Edge Of Tomorrow (2014) - Trailer - Tom Cruise,Emily Blunt

you have to die before you bleed your power out in order to be able to reset. The Omega only resets whenever an alpha is killed. Cage and company were careful not to I'll an alpha all those days they were resetting trying to figure things out. Those other things they were killing weren't alphas.
 
amel223 said:
you have to die before you bleed your power out in order to be able to reset. The Omega only resets whenever an alpha is killed. Cage and company were careful not to I'll an alpha all those days they were resetting trying to figure things out. Those other things they were killing weren't alphas.
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Didn't remember that. So, it doesn't have the ability to reset whenever it wants...outside of killing one of it's alphas? In that case...alpha in the water at the end should've offed itself.
 
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amel223 said:
 
you have to die before you bleed your power out in order to be able to reset. The Omega only resets whenever an alpha is killed. Cage and company were careful not to I'll an alpha all those days they were resetting trying to figure things out. Those other things they were killing weren't alphas.
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Didn't remember that. So, it doesn't have the ability to reset whenever it wants...outside of killing one of it's alphas? In that case...alpha in the water at the end should've offed itself.
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so the omega not have the power to reset whenever it wants, but cruise... does?
 
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Bombbiggidyphil said:
 
amel223 said:
 
you have to die before you bleed your power out in order to be able to reset. The Omega only resets whenever an alpha is killed. Cage and company were careful not to I'll an alpha all those days they were resetting trying to figure things out. Those other things they were killing weren't alphas.
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Didn't remember that. So, it doesn't have the ability to reset whenever it wants...outside of killing one of it's alphas? In that case...alpha in the water at the end should've offed itself.
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so the omega not have the power to reset whenever it wants, but cruise... does?
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Cruise has to die to reset...an alpha has to die in order for the Omega to reset. Forgot about that.



Alright, my question got me thinking...and I'm bored.

The Omega dies, Cruise dies with it and so absorbs it's power to reset. I'm assuming that when the Omega dies, it's dead...no coming back. So, Cruise resets at the end and with him (since the Omega can't come back) comes the Omega's death. Now that the Omega is dead, everything that happened after the chopper no longer happens (like bennyhinn said), which is why it resets back two days instead of one. ...makes sense....kind of.
 
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OK I understand why it reset two days (because with the Omega gone and the war over, the conversation in London about Cruise on the front lines that led to his arrest never happens)

But then if Cruise resets the day two days then wouldn't the Omega still be alive, just without the power to turn back time? The implication is that it had completely stopped controlling the mimics/operating.
 
A theory on how it works from the imdb boards:
There have been several good theories on the mechanics of the Omega's time travel and how it works. I'm posted bits of this theory in various other threads but will attempt to fully consolidate it here.

The Omega exists as a extra dimensional being that intersects with our physical universe. Where it intersects with our three dimensional space it manifests physically which allows it also to function as a repository for the collective consciousness of the mimic swarm. However, its physical manifestation also appears to render it vulnerable to organisms that exist on that physical plane. This is probably why the Omega evolved into a collective of the mimic swarm in the first place as a defensive mechanism.

The movie appears to imply that the Omega does not consciously control its ability to move within the forth dimensional plane. Instead, the death of an Alpha level mimic with trigger an involuntary reaction which causes the Omega to alter is fourth dimensional position. The reaction appears to cause the omega to reset to a position of the dead Alpha's last resting state. As the Omega is a extra-dimensional entity, once the new position is set and it once again is intersecting our physical universe it consolidates into a single space-time reference point. It is not going to physically re-manifest every time it resets forth dimensional position and re-intersects with 3 dimensional space. Instead the extra dimensional being simply re-intersects at its previous three dimensional location.

The reset is an involuntary reaction to an Alpha dieing. The Omega will key in on the last resting state of the dead Alpha to determine where to re-enter the time-stream. At that point, as the Omega also functions as the collective consciousness of the Mimic swarm, the past versions of the Alphas receives the most updated copies of their memories and experiences. This is why Cage always reset to the moment he woke up, regardless of how long he lasted before being killed. This may be because the memory sync requires resources of the brain that are otherwise utilized when the Alpha or Cage is conscious.

At the end of the film, Cage manages to mortally wound the Omega. As I mentioned, it is vulnerable to harm from physical threats that do not exist beyond three dimensional space. This mortal wound appears to trigger an involuntary reaction similar to the one triggered by the death of an Alpha. However, instead of resetting to the last resting state of Cage, the Omega resets to its own last resting state which happens to have been when Cage arrived at Heathrow via helicopter. But, the Omega is still dead, so when it re-intersects with its three dimensional self, the physical manifestation also dies. Fortunately for Cage, he is soaked in the blood of the dieing Omega, thus re-establishing his neural link to the collective. This allows his past self one final resync with the Omega's collective intelligence as it dies.
 
^that makes sense. Actually Didnt care for the ending. Thought it was too Hollywood. But 97% of the flick was so good that it didnt bother me...
 
Funny how this movie was more confusing than Inception.

