Jay-Z Appreciation

 
 
sorry to say champ


but ross has had more songs that have been consistantly better than jay since 2008
Jay's been rapping longer than ross tho. Jays first album came out in 96. Ross's came out a decade later. Do you think ross is consistent enough to be around another ten years. I doubt it. Every really successful person in the music industry plateaus at some point and while they may not be dropping the best music at the time there still dropping great records. That's where jay is right now in his career. Do you guys really think jay would drop a album equivalent to the blueprint every year. lol Jay's already dropped classic albums and is a icon. Ross hasn't put out any certified classics.
i said since 2008

and rap has changed especially with the amount of i need it now people

and artists having to put out features and loose tracks every week
since 2008 ross has had a better discography than jay

LOL.  Bless your heart.  Let me help you out champ.  If you heard one Ross song.........you heard them all.  With that being said, even since 2008 Jay has had bigger and better records than Ross and more tours.  Ross is treadmill status, going nowhwere fast. 

 
prove me wrong then put up a list of all of jays songs and all of ross's and we can count who has the amount of better songs

Empire State of Mind was the #1 song in the country.  Ross has no song even close to accomplishing that.  Try again champ.
bigger records dont always equal best
ushers yeah was a MONSTER record but would u say that its the best
dont say just cause something is #1 that its the best we both know thats not always the case
plenty of artists havent had #1 hits but still doesnt take away the fact that they had a GREAT song
and man i really dont wanna get into an argument about it
yes i know ur a jay fan
and u may dislike ross
but dont try and say those ross albums i mentioned arent better than jays last ones
ross hasnt and i dont think will ever cross over
which jay has so his fan base will net you big records like that
honestly i didnt think empire state of mind was all that
i mean its a ok song but
if i had to put it up against mafia music 2
it would lose
 
mastermind
deeper than rap
teflon don
and im a say half of GFID
AND rich forever
takes a big fat dump on
mchg
watch the thrown
blueprint 3
and i will even say american gangster

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You just lost your posting privileges :smh:
i dont mean track for track just as a whole
those ross albums are better together than those jay albums
like if those were on a playlist i would skip more songs on the jay side than the ross side
 
Ross
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c'mon, people
 
American Gangster was 2007.

You should have quit while you were......not as far behind.
 
American Gangster was 2007.

You should have quit while you were......not as far behind.
i know i saw it and was well let me just throw ag in there :lol:
thats why its on the next line
but am i wrong though?????
nobody coming in with facts to say i am they just saying im wrong
 
I'll always remember prime non-lazy Jay-Z, the guy who was refreshing to hear on every track, killed every beat, and had features with people I actually wanted to hear him with. American Gangster fooled me into thinking that would be the Jay-Z from here on out. But at this point he has nothing to prove, has done everything, and is in a position where he can stop right now and still be considered one of the greatest. I'll continue to listen to most of his old stuff and a handful of recent stuff from him.
 
 bigger records dont always equal best
ushers yeah was a MONSTER record but would u say that its the best
dont say just cause something is #1 that its the best we both know thats not always the case
plenty of artists havent had #1 hits but still doesnt take away the fact that they had a GREAT song
and man i really dont wanna get into an argument about it
yes i know ur a jay fan
and u may dislike ross
but dont try and say those ross albums i mentioned arent better than jays last ones
ross hasnt and i dont think will ever cross over
which jay has so his fan base will net you big records like that
honestly i didnt think empire state of mind was all that
i mean its a ok song but
if i had to put it up against mafia music 2
it would lose
You said......."prove me wrong then put up a list of all of jays songs and all of ross's and we can count who has the amount of better songs", with the key word in that statement being "PROVE".  At the end of the champ, your entire premise was *** backwards from the get go because the word "prove" is on the parallels of finding a "fact". 

The FACT of the matter is Empire State of Mind is a bigger record than any song Ross has done, FACT.  You want somebody to PROVE something to you, but the only thing you have provided for me and the rest of the congregation is an opinion.........and a pretty bad one at that.  This is why it's so easy to debate educate (actually, I only debate people that are on my level, I educate those that are not) you and the other Rick Ross fans that so desperately need it.  What happens is, you dudes start to believe the lies and exaggeration points Rick Ross spews out and then try to bring that same nonsense here on the boards, and I'm here to tell you that's not going to happen.  Nor will I let it happen, do you understand.

