Nick Cannon goes White Face for an album...thoughts?

HerbShuttles15 said:
TheGrandPuba26 said:
ConcordFlightXI said:
Nick Cannon is winning. He married Mariah. He can wear a garbage bag and roll around in dog **** for the rest of his life and he still will have a W next to his name.
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Maybe anyone else.

But no. Not Nick Cannon. All the money in the world will never change the fact that he's a lame. 
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Being a rich/wealthy lame> broke cool guy
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Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
 
oidreez said:
Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
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I agree on the part about getting money but do you think every millionaire actor isn't lame?

Nick Cannon is lame as hell IMO but I can't front like the dude hasn't perfected his craft and target audience
 
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StillIn729 said:
oidreez said:
Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
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I agree on the part about getting money but do you think every millionaire actor isn't lame?

Nick Cannon is lame as hell IMO but I can't front like the dude hasn't perfected his craft and target audience
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I understand the comments that he's corny or whatever but the way dudes are going on and on. I'm sure people think these dudes are lame.
 
oidreez said:
Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
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1) I'm not one of "these dudes". You could admire Joseph Stallin for all I know/care.

2) So because he has money and attractive women, I can't have my opinion of him? Because he has money, I have to look up to him?
 
TheGrandPuba26 said:
oidreez said:
Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
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1) I'm not one of "these dudes". You could admire Joseph Stallin for all I know/care.
2) So because he has money and attractive women, I can't have my opinion of him? Because he has money, I have to look up to him?
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Or maybe because you dont know him?
 
StillIn729 said:
do you have to know a celebrity to make a judgment on them?

If that's the case no one should like or dislike anyone on the big screen, small screen, radio; etc.
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unless they did something that is heinous, criminal, or immoral then no. Clearly the American ppl cant differentiate not liking someones music acting certain team etc... they play for and the individuals themselves..

Ppl will be on some oh I dislike hate rap, country, a certain team... and from that take it to I hate said individual in said genre or team...  

Ie a guy plays a bad guy/criminal in a movie, and ppl take that as who they are and dislike the person in real time because of it.

Do ppl have the right to do it...yes I suppose they do. Is it stupid, moronic and simple-minded to do so...well of course it is.
 
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Lmfao his stupid alter ego is Connor small nut wtf why would he pick a name like that? It should be a common white last name like o Neil or some mick name at least makeit believable lmfao many white jimmies will be rustled
 
TheGrandPuba26 said:
oidreez said:
Exactly. I dont understand these dudes. These dudes will be the first to tell you who you should be admiring and calling you out if you even say anything negative about a rich dude getting money. This dude pulled Christina Milian and Mariah Carey, is famous, a millionaire but he's lame. Oh ok. Anything to make ourselves feel better I guess.
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1) I'm not one of "these dudes". You could admire Joseph Stallin for all I know/care.
2) So because he has money and attractive women, I can't have my opinion of him? Because he has money, I have to look up to him?
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Lol when did I say you have to look up to him? I dont even look up to him. All I'm pointing out is that the hate is thick
 
LIONBLOOD said:
Nice deflections, argument falls apart better call someone a white supremacist. Ironically I'm not the one trying to prove that it's ok for one group to stereotype.  The lengths people will go to convince themselves they aren't just as racist and ignorant as their former masters. You're no different. :lol:
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wrong. wrong.

tell me, sir, how is this harming whites? do you know the historical contexts of both black and white face?

surely you do not because you think they're comprable. i'm breaking my rule of explaining racism to non-Blacks but i have some time to kill.

Black face:

-Started at a time when Black people were considered “Less than human”
-Shows Black people have no and deserve no dignity
-Used as a “Set up” to the joke (I’s gon sing you’s perty white folks a song tu-day)
-Used to de-humanize, belittle and make fun of those that are “Less than”
-Originally done by white people for white people
-Originally done by white people in white only establishments
-Originally a degrading visual joke (Ha! Ha! Look at me, I’m one of THEM! Yuck!)
-By design, was to not only laugh at but show what ****** were REALLY like
‘-Caused (and continues to cause) pain to Black people
-Made black people into caricatures (not human, a symbol to belittle)
-Unable to count how many times done. Not just a joke, or party trick.Actually part of history.
-A sign of racism

White face:

-Done while white people are in power
-Unable to dehumanize because the power holders lose nothing (Dignity, power, ect)
-At most, shows how white people react to things like brown people being anywhere near them but also shows their big reactions to small things while simultaneously telling brown people to “Get over” HUGE things like racism.
-Has been done to show PRIVILEGE not to show that they are “Less than.” Think about the EXACT “Stereotypes” being placed on white people while actors have done white face.
-Has no historical rele*****
-If a white person’s feelings were hurt by white face, they wake up the next day and no one will judge THEM by what they saw. Black people were (and still are) BELIEVED to be these caricatures.

white ppl don't even believe this is racist or offensive, dude, never have. whites just look for any little thing a Black person does to hang their hats on.

no white person will be harmed by Nick's spoof. come on, sons :lol:
 
Tr1ll said:
That's, like, basic home training. Common sense even. How would you feel if someone you've never met before start calling you lame?

On top of that, with celebs, all you're going to see is what the media shows you.
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Stop trying to sound like the Jimmy the gold old boy who never judges anyone

People are calling him lame off of how he portrays himself in the media and television
 
Honestly I think white people hate nick cannon that's why they are making a big deal about it but when Chappelle did it, we all lol together
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
Nice deflections, argument falls apart better call someone a white supremacist. Ironically I'm not the one trying to prove that it's ok for one group to stereotype.  The lengths people will go to convince themselves they aren't just as racist and ignorant as their former masters. You're no different.
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wrong. wrong.

tell me, sir, how is this harming whites? do you know the historical contexts of both black and white face?

surely you do not because you think they're comprable. i'm breaking my rule of explaining racism to non-Blacks but i have some time to kill.

Black face:

-Started at a time when Black people were considered “Less than human”
-Shows Black people have no and deserve no dignity
-Used as a “Set up” to the joke (I’s gon sing you’s perty white folks a song tu-day)
-Used to de-humanize, belittle and make fun of those that are “Less than”
-Originally done by white people for white people
-Originally done by white people in white only establishments
-Originally a degrading visual joke (Ha! Ha! Look at me, I’m one of THEM! Yuck!)
-By design, was to not only laugh at but show what ****** were REALLY like
‘-Caused (and continues to cause) pain to Black people
-Made black people into caricatures (not human, a symbol to belittle)
-Unable to count how many times done. Not just a joke, or party trick.Actually part of history.
-A sign of racism

White face:

-Done while white people are in power
-Unable to dehumanize because the power holders lose nothing (Dignity, power, ect)
-At most, shows how white people react to things like brown people being anywhere near them but also shows their big reactions to small things while simultaneously telling brown people to “Get over” HUGE things like racism.
-Has been done to show PRIVILEGE not to show that they are “Less than.” Think about the EXACT “Stereotypes” being placed on white people while actors have done white face.
-Has no historical rele*****
-If a white person’s feelings were hurt by white face, they wake up the next day and no one will judge THEM by what they saw. Black people were (and still are) BELIEVED to be these caricatures.

white ppl don't even believe this is racist or offensive, dude, never have. whites just look for any little thing a Black person does to hang their hats on.

no white person will be harmed by Nick's spoof. come on, sons
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Let's get to chopping this fable.

1) Just because you believe something isn't  harmful, doesn't mean it isn't. Even "positive" stereotypes can be used to cause someone harm. Whether intentional or not.

2) It's good that you have a policy of not explaining racism to non-blacks. I wouldn't want someone who can't even comprehend that people of all races can experience racism explaining that **** to me.

3)Black face has a well established history of being offensive. You're right about that. But caricatures are by nature offensive, no matter who the target is. Just look at how easily I can apply some of your points on black face to white face:

White face:

-Used as a “Set up” to the joke
-Used to belittle and make fun of those that are white
-Originally done by black people for black people
-A degrading visual joke (Ha! Ha! Look at me, I’m one of THEM! I listen to rock music, can't dance and enjoy the taste of dog spit!)
-Makes white people into caricatures (not human, a symbol to belittle)
-A sign of racism

4a) "-If a white person’s feelings were hurt by white face, they wake up the next day and no one will judge THEM by what they saw. Black people were (and still are) BELIEVED to be these caricatures."

Let's say no one does judge them by what they saw; does that mean that the fact that their feelings were hurt is now irrelevant? Also, you and I both know a multitude of people that will attest that white people act exactly as characterized in movies like white girls. People believe those caricatures as well because if they weren't believable they wouldn't be good caricatures.

4b) "white ppl don't even believe this is racist or offensive, dude, never have."

You're not white. How do you know? Even if you were you can't speak for every white person.

4c) "whites just look for any little thing a Black person does to hang their hats on."

This right here is just blatant racism. If this sentence was reversed
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Oh wait I forget, there's no such thing as racism against whites. Nevermind.

4d) "no white person will be harmed by Nick's spoof. come on, sons
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See 4b

In conclusion, what you're arguing is, that when an action is done to one race, it is racism, but when done to another, it's not. That is just idiotic. You're a racist and you don't eem know it, which explains why you have such a skewed view on what does and does not qualify as racism.

@LIONBLOOD I softened him up. You wanna come and handle the rest of this light work?

Edit - To whoever repped that drivel he wrote:

You're just as bad as he is. Even worse for for encouraging him. Ignorance is bad. Promotion of ignorance is even worse.
 
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