trailer
They develop more of a brother/sister relationship, not a romantic one.
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>At least answer this -- will we ever see the REAL Mandarin?
Yes.
Alright, **** it He is shown to be a partner of Hydra, they supply the technology, he supplies the troops. He will be a major villain in future movies, namely Dr. Strange.
He is Iron Man's enemy, but his rings will be a major plot point for Dr. Strange.
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Rhodey really doesn't have a big role in the movie, he mainly serves as the final little push for Tony to side with the government. Clint gets explained more, and his scenes are more central to the story this time around.
What happens that makes him self aware though
It is his programming. Tony makes him so that he can adapt to different situations, so he can learn to fight different opponents with ease. When Tony makes the comment about making another, Ultron takes it as a threat and then begins to realize that the Avengers are useless (in his mind at least)
>how are the twins involved
They are part of Hydra at first, and Hydra form an alliance with Ultron. For Ultron, the alliance provides him access to expendable soldiers and the Twins, which he utilizes until he becomes strong enough to take on the Avengers himself. Hydra believes that Ultron will spare them after he wipes out the rest of humanity. Well, look at the scene where Ultron picks up the robot and squishes its head. Look closely. They both have the same design and Avengers logo on their chests.
There are multiple Ultron machines in the tower, but Tony only uploads the program into one at a time. This one gets destroyed by Thor after he picks Tony up by the neck. Tony says that they will all protect him, even with just a rudimentary AI and Thor tests it out.Basically. He made a single learning AI (Ultron) but because it learns on its own, it can only be in one single machine at a time (movie logic basically). Ultron comes back from a mission badly damaged, Tony says something like "Well, this one is junk, I'll just make another" and leaves Ultron to be "taken out" of this machine. Ultron decides at the last minute to preserve itself and becomes self aware.
Eventually Ultron creates a hive mind of sorts for himself, meaning that he can assume control over ANY Ultron bot in his army at ANY time, which is why he is nearly impossible to destroy in this movie. He eventually gets a permanent body that is super strong and keeps himself in that one body.
>He quits the Avengers because of that guilt, right?
That's who's seat is empty in the interior jet scene in the trailer - it's after the rest of the team finds out that Tony basically caused all of this, that's why they look so upset.
>is Dr.Strange hinted at in this film at all?
Yes, in the form of quick easter eggs. PAY ATTENTION.
>Is he going to be a big player in the civil war?
No clue. I haven't done anything there yet.>>49854144
>Back to Ultron though, where does his personality come from?
He develops it after gaining sentience. He escapes from being dismantled/taken out of his current body.
>Is he literally just raging at Tony for discarding him? That seems a little pedestrian.
At first, yes. The Avengers actually easily defeat him the first time they encounter him, but his program gets put into another form and it escapes, finding Hydra and the Twins.
Here, let me break down a few of the things in the trailer that are relevant here:
>Scene where Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are in the crowd is them sent to incite Banner into Hulking out (notice they are in a city, just like where the Hulk/Hulkbuster fight takes place), this is a distraction for Ultron to break into Stark's lab and steal tech to better himself. SW [frick]s with Banner's mind using her powers and QS provides a distraction for the other Avengers present.
>Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch going to Ultron after is is obviously upgraded is directly following his upgrades. He destroys Hydra but saves the Twins, seeing them as something akin to himself - an experiment and a tool used to further the agendas of other. The ruins around them are a Hydra building.
>Banner and Hawkeye in the woods are the Avengers sent after Ultron/QS/SW/Hydra after the incident in the city, they are there AS Ultron is upgrading himself, which is why he doesn't attack them, it's Hydra attacking them (the Hydra tank in the background)
>Ultron DOES attack them though, right before destroying Hydra's base there. The rest of the Avengers come in to pull them out and see Ultron, realizing that Tony caused this. The scene in the jet (with Banner in a blanket) follows.
>How is the situation solved after Ultron is defeated? What do they do with Tony?
He helps them in the end by creating a virus to mess with the army of Ultron clones. That's the scene with the "This is the end" line. They forgive him but are VERY distrusting of him, which is why he allows the government to step in, setting up Cap 3.
>>49854281
oes thor buster? No but it is hinted at. It is one of the numerous reasons that the rest of the team starts distrusting him.
>Overall, how powerful is Ultron?
He starts off as more of a mental threat and gets utterly DESTROYED the first time he encounters the Avengers (the scene where he crushes the head of the other robot) but begins to upgrade himself and slowly take over Stark's other "Ultrons". Eventually he is able to hold his own against pretty much the entire Avengers, even Hulk (who he knocks on his *** at one point)
>Also what does Vision do?