Really enjoyed it, though I thought it had a few slow parts. But I loved Groundhogs Day so I was hooked off concept alone.
 
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kickstart said:
Funny how this movie was more confusing than Inception.

Really enjoyed it, though I thought it had a few slow parts. But I loved Groundhogs Day so I was hooked off concept alone.
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That is funny too. When I watched it I didn't think it was confusing. Then I told a friend about it and he was like "what's it about?", and I was like "Umm, soo, what happened was..." It took me like a minute to get it together and tell him what it was about.
 
Nako XL said:
A theory on how it works from the imdb boards:





 
There have been several good theories on the mechanics of the Omega's time travel and how it works. I'm posted bits of this theory in various other threads but will attempt to fully consolidate it here.

The Omega exists as a extra dimensional being that intersects with our physical universe. Where it intersects with our three dimensional space it manifests physically which allows it also to function as a repository for the collective consciousness of the mimic swarm. However, its physical manifestation also appears to render it vulnerable to organisms that exist on that physical plane. This is probably why the Omega evolved into a collective of the mimic swarm in the first place as a defensive mechanism.

The movie appears to imply that the Omega does not consciously control its ability to move within the forth dimensional plane. Instead, the death of an Alpha level mimic with trigger an involuntary reaction which causes the Omega to alter is fourth dimensional position. The reaction appears to cause the omega to reset to a position of the dead Alpha's last resting state. As the Omega is a extra-dimensional entity, once the new position is set and it once again is intersecting our physical universe it consolidates into a single space-time reference point. It is not going to physically re-manifest every time it resets forth dimensional position and re-intersects with 3 dimensional space. Instead the extra dimensional being simply re-intersects at its previous three dimensional location.

The reset is an involuntary reaction to an Alpha dieing. The Omega will key in on the last resting state of the dead Alpha to determine where to re-enter the time-stream. At that point, as the Omega also functions as the collective consciousness of the Mimic swarm, the past versions of the Alphas receives the most updated copies of their memories and experiences. This is why Cage always reset to the moment he woke up, regardless of how long he lasted before being killed. This may be because the memory sync requires resources of the brain that are otherwise utilized when the Alpha or Cage is conscious.

At the end of the film, Cage manages to mortally wound the Omega. As I mentioned, it is vulnerable to harm from physical threats that do not exist beyond three dimensional space. This mortal wound appears to trigger an involuntary reaction similar to the one triggered by the death of an Alpha. However, instead of resetting to the last resting state of Cage, the Omega resets to its own last resting state which happens to have been when Cage arrived at Heathrow via helicopter. But, the Omega is still dead, so when it re-intersects with its three dimensional self, the physical manifestation also dies. Fortunately for Cage, he is soaked in the blood of the dieing Omega, thus re-establishing his neural link to the collective. This allows his past self one final resync with the Omega's collective intelligence as it dies.
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Interesting...that's one way to explain the two day leap.

great flick in any case...probably catch it again when it hits the $2 theater. :smokin
 
Just saw this based off the positive reactions from this thread.

- Emily Blunt was gorgy. I had the "dat ***" face whenever they replayed her in the yoga stance.

- Tom Cruise gets a lot of flak for his antics, but his films are pretty good.

- I was a little confused by the ending (some said it was a cop-out/Hollywood ending), but maybe that's why they made the ending so abrupt.

I definitely recommend checking this out.
 
Seen this yesterday, really good movie. Sad that it got overlooked by Transformers :smh: and slept on

Also Emily Blunt is bae lol, shes not the typical good looking woman you usually see in films like Scarlett but she is pretty. Its really her attitude & personality in films that really attracts me to her tho
 
Looks like they changed the title for the Blu Ray release.

Now its Live Die Repeat. I'll still buy but I liked Edge of Tomorrow.
 
^ Don't like that name at all Edge of Tomorrow sounds so much better. I have never heard of a film changing its name before has that ever happened?


Need to check this out again btw.
 
chris82790 said:
Looks like they changed the title for the Blu Ray release.

Now its Live Die Repeat. I'll still buy but I liked Edge of Tomorrow.
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That's ******* idiotic, :lol:
 
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Just rewatched the movie...

I think the Omega lived at the end. Its blood went into Tom Cruise and it reset him to two days prior when it was still alive. When he lands in Europe it's just before the invasion (which ended up being an ambush like in the beginning of the film),. except this time Cruise won't be there to intercept the Alpha blood. The Omega took him out of the loop entirely.

Also..

how did Emily Blunt's character come to the conclusion that she lost the ability to reset? You reset upon death. How she gonna find that out without dying?
 
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If you liked it, check out Elysium. Was VERY surprised at how good it was despite the reviews.

Also if you want a decent sci-fi thriller check out The Machine on Netflix.
 
Degenerate423 said:
Does it work the other way as well?  I liked Elysium, haven't watched Edge of Tomorrow yet.
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I don't think the two are similar at all except for the mech suits. Edge of Tomorrow was much more enjoyable than Elysium (for me).
 
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