Also, if I recall correctly, you're a 49ers fan so you know better to talk any bit of nonsense in my presence.  You of all people should already know how I get down as you have seen in S&T, and I'm back for more.........Team 49ers Ambassador, Prime Minister back to finish my business up
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.  Let this be the last time I have to correct you on the topic at hand champ.
 
 
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bigger records dont always equal best

ushers yeah was a MONSTER record but would u say that its the best

dont say just cause something is #1 that its the best we both know thats not always the case

plenty of artists havent had #1 hits but still doesnt take away the fact that they had a GREAT song

and man i really dont wanna get into an argument about it

yes i know ur a jay fan

and u may dislike ross

but dont try and say those ross albums i mentioned arent better than jays last ones

ross hasnt and i dont think will ever cross over

which jay has so his fan base will net you big records like that

honestly i didnt think empire state of mind was all that

i mean its a ok song but

if i had to put it up against mafia music 2

it would lose

You said......."prove me wrong then put up a list of all of jays songs and all of ross's and we can count who has the amount of better songs", with the key word in that statement being "PROVE".  At the end of the champ, your entire premise was *** backwards from the get go because the word "prove" is on the parallels of finding a "fact". 

The FACT of the matter is Empire State of Mind is a bigger record than any song Ross has done, FACT.  You want somebody to PROVE something to you, but the only thing you have provided for me and the rest of the congregation is an opinion.........and a pretty bad one at that.  This is why it's so easy to debate educate (actually, I only debate people that are on my level, I educate those that are not) you and the other Rick Ross fans that so desperately need it.  What happens is, you dudes start to believe the lies and exaggeration points Rick Ross spews out and then try to bring that same nonsense here on the boards, and I'm here to tell you that's not going to happen.  Nor will I let it happen, do you understand.

Also, if I recall correctly, you're a 49ers fan so you know better to talk any bit of nonsense in my presence.  You of all people should already know how I get down as you have seen in S&T, and I'm back for more.........Team 49ers Ambassador, Prime Minister back to finish my business up :wink: .  Let this be the last time I have to correct you on the topic at hand champ.
i wanna punch u in ur jaw CHAMP
i hate ur condescending tone in ur posts
like i never have a problem with what u type its how u type it
but i can agree to disagree with u
 
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From 2008-2014 is BP3-MCHG and I'm not going to post a list of songs of those. We know what songs those are.

But as a person who listens to both of those artists, Ross doenst have songs close to Jay-Zs. If we really want to take it there lets look at all the songs they have done togther being that they love to collaborate

I'm Hustlin Remix: WHO YOU THINK YOU TALKIN TO I'M THE __________ BOSS. Hov washed him
Maybach Music 1: Hov washed him
Free Mason: Hov
3 Kings: Hov
Devil Is a Lie: Hov
FWMYKIGI: Hov
Not to mention if we're going to count the MM2 verse that Hov laid down......

The cloest its been was MM1.
Yeah.........
 
 
 
 
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bigger records dont always equal best

ushers yeah was a MONSTER record but would u say that its the best

dont say just cause something is #1 that its the best we both know thats not always the case

plenty of artists havent had #1 hits but still doesnt take away the fact that they had a GREAT song

and man i really dont wanna get into an argument about it

yes i know ur a jay fan

and u may dislike ross

but dont try and say those ross albums i mentioned arent better than jays last ones

ross hasnt and i dont think will ever cross over

which jay has so his fan base will net you big records like that

honestly i didnt think empire state of mind was all that

i mean its a ok song but

if i had to put it up against mafia music 2

it would lose
You said......."prove me wrong then put up a list of all of jays songs and all of ross's and we can count who has the amount of better songs", with the key word in that statement being "PROVE".  At the end of the champ, your entire premise was *** backwards from the get go because the word "prove" is on the parallels of finding a "fact". 