Vision is basically JARVIS put into a real form by Tony as a way for Tony to "be with" the Avengers. He is captured by Ultron and reprogrammed to help him, but eventually he is freed by Tony's virus that [frick]s with Ultron's hold on his robot army. He doesn't turn good until the final big fight in the movie and he helps fight the Ultron army (Vision is the test run for the virus and he helps the Avengers in the final fight as Tony flies to Ultron's "base" (the scene with Iron Man standing in front of a castle/fort) to upload the virus into Ultron's mainframe that connects him to his army)
It's Ultron's AI ****ing with Tony in the last fight scene as Tony tries to upload a virus to Ultron's mainframe. Ultron plays Tony a clip of "the future he helped to birth" The screen pans up from all off the dead Avengers and we see Ultron sitting on a throne. >Now who's throwing the cars at cap? That is the real question my friend [IMG]
It's Hulk during the scene where SW ****s with Banner's mind. Black Widow is called in because Banner says something about her being able to calm him down.
>wht is hawkguy's "larger role"?
Well, he and Banner go after QS and SW after the Hulk attack, which is a major point in the story.
No, Thor actually destroys a HUGE chunk of the Ultron army in the last fight scene. Black Widow and Banner are good friends but that is it. He still feels guilt for attacking her in Avengers 1 and has been working to recognize her even when he can't control the Hulk, which is why she is called in to calm him when he freaks out.
Hawkeye and Banner are sent to track down QS and SW. Banner initially isn't allowed to go but he convinces them to let him go after Black Widow vouches for him, saying that he won't hurt anyone else.
>>It is much better and the action is more refined. It sets up a lot of things for the future movies (many in easter eggs, some as flat out references Like Black Panther)
He takes her in an frees her + QS from Hydra so the choose to follow him. Up until nearly the end when they see just how destructive Ultron is and QS actually saves Cap (you can see this in the trailer where QS destroys an Ultron bot as it is attacking Cap)
>>49854735
He is getting his new Vibranium skeleton from Wakanda
Oh the pics from WAAAY back when? That's the final battle sequence after QS and SW choose to help the Avengers. The see just how violent Ultron is and decide he is too volatile to follow anymore. Cap mentions Bucky and Widow mentions Falcon.
Tony nearly dies as he is uploading the virus. That's what Cap is doing as he kicks down the door - he and the other Avengers are looking for Tony after they defeat Ultron. He has to get surgery which is why you see the surgical stuff in the trailer
They develop more of a brother/sister relationship, not a romantic one.
>>49854998
>At least answer this -- will we ever see the REAL Mandarin?
Yes.
Alright, **** it He is shown to be a partner of Hydra, they supply the technology, he supplies the troops. He will be a major villain in future movies, namely Dr. Strange.
He is Iron Man's enemy, but his rings will be a major plot point for Dr. Strange.
>>49855176
Rhodey really doesn't have a big role in the movie, he mainly serves as the final little push for Tony to side with the government. Clint gets explained more, and his scenes are more central to the story this time around.
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^^
where'd this come from?
where'd this come from?
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i believe it's from Reddit but i don't know
Some of those rumors have been on the actual wika page for AOU for a while though...
None of it is too surprising
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After reading those spoilers. 
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
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Sounds like it could be true.
The Mandarin being a Doctor Strange villain is interesting.
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Watching trailers like this brings the kid out of me, that **** looks promising.
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what if the hulk buster comes together like megazords 
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Expecting
the image of 12 Iron man costumes combining to make the Hulkbuster
would probably be dope as **** in theaters
what if the hulk buster comes together like megazords
the image of 12 Iron man costumes combining to make the Hulkbuster would probably be dope as **** in theaters
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wait so he destroyed all his suits at the end of IM3 only to have a new one plus a huge suit for his suit in case he has to fight the hulk?
what was the point of IM3 then?
what was the point of IM3 then?
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^^^to piss us all off?
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As far as advancing the MCU story it:
--established that Tony has PTS and issues with being a hero in the mix of action which plays a part in AOU (remember the ending?)
--established that Tony can remote control his suits (huge for AOU)
--established AIM which opens new story lines moving forward http://marvel.com/universe/A.I.M.
After the initial disappointment about The Mandarin wore off, I went back and rewatched it and it isn't a bad movie at all.
I'm starting to see each movie as an episode rather than a stand alone and that gives me more appreciation for the MCU movies.
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Hopefully not. OP characters is how you get the kind of garbage DC Comics pumps out.
Garbage cop out ending considering you knew everything will be undone. One of the several reasons comic books will never be taken seriously as a storytelling medium. Marvel would be wise to stay away from **** like this in their Cinematic Universe.
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i dont think the ending is that big of a problem in therms of credibility, marvels biggest problem is never actually killing anyone
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Not yet, but movie audiences will not take kindly to ressurecting basically everyone they kill off(if they go that route which feige has hinted at with comments like "nothing is permanent in comics"). Audiences will not be as lenient with resurrecting everyone that actually dies and other **** like "retiring" Iron man just to see him suit up again the next time he is in a movie.
