Hip Hop Stories & Fables That Many Have Never Heard

I can't find the OG thread but it was like 30 pages. It was back in the yuku days I believe.

Or maybe even ez board
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
What's the story about Fat Joe and Terror Squad in the Rucker?
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I think joe had a team
And jay "bought" a team
Difference is joe actually had a passion for it
Jay did it just to do it
And didn't show during the championship game
Went on a vaca with B
Instead of going to the game
The doc was posted on NT a while ago I remember
 
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Haitian Jack was the most feared man in the music industry. Jack, AKA Jacques Agnant, was born in Haiti to a family of privileged politicians. They were highly educated professionals. His older siblings attended medical schools and universities in the United States. His family attended parties at ‘Baby Doc’ Duvalier’s mansion. After the coup, his family fled to Brooklyn, New York with limited funds and connections. Jack, speaking only French, was placed in a tough, local public school and forced to fight on a daily basis. He became one of the toughest street thugs in the history of Brooklyn, New York.

Jack began committing burglaries during his teen years. He specialized in drug dealers’ apartments. Jack formed a gang known as the Black Mafia. He recruited the toughest street robbers in the borough. His posse consisted of thugs such as, Tut, Nubs, Stretch, and other sociopaths, all looking to cash in on the drug economy. His crew was so feared; they could walk down the lines of New York’s hottest night clubs and take every drug dealer’s Rolex and wallet without as much as a peep. Jack began befriending such people as Mike Tyson and some local professional ball players. He used his charm to get into their pockets and when that failed, he produced a firearm. He invented the ‘friendly’ extortion game in the Black community. He is said to be the only man Mike Tyson ever feared.

In the early 1990′s, rap music could be heard on every comer of Bedford Stuyvesant, Brooklyn -a neighborhood so bad, the local residents coined the saying ‘Bed-Stuy Do or Die.’ Jack went out of his way to get to know Biggie Smalls, a young, local rap artist with a lot of promise. Tupac Shakur heard about Biggie, travelled to Brooklyn, and the two began to perform together. Tupac put Biggie on the map. Biggie introduced Jack to Tupac, a day that would forever seal Mr. Shakur’s fate. Jack felt that rap artists should pay homage to him; after all, he lived the life they exploited through song.

Jack and Tupac hit it off. Tupac loved Jack’s street creds and the feeling of power this mobster exuded through his swagger and earned reputation. He wanted what Jack had almost more than fame and fortune. Jack provided protection, women, and marijuana. Tupac picked up the tab at all the hot clubs. Jack was unofficially managing Tupac; the two were inseparable. The duo found themselves partying at clubs such as Nell’s with the likes of Madonna and other hot stars. Jack felt that his ride with Tupac would never end.

Jack whispered in a girl’s ear one evening at Nell’s. She smiled and walked over to Tupac. The two danced and later returned to his hotel suite. The following day she returned. Tupac took her to his room; they began having sex when Jack’s crew entered the room. The young woman became the victim of date rape. She left in tears. The police later arrived and arrested Jack and Tupac. The two hired the best attorneys and planned strategy for their defense. Jack’s attorney, Paul Brenner, decided to sever Jack’s case from Shakur’s. He got Jack a six-month plea deal. The Manhattan D.A.’s office wasn’t so kind to Tupac. He went to trial, was found guilty, and was due back in court for sentencing at a later date.

Tupac felt betrayed by Jack. He thought they should have gone to trial together. He knew Jack could handle prison; he wasn’t so sure about himself. Tupac stopped taking calls from Jack and his crew. Tupac began clubbing again. He returned to Nell’s and made a fatal mistake: he commented on Jack’s criminal dealings to New York Post reporter AJ. Benza. After making Page Six the following day, Jack plotted his revenge.

Puff Daddy feared Jack so much, he once handed him ten grand and his Rolex. Jacks’ crew coaxed Shakur to Quad Studios in Manhattan to lay down some tracks with Puff Daddy’s Bad Boy roster. Tupac entered the lobby with one of Jack’s crew, a kid named Stretch Walker. Jack’s boys confronted Tupac in the lobby. He resisted a beat down and was shot several times, suffering gunshot wounds to the head and groin. Shakur felt that Puffy and Biggie had set him up. He was sentenced to prison a few weeks later. Jack’s muscle within the prison system relentlessly sought Shakur out. One day, Tupac received a visit from Los Angeles gangster and owner of Death Row Records, Marion ‘Suge’ Knight. Suge convinced Tupac to sign with his label. The east coast-west coast wars were set in motion.



Years of violence between Bad Boy and Death Row left Biggie Smalls and Tupac Shakur dead. Knight’s organization had been crippled by numerous police investigations. Jack reinvented himself through The Fugees; Wyclef Jeans’ pockets were deep and Jack had both hands in them. Wyclef didn’t mind so much. Jack was a fellow Haitian and he kept all the extortion crews far away. After touring with the Fugees, Jack fell in love with Beverly Hills. He started his own management company and attached himself to artists’ publishing rights by way of fear and the gun. He broke ranks and had amassed a small fortune. Jack wasn’t happy though; he wanted more.

In 1996, Tupac was killed in Vegas and Biggie was later murdered in Los Angeles. Haitian Jack broke ranks from his crew. Nubs was murdered, and Tut went away on a Rico. The rest were bottom feeders unable to drive through the Hills without attracting attention. Jack was solo. Haitian knew he could have problems with L.A. gang members, so he established a geographical zone to stay in. He never ventured farther north of Sunset, south of Pico, east of Fairfax, orwestofthe405. It kept him away from gang bangers and the police. Jack was getting rich, but he was also getting bored.

Detective Bill Courtney was an undercover detective in the NYPD’s elite Intelligence Division. He was given his own unit and tasked with an impossible mission: taking the mob out of the music industry. Bill knew Jack’s rep from back in his Robbery Squad days. He had heard about Jack again while assigned to the DEA. Jack had robbed half the drug dealers in New York. Wire taps were abuzz about being done by the ‘Haitian One’, but no one knew where he had gone. His name was legendary, as the killer of Tupac. A little homework revealed that Jack had never earned his citizenship. As a predicate felon, Jack was deportable. Bill felt that if he found Jack, he could make him an offer he couldn’t refuse: join Team America or go back to Haiti.

One of the last times Bill heard about Jack was on the ‘Kendu’ case. Bill’s wiretap took down East New York’s biggest drug dealer, Darryl “Kendu’ Riley. A cooperator told an interesting story about Jack back when Tut was still on the streets. Jack and Tut once kicked in the door of Kendu’s top lieutenant, a gunslinger named T.T. They stole hi8 stash and threatened to kill his girlfriend if she called the police. His girlfriend Crystal foolishly called 911 as T.T. was rushing home to her aid. He beat the cops to the apartment. When the police entered, they found one of his AK-47′s under a bed. He was the victim of a robbery and now he was going to prison. Jacks’ crew later raped Crystal to keep her from testifying. T.T. wouldn’t cooperate, but a source of information on the case promised to deliver Jack.



Bill revisited the source, who was more than happy to help. The subject told him an interesting story about Jack’s exploits. One day the source was standing with a group of males in the East New York section of Brooklyn. Jack drove by, saw them and decided to stop and say hello. Jack exited his vehicle and exchanged pleasantries with the gang. The men heard muffled moaning and banging sounds coming from Jack’s trunk. Jack smiled, popped the trunk which exposed a dark skinned African male, bound and gagged with duct tape. Jack pulled the tape from the African’s mouth and said ‘***** where’s the money?’ The male cried ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about.” Jack placed the tape back over his mouth and shut the trunk. Jack smiled at the group and exclaimed ‘***** needs another hour!’ They laughed; Jack changed the subject and eventually drove off. No one knew the male or his outcome.

The source slept with half of Jack’s girlfriends, who reported on Jack’s whereabouts. He knew where Haitian dined every Friday night: the L’Ermitage Hotel in Beverly Hills. Bill made some inquiries and was referred to a sharp Los Angeles Sheriffs Department detective named Mark Gayman. Bill called Mark on and off for weeks, with no response. Mark was making calls, checking Bill out. Mark kept a tight ship on his informants and cases. Like Bill, he dreaded dealing with the F.B.I. An Orange County D.A.’s investigator cleared Bill and they started talking. Mark had learned that Jack was doing music industry scams with an L.A. mobster named Ori Spado. Ori sought Jack out to rob Colombian drugs dealers with stash houses in Beverly Hills.

Bill sent a photo out and Mark visited the L’Ermitage Hotel. The head of security knew him and confirmed that he was in fact a regular. Bill hopped on a plane with an INS warrant in hand and met with Mark at a bar on the Sunset Strip. They talked about Jack, police work, and their constant battles with the Bureau. During the briefing, Mark received a call from the L’Ermitage, Jack was at dinner a day earlier than usual. The two saddled up and visited the hotel. Mark brokered a deal with the Beverly Hills P.D. for backup and promised the hotel to wait for Jack to leave before pouncing on him. One problem… Jack dined for four or more hours at a clip.

Jack sat with a female and another couple in their high-end private dining room. Bill and Mark decided to wait in the lobby, occasionally monitoring the happy couple’s dining experience. The elevator doors opened in the lobby and actor James Woods stepped off. He saw Mark and came over to say hello. Mark had known James for some time. Mark introduced his new NYPD buddy to Mr. Woods, who proceeded to tell an interesting story he knew the New Yorker would enjoy.

James Woods was a passenger on a New York-to-Los Angeles flight when he observed males gesturing to each other with hand signals every time the flight attendants opened the cabin doors to service the flight crew. They did this repeatedly and were alarmingly open and obvious about it, at least to Mr. Woods. He petitioned the flight attendant in First Class repeatedly to secure the plane and call the authorities. She forced herself to show interest and finally told Mr. Woods that the police would meet the plane at LAX. When the plane landed at LAX, Mr. Woods was asked to remain seated and was assured that the authorities were waiting for this strange group at the gate. After the plane emptied, two F.B.I. agents boarded the plane to interview Mr. Woods. The police didn’t detain anyone. They listened to Mr. Woods’ story and took a report. Weeks later, those males became famous as the 9/11 hijackers.

James Woods went on his way, and Bill and Mark talked about the story and the Bureau once again. They took seats at the bar, ordered some drinks, and waited for the Agnant Party to finish up. Finally, Jack’s party was on the move. Bill and Mark followed them to the valet and got Beverly Hills P.D. on the ready. The cruisers stopped Jack a few blocks away with one of the longest felony vehicle stops in the history of California. Officers critiqued each other as they pulled passengers from the car. It was bizarre. One woman was the Minister of Gabon, Africa’s daughter, known to the locals as a money launderer. Finally, everyone was identified and cut loose, except for Jack of course.

At the Beverly Hills P.D. interrogation room, Bill worked on Jack for two hours. Jack agreed it would be a shame to send such a fine Haitian American back to his homeland. He agreed to join Team America. Jack was shipped off to Terminal Island on an INS hold. Bill had to move fast to get Jack paroled to him, a task that required a U.S. Attorney, I.N.S. approval, and a mountain of federal bureaucracy. Bill petitioned his favorite U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of New York, Tracy Lee Dayton. Tracy and Bill worked together, partied together, and were almost car jacked in Baltimore six months earlier. Bill gave Tracy the rundown. She flew out to L.A. and got Jack out about six weeks later.

Mark picked up Jack at Terminal Island, signed Bill’s name to the parole paperwork, and drove Jack back to Beverly Hills. Jack promised Mark he would sleep with three women that night to celebrate. Mark called Bill and put Jack on speakerphone. Jack promised to deliver good Intel, the occasional bad guy, and to be well behaved. This was a scary prospect, putting Jack out on the street. Tracy’s name was riding on it. Bill and Mark wouldn’t fare well with any mishaps either. Bill and Tracy opened an OCDETF case in New York. This provided funds for travel, informant payments, and any equipment necessary needed for the furtherance of justice. The goal was to utilize Jack to take out Organized Crime in the music industry. Bill and Mark didn’t know it, but the case would last for seven years, net huge seizures, and remove a lot of bad guys from the entertainment industry.

With a full war chest, Bill decided to head west. He and Mark hit it off and had similar styles in policing. Bill grabbed a hotel room in Beverly Hills and Mark moved into the suite for the week. They hit all the mob bars at night and dropped business cards everywhere. They put the word out that NYPD and LAPD were working together and meant business. Calls started coming in; bad guys were feeling uneasy. The boys invited Jack over for his first debriefing. Jack loved telling war stories. He spoke about how hard it was to rob a stash house. He had to convince people that he really was the police, steal their money or drugs, which were usually quite heavy, and then escape, sometimes with heavy gunfire coming from both sides. He talked about Tupac and how foolish he was. He denied any knowledge of the killing.



A month or two later, Bill received a call from a hit man-turned-informant back east. The hit man had been approached to kill rap artist 50 Cent. He gave the hit over to an associate named Ta Ta. Bill brokered a deal through Jimmy Iovine at Interscope Records to get access to 50′s camp and prevent the murder. Mark got a posse of deputies together and off they went for two night’s of rap at the House of Blues. At the end of the second night, Bill and Mark went to speak with 50 and his manger, Chris Lighty. As they were escorted to his table, they saw Jack sitting with 50 Cent, pointing his finger at the rap artist. Jack, 50, and his manager all seemed to have heart attacks as Bill and Mark approached. Jack excused himself and a serious conversation ensued.

Chris and 50 wanted nothing to do with solving the last attempt on his life. His album was number one and they knew they were on their way to untold riches. When asked about the light-skinned gentleman who had just left the table, the duo shrugged and said he was an A&R guy from the label. Bill and Mark pulled Jack in later on. Jack went on to tell them that 50 had promised him a young R&B singer named Governor. When asked why, Jack just smiled. Jack needed some more discipline; it was hard to keep Jack in check. Bill and Mark texted Jack on his Blackberry later on that night: it was the weather report in Haiti. Jack texted back, ‘Very funny, I’ll be good.’

In a few months, Bill and Mark were running strong. Mark was pulling in some great cases: hits on music industry executives, pump-and-dump scams, extortion of a variety of artists, and other mayhem. Bill stayed around to help whenever he could. One day, Mark received a call from a solid informant, who reported that a mobster named Ori Spado had a big marijuana connection through a guy named Haitian Jack. Ori was Mark’s initial reason for looking into Haitian Jack. The two were orchestrating the transportation of marijuana from Canada to Syracuse, New York. Once the pot hit the private airport, Pagan MC Members from Long Island would transport the contraband down to New York City. A meet was scheduled the next day in a midtown hotel.

Bill got his crew together and established surveillance at the hotel. Mark had limited contact with the informant. Mark called to tell Bill the meeting was ending; the crew was leaving the hotel with the buyers. Bill saw Ori and his crew leave with two Palestinian males. Bill’s team followed the Palestinians. A license plate check revealed that the occupants were the famous Ayesh brothers from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. The Ayesh brothers were known to the F.B.I as marijuana and methamphetamine dealers.



They laundered their money home through funds established for Palestinian relief that were nothing more than fronts for Hamas and the P.L.O. Bill called the Joint Terrorism Task Force and flipped them the case. They were quite happy to finally have the Ayesh clan. They established surveillance and months later took down the Pagans and Palestinian connection. Jack was becoming a serious liability.

Bill received a call from investigators at ~he Bureau of Prisons. Members of their Intelligence Division intercepted prison calls from Five-Percent Nation leader Kenneth ‘Supreme’ McGriff. Supreme had instructed his top lieutenant to ‘check out’ Detective Courtney. A week later when Bill was exiting a plane in Richmond, Virginia, he checked his voicemail and received a chilling message: the sound of a semi-automatic pistol being racked back and fired. Bill’s home in New York was placed under surveillance, complete with Kevlar curtains and panic buttons throughout the house.

Bill decided to get Jack on it. When Jack took the call, he became enraged. He told Bill that he knew who the guys were and would take care of them. Bill told Jack the connection was bad and instructed him to call back from a payphone. Jack called back an hour later. Bill ripped into him. Bill told Jack that his phone could be tapped at any moment and really wasn’t particularly happy about getting involved in a murder conspiracy with him. Jack apologized and told him that he would make inquiries just like the police, only with faster results. Bill called Mark and talked. Haitian was great for getting bad guys numbers, locating fugitives, and having the inside info on all the scams in the music industry, but he was becoming a nuisance. Mark decided to follow him around.

Jack called Bill often to complain. He became Jack’s father confessor. Jack complained that Lyor Cohen and Dr. Dre had produced Governor’s album and were demanding a million dollars for the production. They wouldn’t wait for album sales to pay the tab. Jack wanted to know how to make them comply without, you know, hurting them. Lyor and Dre had off-duty law enforcement as security; getting to them was impossible. Jack also complained about suing Tupac’s estate for damages. Tupac alleges that Jack was a rat in the song ‘Against All Odds’. It wasn’t true. The case was thrown out of federal court. Bill told Jack if he won, Bill would give him up. He wasn’t the least bit amused.

For a month, Mark followed Jack all over the Hills and documented every step. He knew Jack would mess up sooner or later, but wanted to show he and Bill had tried to keep him in check. Mark pulled Jack over one day and told him Bill wanted to jam up some guys from 50′s Posse. Jack threw a party at a restaurant in the Hills called Crustacean. He invited 50′s crew and a lot of famous artists. Mark wired Bill up and sent him in the restaurant. The goal was to get 50′s guys on tape, talking about a feud they had back east. Jack introduced him to Aretha Franklin and placed him at her table. Stevie Wonder later joined the fray. It was bizarre. Bill decided to have smoke.



Out on the smoking deck, several local gangsters had spied Bill talking to Jack. They took him for a gangster. An Armenian male approached Bill and asked him what he did. Bill told him he ran a warehouse back in Brooklyn. The male smiled and told him he could put some ladies in the warehouse. Bills’ wire was transmitting to a surveillance truck a few blocks away. Bills’ phone started to ring off the hook. Bill saw Mark trying to ring in, but tried to ignore it; he was in the middle of a drug deal after all. Finally, Bill gave in and excused himself to call Mark. Before Bill could speak, Mark told him that the male talking to him was one of his operatives. Get away and we’ll set him straight later on. 50′s guys never showed. Bill decided to hang with Stevie and Aretha for the rest of the evening.

