parents arrested and charged for spanking their kid and uploading to facebook

My question... I watched the video, thought it was ridiculous to post it, but I didn't think it was to bad, it was a belt, he had jeans on, and she didn't even put her back into it, she was sitting down whole time. Other notes, kid looked well fed, looked like a pretty normal home. He had clothes, he clearly went to school, he didn't look to have a bunch of marks on him...

soooo my question is...is taking the kid away from these parents and placing him in foster home really better for the kid?
 
mugzbo said:
All of you guys that say hitting a child is "abuse" probably never caught any form of it when you were kids. Hitting and disciplining a child is part of teaching a child not to do what they did wrong in the future, but proactive conversation afterwards as to why they received it and what they did to merit such a whooping is an even bigger part of disciplining. There's always going to be the two parties that's going to disagree on whether physically disciplining a child works or not, if it's right or wrong, etc. I'm not going to tell someone how they should teach their kids as long as they're trying and not going to the extremes to where it might injure the child.

Kids will be kids, they'll always rebel to show that they're maturing and that their parents don't have that vice on them no matter what they say. Sometimes, a whooping can be as detrimental to the child as it is effective. No one method is going to work. It should be a continuous project (parenting) for the parents to figure out what works best for the child since no child is the same. No child is going to react the same way, that's why there's no prescribed method of discipline. Either way, it all starts at home. Without adapting to how the child reacts to the discipline will eventually cause long term mental damage and perhaps even push them away from home altogether.

Recording it and uploading it onto youtube? That's just plain stupid and you deserve to get arrested not for disciplining your kid, but for trying to gloat about it by uploading it. There's a difference in hitting a child to discipline and hitting a child, recording it, and then showing it to the world. :smh:
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So you pretty much didn't read what was posted. