2001 AIR JORDAN XI **LEGIT CHECK PLEASE** **Possible SCAMMER NTer: Knux11**

idk why you dealt with someone with 50 posts in the first place, only way im dealing with someone whos been here a short time is if they send me cash WU. i aint risking money or my expensive shoes for someone to screw around
 
Ehhh..well I've covered all my bases as far as protecting myself goes.

Again, I believe your rep with paypal plays a part in the decision making. I"ve been doing this for 10 years and this is only the SECOND troll I've ran into claiming bogus paypal disputes.

If i wouldve known he was the same dude that txted me a few weeks back, i DEF would not have dealt with him. He asked for a million and one pics (which i provided) and then said "nah, they have to be flawless at that price" SMFH. I simply replied with a "WOW." Maybe that was me having a "sucky attitude"?? lol
 
-Shoes are legit.
-Buyer needs to calm down and do his research before accusing you of selling fakes.
-He needs to dead the dispute and realize that nothing shady happened until he tried to say you gave him fakes.
-Knux11 if you don't wantem, send em this way b. I'll take those "fakes" off your hands for free.. since you ain't gonna rock fakes of course. I'll take one for the team..
 
Ehhh..well I've covered all my bases as far as protecting myself goes.

Again, I believe your rep with paypal plays a part in the decision making. I"ve been doing this for 10 years and this is only the SECOND troll I've ran into claiming bogus paypal disputes.

If i wouldve known he was the same dude that txted me a few weeks back, i DEF would not have dealt with him. He asked for a million and one pics (which i provided) and then said "nah, they have to be flawless at that price" SMFH. I simply replied with a "WOW." Maybe that was me having a "sucky attitude"?? lol

Ive run into a lot of people like that who will message like crazy and make you jump through hoops for pictures then when its all said and done they flake :lol:
 
See, this is why I said I wouldn't base anything off a "legit or not" thread.

To anyone making judgments, you do realize NOTHING he's said to me has been posted in here, right?

Also, OP, I didn't put in a claim.  I put in a dispute.  That's just to ensure a dialog is made. In my 1000+ ebay transactions, you do that to CYA. It's not a claim at that point.  You didn't even respond, just denied it, which meant my only recourse was to make it a claim.

Also, OP look at the thread title.  You are publicly calling me a scammer, and did so before you made any effort whatsoever to talk with me.  Everything i've said to you has been private, I didn't go putting your name out there negatively. 

Yeah, my accusation may have been a bit hasty.  I was excited to get the box, then got pissed at the thought that they may be fake.  Probably didn't help that the other shoes I almost bought turned out to be fake.  

They do look different from the Bred XI I've owned before, and oddly enough a google search says one of the first things you can see with fakes are improperly designed jumpman logos.

Anyway, MY BAD OP, I'll withdraw the dispute.  

I'll deal with all the name calling. Whatever.
 
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See, this is why I said I wouldn't base anything off a "legit or not" thread.

To anyone making judgments, you do realize NOTHING he's said to me has been posted in here, right?

Also, OP, I didn't put in a claim.  I put in a dispute.  That's just to ensure a dialog is made. In my 1000+ ebay transactions, you do that to CYA. It's not a claim at that point.  You didn't even respond, just denied it, which meant my only recourse was to make it a claim.

Also, OP look at the thread title.  You are publicly calling me a scammer, and did so before you made any effort whatsoever to talk with me.  Everything i've said to you has been private, I didn't go putting your name out there negatively. 

Yeah, my accusation may have been a bit hasty.  I was excited to get the box, then got pissed at the thought that they may be fake.  Probably didn't help that the other shoes I almost bought turned out to be fake.  

They do look different from the Bred XI I've owned before, and oddly enough a google search says one of the first things you can see with fakes are improperly designed jumpman logos.

Anyway, MY BAD OP, I'll withdraw the dispute.  

I'll deal with all the name calling. Whatever.

you both jumped the gun.

why not make a thread on here asking for a legit check? would have eased your mind to see they are legit. you are protected by paypal so waiting half a day to get a legit check wasnt gonna kill you.
 
 
See, this is why I said I wouldn't base anything off a "legit or not" thread.

To anyone making judgments, you do realize NOTHING he's said to me has been posted in here, right?

Also, OP, I didn't put in a claim.  I put in a dispute.  That's just to ensure a dialog is made. In my 1000+ ebay transactions, you do that to CYA. It's not a claim at that point.  You didn't even respond, just denied it, which meant my only recourse was to make it a claim.

Also, OP look at the thread title.  You are publicly calling me a scammer, and did so before you made any effort whatsoever to talk with me.  Everything i've said to you has been private, I didn't go putting your name out there negatively. 

Yeah, my accusation may have been a bit hasty.  I was excited to get the box, then got pissed at the thought that they may be fake.  Probably didn't help that the other shoes I almost bought turned out to be fake.  

They do look different from the Bred XI I've owned before, and oddly enough a google search says one of the first things you can see with fakes are improperly designed jumpman logos.