Bill and Mark had run nonstop for a year, grabbing fugitives, handling mob cases, and terrorizing the local Mafia community. Jack went missing and didn’t answer his phone. Bill received a call from a trusted informant: Calls to Miami P.D. revealed numerous shootings, but no deaths or reports to confirm the tip. Things were getting out of control. Tracy Dayton’s husband had cancer and was dying; Bill didn’t have the heart or nerve to give her an update.

One Sunday afternoon, Bill was back east sitting in his office, a secret offsite location in the old Nabisco Cookie Factory in Chelsea. Mark told Bill to sit down. It seemed that Jack and female rap artist M.C. Lyte were in a West Hollywood club when some Black Mafia Family members disrespected Jack. Jack calmly left the club with the rapper and returned a few minutes later. Jack was laughing hysterically, yelling ‘where you guys at?’ He found his target and chased him under some tables in the club, calmly shooting the male in the legs and smiling quite proudly. He calmly exited the club. One of Mark’s informants was in the club and decided to make the call.

Bill hung up the phone and called the airlines. Bill left a message for Jack: ‘I finally have your S Visa and you’re officially a U.S. citizen.’ Jack called Bill back hours later. With a lump in his throat, he told Bill how much he loved him and what a straight up guy he was. He told Bill that he had some problems, but ”we’ll talk when you get here”. Bill arranged for Jack to meet him at the Hyatt House on the Sunset Strip. Jack came inside and ventured up to the upstairs lobby and gave Bill a hug. Bill introduced Jack to U.S. Marshal Tony Burke and had a chat. Bill told Jack to stand up and the West Hollywood detective squad rushed out of a nearby conference room and jumped him. He looked up from the ground and calmly said, ‘You lied to me, Bill.’



Bill took Jack’s keys and sent a West Hollywood detective to get a search warrant for Jack’s apartment. Hours later they were inside. It was the most tastefully decorated apartment Bill had ever seen and Bill knew some well-to-do people. The gun was found rather quickly. There was also a large safe in the apartment. Bill called a locksmith. The locksmith called the safe company with his credentials. They received the original safe code; Jack had never changed it and the safe popped right open. Inside, they found a large amount of crisp, new U.S. currency and a cache of photos. Amongst the pictures were racy photos of Madonna with another woman, a photo of Jack and Tupac giving the finger, and a photo of Jack and President Clinton.

Bill fought his way out of the apartment with the photos, promising the search team copies. Bill visited Jack in the lockup. Jack told Bill he was foolish to recover the gun; after all, his victim had been paid off and Bill really could have used him. Jack explained the photos recovered from his apartment. Haitian used to sleep with a Beverly Hills socialite. She raised money for the Foster Care program. Jack delivered top name artists to her fundraising galas. Jack raised more money than anyone in the history of Foster Care fundraising. They made Jack Man of the Year, a title he shared with President Clinton. The two shared a photo at an event honoring their efforts. If the Secret Service only knew…..

Jack talked about the old days and how lucky he was. He told Bill that he would come through, but Bill knew that Jack had played everyone all along. Jack took a plea and was deported to Haiti a year later. Mark and Bill still get calls about Jack… he returns once in a while to visit, but knows staying is a mandatory five-year sentence if caught. Last Bill and Mark heard, Jack was managing Shaquille O’Neal. Apparently Shaq had some problems in Miami that Jack took care of.

Jack now resides legally in the Dominican Republic. He is supported by Wyc1ef Jean, and whatever riches he has stashed over the years. He was truly the greatest gangster ever to manipulate the music industry. He was charming, funny, and charismatic. He was also a killer. If his mother had filled out his Visa application properly, he would still be driving around in his little piece of Los Angeles.
 
If I'm thinking of the right thread, this is the list of facts.

Lot of interesting stuff. But also a couple questionable things...


Only a few MCs wrote their own rhymes in NWA.

Masta Killa punched a reporter for making fun of Wu.

Redman and Dead Prez graduated from college.

Before GZA, ODB had the name "Genius." This was way before GZA's 91 debut.

Members of Onyx were barbers before they became rappers.

RZA was charged with before 36 Chambers. He was released from lack of evidence

RZA came up with his alter ego, Bobby Digital, from doing too much pcp. He said he felt like there was 2 of him inside. That must have him up.

De La Soul were ed at people calling them Hip Hop Hippies, so they went and released the album De La Soul Is Dead. Heard this on VH1.

The 9th member of the Wu was going to be picked from Masta Killa and Killah Priest. Masta Killa wrote rhymes all night, but Priest fell asleep too early. The next morning, he was awakened by Masta's Da Mystery of Chessboxin' verse.

50 Cent made his first official appearance in hip hop as a guest in Onyx's Shut em Down album. He was featured on the song "React."

Cappadonna taught Deck how to rap.

U-God's 3 year old son was shot while playing on the balcony of their house.

U-God talks about his son's death in the Forever LP.

Biggie isn't from NY. His mom didn't move to the BK til he was 8. He was bron in like the West Indies or Jamiaca, cant exactly remember

Nelly and Ciara were born in Austin


Usher was born in Dallas


Ludacris was born in Champaign, Illinois


There was a Hip Hop album with the title "The Black Album" which was made by Producer No ID

Young Buck of G-Unit has a album out already....b4 UTP he made a album with some kid named D-Tay...this was like 2000.

Pharoahe Monch used to be real fat, he also has Asthma

Nas wrote NY State Of Mind when he was 17

Suge was the DOC and Bobby Brown's bodyguard. He got the ends and outs of the music buisness from DOC

Yeah Ashanti is in the "MC's Act Like They Don't Know" video

at one point, every single rap label warned their artists: "never publicly mention the Wu tang"

Ghostface beat up Mase causing him to have his jaw wired.

Jayz and Busta Rhymes attended the same high school and once battled in a hallway

jemain dupri was the youngest producer ever to go platinum

eazy e had dinner with george bush

snoop dogg went to school with camron diaz

Esham, a pioneer in horrorcore rap in detroit, wrote some of the most vicious diss tracks to eminem....response was Bizzare sending Esham to the hospital with a ruptured eyeball, a mild concussion and loss of hearin in his left ear...

We all know The Notorious B.I.G. was killed in Los Angeles on March 9, 1997. But, ironically, Biggie shouldn't have been in L.A. that weekend. Big, who'd been in L.A. since early February '97 promoting his 'Life After Death' album, was supposed to hop a flight to London on Friday, March 7, 1997, to continue his promotional junket. Biggie canceled his flight, and chose to remain in L.A. that weekend. He enjoyed the sunshine too much, and didn't want to leave it behind to go to an overcast London. Plus, he disliked European food. It may seem trite, but it's true. If Biggie had gotten on that flight on March 7th, he might still be with us.

mase had a million dollar contract (I think he was the first rapper, to get that).

Kool Keith & DMX used to collects bugs.

Dmx used to stand for "Divine Master of the unknown" (he should had kept that meaning)

Krazyzie Bone is a Jehovah Witness

Dre didnt like Snoop's raps, when he first heard them.

Just blaze got into producing, mostly to buy videogames.

Neptunes got some influence from old atari's music/sfx.

LL cool j wanted to do a song with odb. But when odb got to the studio. He rip off one of LL's plaque & ed on it. Which made LL mad & got sercuity on him.

mc hammer dissed redman in one of his song.

dmx first thought Biggie was soft. Since, he saw Big did somethin real stupid in the studio

Bad !$% was Snoop's ghostwriter.

Jay Z ghostwritten Dre's verse on "Forgot About Dre"

Ras Kass use to battle Snoop in High School

Ras Kass's baby mother is recording artist Teedra Moses who he helped get a deal

Lil Kim was at one time pregnant by BIG but had a miscarriage. She also use to transport drugs on the bus system for him.

Da Brat was the first female Hip Hop artist to go platinum

Eminem once battled Juice in the Rap Olympics and lost to him coming in 2nd and saying it was rigged/favortism. Juice was the reason Em was at the Rap Olympics through invitation.

Immortal Technique battled Poster Boy on 106 and Park and lost. Immortal Technique who use to battle in all of the underground battle circuits also battled Slug from Atmosphere and a few other well known underground battle mcs.

After Chino XL recorded the track 3 to the Dome for Sway and Tech with him, Kool G Rap and Kane, Kool G threw away his rhymes and Chino went into the trash and took the crumpled out rhyme out and kept it because he was such a big fan of Kool G.

Eminem was supposed to be signed to Duck Down BEFORE signing with Dre and Aftermath, but Dru Ha decided not to sign him (the rumor is because he did not want to chance singing a white artist).

Ghostface use to wear a mask earlier in the Wu's career because he was really on the run from the police and took off the mask once his name got cleared.

The original version of Interview with A Vampire written by Ras Kass was about a 12 minute song and was chopped down to the 7 minute song recorded on Rasasssination.

There is a long list of rappers who are not from or even raised in the areas they claim as rap artists.....to name some from what I know:

Prodigy is not from QB originally
Xzibit is not from L.A., he moved there to pursue a career from N. Mexico
Mailk from Illegal (appeared on Pump Pump on Snoop's Doggystlye) was from S.C. but claimed L.A.
UGK is not from Houston, they are from Port Arthur Texas
DOC as already said was from Dallas
Canibus is not from Jersey like he originally claimed, but has lived in various places from Canada to Atlanta because of his family moving around.
Royce Da 59 is not from Detroit, but from a nice suburb a good ways outside of Detroit
Eminem is actually from Warren Michigan, not from Detroit
DJ Premier is not from NY, he is from Dallas Texas


Ice T use to be a REAL street pimp and hustler at one time before becoming a rapper.

MC Hammer had to be restrained by Russell Simmons because he was going to attempt to beat down MC Serch after giving him the Gas Face on the song Gas Face.

Q-Tip and Janet Jackson have had a love interest in a long time, but remain friends. That is why Q-tip got the part as her slain boyfriend in Poetic Justice.

In Poetic Justice...2pac was supposed to have an extensice sex scene with Janet Jackson, but it was not shot when Pac refused to get an HIV test

Puffy directed Outkast's Player's Ball and Southernplayalistica dillacmuzik videos

Nore did time for when he was a juvenile.

Bizzie Bone and his siblings were molested repeatedly by their stepfather, and were kidnapped by him when their mother left him, which he says sparked his wild drug habit. Bizzie Bone also claims to have never tried eX, and claims that he was pressured into doing a verse on "Ectasy".


A large number of Actors who play gangsters in movies are from nice neighborhoods with little or no street knowledge

David Banner has a Master's Degree

Nelly was scouted by the St. Louis Cardinals when he was in High School

Mase taught Jim Jones how to rap

The Neptunes produced the song "Rumpshaker" and Pharrell wrote Teddy
Riley's verse

Missy was an admitted %$@ in high school. Blamed it on being molested when she was younger

Scarface has a tatoo of somebody blowing their brains out on his forearm

Trick Daddy has like 20 sibling between his parents

Andre' 3000 drew the cover for Outkast's Aquemini album

Will Smith was accepted to MIT but decided to rap instead

Russell Simmons used to sell weed

Rick Rubin came up with the name DefJam and the logo

Jay-Z wrote Memphis Bleek's verse on that song from Reasonable Doubt and told Bleek he could use it only if he could memorize it and recite back to him in 24 hrs.

2Pac wanted to act before he ever considered rapping

Rakim's brother made some of Rakim's beats.

BIG lost his original record deal because Patti La Belle was offended by "Dreams of ing an R&B ".

When Puff started BB, he remembered BIG and the rest is history.....

Timbaland & Pharrell made a group when they were in High School

Flesh-N-Bone was the one who bought the bus ticjets for the rest of Bone to go to LA

Bone was homeless when they got to La

Krayzie auditioned over the phone first for Eazy-E, then in person in cleveland when Eazy did a show there..

Eazy-E told Bone not to get involved between the Dr.Dre & Eazy-E beef.....

Krayzie shot Wish Bone in the back of the leg with a shotgun when they ere yung(listen to I Remember frum Gemini:Good Vs. Evil)

Pac didnt wear a vest the night he got shot...and he ALWAYS wore a vest

Jay-z shot his brother for stealing money from him

Biggie isn't from NY. His mom didn't move to the BK til he was 8. He was bron in like the West Indies or Jamiaca, cant exactly remember

Lil Wayne shot himslef 2 times

"Let's Get It" with Pdiddy and Black rob was supposed to be G-Deps first single but made it in too a trio single for the PDIddy album

all most every crunk artist produced for So So Def during the Bass perion

JD is rich as hell for ghostwriting most of Usher's cds

Big Boi is from Savannah

David Banner graduated from Southern University, laude, and was prez of SGA

that other guy from youngbloods(not sean paul) and andre 3000 are cousins

T.I. ghostwrote for bow wow (no wonder bow wow fell off)

young buck has rapped with cash money and three six mafia

Common attened FAMU

rakim wrote some verses for 'paid in full' three years before the album came out ... that wouldve meant he wrote that around the ages of 14/15 ...damn

Prodigy and Havoc both attend the same high school before they got a record deal.

Vinnie of Naughty By Nature is ifrst cousins with Mike Tyson

Dame Dash played a swordsman named Carlos in Highlander: Endgam

Snoop named "The Chronic". Dre didn't start smoking weed until he met Snoop, contrary to popular belief, he wasn't lying when he said "I don't smoke weed or cess", because at the time he didn't.


keith murray and prodigy had a physical altercation about 5 years ago.

baron davis and the game grew up together.

nas dropped out of school in the 7th grade.

The Fugees used to open up for Nas before either of them really blew up... (right after Illmatic)

You know that Biggie and Nas were hyped in 94 as the saviors of NY. Well supposedly they were on some tour and Nas began freestyling while they were drunk or something. Biggie fell asleep and then woke up and Nas was still going!

After recording Ready To Die Big learned to keep his lines in his head without writing them. This was a technique he taught Jay while Jay was doing Reasonable Doubt, then Jay eventually taught Ja Rule. None of them actually write lyrics.

When Big was doing "Notorious Thugs" he wanted to practice his Bone Thugs-*%# flow without being embarassed so he sent everyone out of the room while he practiced by himself...

Big wrote all the lyrics for Junior Mafia's Consipracy minus a couple Lil Kim verses....

Nas, Jay and Mad Skillz were known in the early-to-mid-90s as the industries biggest ghostwriters....

Mos Def was originally on BET's Teen Summit

50 Cent wrote most of Blaque's first album

That Order Of Protection against Inc from 50 does exist but it wasn't 50 who asked for it, it was court mandated. Supposedly they didn't even have to tell 50 they had made it, so he truly may have never known.

Ron Artest grew up in the same Queensbridge housing projects that Nas, MC Shan, Havoc, and others did. If you look for him you can see him in various QB-related artists' videos.

After Nature's "Nas Is Not" single began circulating, Nature was reportedly beat down by Nas' brother Jungle and his friends...

Supposedly Jungle and Lake also got Prodigy his chain back after he had been robbed...

Also supposedly, Fat Joe and Big Pun had developed a rivalry with Jay Z way back in 98. They supposedly got into it at a club and Pun smashed a bottle of champagne or some wine over Jay's head...

The Neptunes used to ghostproduce for Teddy Riley, they produced SWV's "Right Here" with Pharrell singing backup vocals

Timbaland used to ghostproduce sorta - sometimes hed get credit, sometimes he didnt - for DeVante Swing of Jodeci....

Timbaland and Ginuwine used to be in a group on Devante's label called Da Bassment, if you look for the Nutty Professor Soundtrack they have a cover of Ready for the World's "Love You Down"

Missy was in another group on Devante's label called Sista, they had a song on the Dangerous Minds Soundtrack....

Lil Wayne Shot Himself When He Was 9

Game Was On The Dating Gameshow Change Of Heart And His Girl Had A Change Of Heart

jay and mase had a little beef Supposedly it was a misunderstanding.
mase got at them on his opening track on harlem world.
jay got at him on "imaginary player" vol. 1.

Angie Stone was Signed to Sugar Hill records as a rapper


.Nas was suppose to be on "CAN I LIVE PT 1" by Jay-z....Nas didnt show up at last minute and Reasonable Doubt had was deadlined for the Next day....So Jayz had to hurry up and WRITE the 2nd Verse of it in 20 minutes and record it by himslef....Alot of people say this was the begining of a long standing fued

Style's P Attacked Puffy with Chair...(Security saved his $!+)

Beanie Sigel knocked out Gillie the Kid on South street in front of Whole Cash Money crew when the NBA all star game was there

NAS wrote "MIAMI" for Will Smith

2Pac was ready to sign Big Daddy Kane to his label Makaveli Records.

2Pac took ballet.

AZ was in one of Jay-Z's videos.

Tigger from Rap Citys the basement as well as Mystikal where cheerleaders in highschool

the game is in gta san andreas

Cash Money Records was started from dope money back in 92'

It is rumored that Baby had Cash Money Artist Yella Boy killed after he pistol wiped Baby.

Mannie Fresh been DJing since 1987, him, Mia X, and KLC and a crew called NYC Inc.

Lil Wayne was signed to CMR at the age of 10, and him and BG(than called Lil Doogie) was in a group called the B.G.'z. Than he shot accidently himself than his daddy died so he layed off the mic for a minute.

BG been using heroin since the age of 15.

Juvenile wasnt signed to CMR until 97. Actually, BG was supposed to be the first artist to drop from CMR when they went national, but BG went to jail so the dropped Juvenile first.

Baby owns a portion of the Magnolia projects, he lets everyone there live rent free. True Story! Most of the project has been torn down.

Hot Boy's first album "Get it How U Live" sold 300K locally.

Lil Wayne ghostwrote for Bow Wow before.

Master P fucced alot of artist by giving the m one album contracts with no royalties. Just one small lump sum at the contract signing.

Juvenile is actually in is mid 30's.

Baby is the legal gaurdian of Lil Wayne
Kim had her $!+ whopped by Faith over B.I.G

Mary J Blige was a cokehead

Jay-Z was in Kanes' old videos

Roxanne Shante got pregnant when she was 15 years old

LOX debuted on Main Source 2nd album

Suposedly Lauryn Hill became a recluse the last 3 years or so and became apart of a strange cult with beliefs in Religious mysticism. Repordetly the cult has been draining her money and time. She suposedly has recently snapped out of it and is ready to work on the new fugees joint.

R. Kelly worked the drive through at Mc Donalds for an hour in St. Louis at a stop during the best of both worlds tour.

Kanye spent a million of his own money to make the final version of the Jesus Walks video

T.I. has 2 kids with Xscape singer Tiny

Juicy J and Project pat are brothers. And thier father is a minister.

Will smith hid in a closet when suge night and his blood friends stormed a studio in cali.

T.I. says urban legend was a paperless album. implying he keeps his raps in his head like jay or freestyles. (it seems everyone is tryin to do this now...)

Master P entered the NBA draft and for a brief stint played for the denver nugggets.
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2pac used to call weed candy.

Daz and warren G went uncredited for a lot of co production on "Tha Chronic"
Treach did a prono

ODB got gonorreha (sp?) twice from the same woman.


At the time he died, Big L was in negotiations with Jay-Z to do a solo joint for Rocafella. I've heard this a couple of times.

I also heard that Big L's was a case of mistaken identity. The shooter(s?) thought he was his cousin or some [censored].

Roxanne Shante legally jacked her label for over $100,000 for education, and has done well with her life (even though she ain't released [censored] for years).



Method Man was dusted during the recording of the Mary J. Blige "All I Need" video. (That explains some of his facial features in the video)

In the months before he died, Big Pun had gotten so heavy that he had to be driven to and from the stage in a golf cart. Performing was said to be real hard & tiring for him. He was something like 700 pounds at the time of his death.

Pun used to play maaad pranks on his crew. One I can remember was him taking someone's cell phone, and putting it under his belly fold for a couple of minutes, than putting it back. Dude picked it up to use it, and it stank like Pun's bellyfold sweat

John Forte was busted for drug trafficking, and was caught with something like 30 pounds of yay.


Method Man loves golf! (Heads who seen the tape know what I'm talking about)

Willie D of the group Getto Boys moved his entire family to Baku, Azerbaijan, a middle east country on the border of Iran.

Bizzy Bone is quite the ladies man About 5 or six years ago Bizzy Bone got down on one knee and proposed to Halle Berry. He gave Toni Braxton the diamond ring off his finger. Him and Beyonce once had something going pre-j**** days.

Record Labels that are rumored to be "cursed":
The Bad Boy Curse: The Lox once seen as a sure thing first album flopped and they never really reached any great commercial succes. B.I.G was ed. Black Rob arrested several times...labled a one hit wonder. Loon left the label. 112 left the label. New Edition left the label. Faith got caught with cocaine...left the label. Da Band broke up with only dropping a single album......Ness and Babs have yet to drop an album. Shyne is in Jail. and the list goes on.........

No Limit Curse: Master P filed bankruptcy. Soulja Slim was ed. Mystikal in jail for rape. C- in jail for ummmm . Mac in jail for . Kane and Abel served 4 years for running drugs. Mia X is M.I.A. Mercedes strips now.....the list goes on....

The first person to give Nas his start at solo stardom was M.C Serch one third of the white rap group 3rd bass.

The New York Post a respected newspaper ran the offensive and disrespectfull headline about ODB's death "Dead Dirty "

When Skillz first album dropped he was still valet parking at a famous restraunt in Virginia

ODB had 7 kids not 13 as at first widely publicized

Once Ghostface Killah was a guest at the "Rap City" TV programm. Cappadonna joined him later, coming with a briefcase in his hands. T**** asked Ghost about the contents of that briefcase but Ghost didn't say a word. Then T**** started smiling and , so Ghost asked him smth like: "Do I look funny or what? I'm not joking, so stop ing smiling at me".

Back in the days when 50 wasn't popular, he got dismissed from a club for dissing Ghostface Killah !

Ol' Dirty 's album "N***a Please" was originally planned to be named «Dirty World» or «Revolution: The Black Man Is God».

RZA didn't like that Jay-Z called himself J**** - because it sounds similar to GZA.

Method Man once said that he likes working with Redman more than with the WU.
(It was on MTV)

RZA once said that if he wasn't in hip-hop business, he would like to be a scientist.

GZA is not a 5%-er anymore.

I've heard that Ghostface Killah has some kind of diabetes so he doesn't drink any alcohol.

Method Man was one of the most favourite rapper of Notorious B.I.G.

While reading a magazine, Method Man found out that a video game "Wu-Tang Shaolin Style" came out for Sony Playstation. He got mad at the rest of the Clan for not telling him about that. Later he stated that this game was not that good, mainly because of the characters' movements.


- Guru from rap duo Gang Starr appeared as "8-Ball" in popular game Grand Theft Auto 3.

- MF Doom was actually born in London England.

- Sticky Fingaz from rap group Onyx, has appeared numerous times on hit cable channel 'FX' show "The Shield", as a rapper/producer/drug dealer named "Kearn".

- Canibus was a former US Marine, but he was discharged after being caught smoking marijuana.

- Canibus first started gaining notice through battling Wu-Tang Clan members in the car park of a Miami night club. Sources claim he outshined them all too. He was also torn apart by Wu-Tang member Killah Priest in a devastating 6 minute freestyle. The 2 later went on to form the group "4 Horsemen" with Kurupt and Ras Kass.

- Underground rapper C-Rayz Walz has beaten such freestyle legends as Immortal Technique & Jin in freestyle tournaments. He also has appeared as a support act to the Wu-Tang Clan at a few of their concerts.

- Suge Knight had a brief football career, playing with the Los Angeles Rams. He was also a stand out High School & College player.

- Xzibit has appeared in an episode of CSI: Miami.

- Kanye West recorded the song "Through The Wire" with his jaw wired shut after he was involved in a car accident which nearly claimed his life. He suffered a severe broken jaw after his face hit the steering wheel, which resulted in his jaw having to be wired shut to help bring it back into place.