The FACT of the matter is Empire State of Mind is a bigger record than any song Ross has done, FACT.  You want somebody to PROVE something to you, but the only thing you have provided for me and the rest of the congregation is an opinion.........and a pretty bad one at that.  This is why it's so easy to debate educate (actually, I only debate people that are on my level, I educate those that are not) you and the other Rick Ross fans that so desperately need it.  What happens is, you dudes start to believe the lies and exaggeration points Rick Ross spews out and then try to bring that same nonsense here on the boards, and I'm here to tell you that's not going to happen.  Nor will I let it happen, do you understand.

Also, if I recall correctly, you're a 49ers fan so you know better to talk any bit of nonsense in my presence.  You of all people should already know how I get down as you have seen in S&T, and I'm back for more.........Team 49ers Ambassador, Prime Minister back to finish my business up
wink.gif
.  Let this be the last time I have to correct you on the topic at hand champ.
i wanna punch u in ur jaw CHAMP
i hate ur condescending tone in ur posts
like i never have a problem with what u type its how u type it
but i can agree to disagree with u
"You can't fight me.......in the Porsche I box you out........I'll show you how to do this son!!"
 
Person who plays no instruments and can't sing is the greatest musician ever. Okay.
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So now you have to play an instrument or "sing" (really an ambiguous term) to be a true musician? Thats a narrow minded mindset if you ask me. A musician is someone who creates music, IDC what medium they use to do such.
 
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Person who plays no instruments and can't sing is the greatest musician ever. Okay.
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So now you have to play an instrument or "sing" (really an ambiguous term) to be a true musician? Thats a narrow minded mindset if you ask me. A musician is someone who creates music, IDC what medium they use to do such.

Did I say that? Hmm. No...nah....nope. Doesn't look like I said that. But to be the GREATEST one of those is important.

And you think rap music is the only good music genre and I'M narrow minded. :lol:
 
Person who plays no instruments and can't sing is the greatest musician ever. Okay.
laugh.gif
So now you have to play an instrument or "sing" (really an ambiguous term) to be a true musician? Thats a narrow minded mindset if you ask me. A musician is someone who creates music, IDC what medium they use to do such.

Did I say that? Hmm. No...nah....nope. Doesn't look like I said that. But to be the GREATEST one of those is important.


And you think rap music is the only good music genre and I'M narrow minded.
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Never said that either, I said rap is the BEST musical genre and the only one that I chose to listen to consistently.
 
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Person who plays no instruments and can't sing is the greatest musician ever. Okay.
laugh.gif
So now you have to play an instrument or "sing" (really an ambiguous term) to be a true musician? Thats a narrow minded mindset if you ask me. A musician is someone who creates music, IDC what medium they use to do such.

Did I say that? Hmm. No...nah....nope. Doesn't look like I said that. But to be the GREATEST one of those is important.


And you think rap music is the only good music genre and I'M narrow minded.
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Never said that either, I said rap is the BEST musical genre and the only one that I chose to listen to consistently.

That is the definition of narrow minded. Thus not innately negative. But you just explained that your musical mind is narrow.
 
I disagree, me experiencing a decent sample size of other genres, then deciding I dont care for them so I will choose to listen to the only one that I do care for isnt narrow minded. Narrow minded would be me dismissing them without even giving them a chance.
 
Yo yall remember that time when homie was trying to break down Jay's suit and tie verse like it was D'evils or something??? :rofl:rollin:rofl:
 
 
i wanna punch u in ur jaw CHAMP

i hate ur condescending tone in ur posts

like i never have a problem with what u type its how u type it

but i can agree to disagree with u

"You can't fight me.......in the Porsche I box you out........I'll show you how to do this son!!"
No emoji/emoticon can explain my disdain and dislike and hatred for u right now
 
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LOL. Yall trippin in here. I tried to save this thread by posting some songs, I see that didn't work.



Person who plays no instruments and can't sing is the greatest musician ever. Okay. :lol:

He outdoes himself in every thread. :smh: :lol:




 
i wanna punch u in ur jaw CHAMP

i hate ur condescending tone in ur posts

like i never have a problem with what u type its how u type it

but i can agree to disagree with u

"You can't fight me.......in the Porsche I box you out........I'll show you how to do this son!!"
No emoji/emoticon can explain my disdain and dislike and hatred for u right now

:rofl: :rofl:
 
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