Anyway, MY BAD OP, I'll withdraw the dispute.  

I'll deal with all the name calling. Whatever.
you both jumped the gun.

why not make a thread on here asking for a legit check? would have eased your mind to see they are legit. you are protected by paypal so waiting half a day to get a legit check wasnt gonna kill you.
I didnt jump anything.

If you look at the first post in here...I put 3 quotes from you, all PMs and messages from You. One of which you clearly stated to open a thread.
 
So I sold these 2001 Blk/Red 11 to NTer @knux11  for $250 last week.

Today, he opens a claim with paypal and pms me stating:

"OK you need to send me a refund and you need to take these fake jordans back.  get back to me ASAP.

"The buttcrack in the jumpman. The fact that the jumpman head is bent."

"go head and open a thread.  I still want to return these fake shoes, don't care what nobody else thinks. 

SCAMMER?? I sent you REAL money.  the only person in this transaction to send someone something real. So don't play games, just send me your return address. 

Maybe you didn't know they were fake?  I dunno.  but these are fake."

I'm 1000% confident these are 1000% authentic. Here are the pics:

Here is the listing:

http://niketalk.com/t/585274/sz-9-5-2001-blk-red-jordan-xi
Also, i said POSSIBLE scammer.
 
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my 2 cents.
Its OK to sell shoes. Just make sure you cover yourself 100000%. That includes taking very detailed pictures.
its OK to buy shoes. Just make sure you cover yourself 100000%. That includes asking for very detailed pictures if they aren't available.

Do research on the product BEFORE purchasing it instead of AFTER.

Hopefully, both of you learned something from this ordeal.

Fake 2001s were super obviously fake. Carbon plate was the biggest give away since it was always painted.

OP, i don't think you were being scammed. Dude just jumped the gun and went crazy. Your reaction probably didn't help either. Part of being a salesman is playing the part of someone that gives a hoot so that you could have a repeat buyer in the future.
 
my 2 cents.
Its OK to sell shoes. Just make sure you cover yourself 100000%. That includes taking very detailed pictures.
its OK to buy shoes. Just make sure you cover yourself 100000%. That includes asking for very detailed pictures if they aren't available.

Do research on the product BEFORE purchasing it instead of AFTER.

Hopefully, both of you learned something from this ordeal.

Fake 2001s were super obviously fake. Carbon plate was the biggest give away since it was always painted.

OP, i don't think you were being scammed. Dude just jumped the gun and went crazy. Your reaction probably didn't help either. Part of being a salesman is playing the part of someone that gives a hoot so that you could have a repeat buyer in the future.
Fair enough, I can feel that.

However, from his first message, he was CERTAIN they were fake. If he came at me differently, i wouldve given him a different response.

By saying "go head and open a thread.  I still want to return these fake shoes, don't care what nobody else thinks." doesnt sound like a reasonable response at all.
 
I can understand but he said he didn't have the best experience with you for the whole sale process. Not just the receipt. I agree he went over the top with his claim. Also knuxx I think you may be a little off when it comes to hiding behind paypals shield.

You don't use it to force convo. You use it as a last resort after all else fails since you only get one chance at a dispute/claim. Once it's closed then you can never go back and open it again.
 
I can understand but he said he didn't have the best experience with you for the whole sale process. Not just the receipt. I agree he went over the top with his claim. Also knuxx I think you may be a little off when it comes to hiding behind paypals shield.

You don't use it to force convo. You use it as a last resort after all else fails since you only get one chance at a dispute/claim. Once it's closed then you can never go back and open it again.

well said, especially the last part
 
I can understand but he said he didn't have the best experience with you for the whole sale process. Not just the receipt. I agree he went over the top with his claim. Also knuxx I think you may be a little off when it comes to hiding behind paypals shield.

You don't use it to force convo. You use it as a last resort after all else fails since you only get one chance at a dispute/claim. Once it's closed then you can never go back and open it again.

I was not rude to this cat In any way, shape, or form. This is our txt convo..

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Everyone's opinions are appreciated.  I think anyone (BOTH OF US) is gonna get upset at being called names/being accused of anything.

I've had an incident on ebay where a dude didn't ship me something at all, and during the time i was trying to get in touch he closed his bank account.  I never got my money back.  Ever since then, I open a dispute first.  You can think it was jumping the gun or whatever, but that's what I do.

The thing about "go head and open a thread.  I still want to return these fake shoes, don't care what nobody else thinks.":

I can see how you took it the way you did.  What I was saying is that had this thread went the way I thought it would, which is basically just a bunch of random opinions by people I don't know without any basis behind their opinions, that wouldn't change my opinion.  

Anyway, the dispute has already been canceled.  As far as I'm concerned, this is all in the past now.
 
I'm just tryin to clear my name lol

I'm MORE than a patient seller.

Im never rude unless you come at me rude or waste my time. Even in that event, all i replied with was "WOW"
 
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