- Mos Def is close friends with comedian Dave Chappelle. He has appeared in numerous episodes of Dave's hit show "Chappelles Show", both as an actor and a musical guest.

- Mos Def has appeared in such movies as Monsters Ball and Showtime.

- Nas went through a stage in his career where he went by the name "Nas Escobar", after infamous Columbian drug lord Pablo Escobar.

- Group "The Firm", consisted of members Nas Escobar, AZ, Foxy Brown and Nature. Cormega, one of Nas' closest friends was supposed to be in the group, but record execs told Nas to put Nature in the group instead, which sparked the whole Nas/Cormega beef.

- Cormega witnessed his mothers killing while he was still young.

- Nas' song "One Love" is dedicated towards former best friend Cormega who was in jail at the time.

- Tupac Shakur shot 2 off duty police officers after they allegedly were beating a black male who had done nothing wrong. The charges against him were dropped.

- Big Punishers Terror Squad charm cost over $250,000 to be made up. His wife has recently sold the charm on eBay.

- Big Punishers widow/family does not receive any royalties for Pun's music.

- NBA star Shaquille O'Neal has released 5 rap albums and is involved in a bitter feud with rapper Skillz.

- The original Terror Squad group consisted of Fat Joe, Big Punisher, Cuban Link, Tony Sunshine, Armageddon, Prospect and Triple Seis.

- Strong Arm Steady member Krondon has a condition which causes his body to have no colour definition, otherwise known as an Albino, so he is infact a black male with white skin.

- Big L's first release "Devils Son" was banned from radio, as he rapped about being the son of Satan and pistol whipping a church priest.

- Cam'rons cousin and fellow Children Of The Corn member Bloodshed was killed in a car crash which along with the death of Big L, contributed to the demise of the group.

- Grym Reaper (aka Poetic) of rap group The Graved****z passed away due to colon cancer.

- Notorious B.I.G. rapped about living in a "one room shack" in his hit song "Juicy", but according to his mother, Biggies family lived in a decent sized apartment and Biggie infact attended private school.

- Female rap artist Remy Martin got her name from the alcoholic drink of the same name, although she admits she can't stomach the drink.

- Female rap artist Charlie Baltimore got her name from the 1996 movie "The Long Kiss Goodnight", in which actress Gina Davis plays Charlie Baltimore, a female hit man who was shot in the head causing amnesia, who starts to remember things from her past and seeks revenge on a past nemesis.

- Rapper Scarface (formerly of Southern group the "Geto Boyz") got his name from the 1984 movie "Scarface", which starred actor Al Pacino as a South American refugee called Tony Montana, who's rise to power as a drug lord, later led to his demise.

- Bushwick Bill formerly of the "Geto Boyz" was shot in the head by his ex-wife, which resulted in him losing one of his eyes.

- 50 Cent got his rap name from the NY drug kingpin of the same name.

- The Game got his name from his grandmother, as he is a talented basketball player and his grandmother used to refer to him as "The Game" after having watch him play.

- No Limit Records CEO Master P, had a brief role in the movie "Gone In 60 Seconds", in which he played a gang leader who was out to get Nicholas Cage's character in the movie.

- Marion "Suge" Knights nickname, stems from "Sugar Bear", in which he was often reffered as from his employees/companions.

- Jay-Z attended the same Brooklyn high school as Notorious B.I.G. and Busta Rhymes.

- Dr. Dre's real name is Andre Young.

- Andre 3000's real name is Andre Benjamin.

- 50 Cents real name is Curtis Jackson.

- Snoop Dogg's real name is Calvin Broadus.

- The Game's real name is Jayceon Taylor.

- Jay-Z's real name is Shawn Carter.
- Nas' real name is Nasir Jones.

- Big L's real name was Lamont Coleman.

- Big Punishers real name was Christopher Lee Rios.

- Notorious B.I.G's real name was Christopher Wallace

- Tupac Shakur's real name was Lesane Parish Crooks.

- Eazy E's real name was Eric Wright.

Some of these may not be actual facts ie Biggie was born in Brooklyn
 
Onyx wasn't always a "hardcore" rap group. Their first song had a jungle brothers feel to it. They got to def jam (I believe that's their label) and the head wasn't feeling them and made them recreate their style. That's how they became the way they are most known for

 
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:lol: :rofl: at Cappadonna teaching Deck how to rap better than he does

I remember that RZA/PCP thing. Based on that album, there's no doubt in my mind he was on PCP :lol:

Pretty common knowledge about Royce Da 5'9" and Skillz ghost-writing. They should both have a very nice chunk of change as they have been writing for other people since around the mid-90's. Diddy and Dr. Dre are the two most notable ones they've done it for. Usually if someone ghostwrites for you, that artist at least attempts to cover it with their own personality, but anytime someone writes for them, they rap it exactly as them (see: "It Has Been Said" where Eminem/Obie Trice obviously wrote for Diddy, and Rick Ross obviously writing a bunch of Diddy songs since 2010, and Ross & T.I. writing Dr. Dre's verses on "3 Kings" and "Popped Off")
 
Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff orchestrated the hit on 50 Cent where he got shot nine times because 50 was allegedly dry snitching on McGriff's workers in some of his underground stories.  McGriff is known to have ties with and had funded the label Murder Inc.

He's also the reason behind the "Take the bite out of crime" Crime Dog McGruff commercials in the 80's

It is said that 50 Cent cooperated with police and told of McGriff's and his ties to Murder Inc, which would explain McGriff getting sentenced in 2007 and the legal troubles and demise of Murder Inc shortly thereafter.
 
Lol 50 was on rickey smiley the other morning and they asked him wat happened to dude that shot him and he was like

"Oh he aint around no more lol."
Rickey was like "so you sayin he died of natural causes lol"

"Yeah....bullets"

Lol
 
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I was born in Houston & lived there until I was 3y/o - moved up to NY so I always claimed NY. A few years ago I was looking through family photos & saw a pic of a dude who looked just like a young chamillionaire. Asked my moms about the pic and she said "yeah we were neighbors & I heard he's a famous singer now" long story short I was neighbors with cham....View media item 894713
 
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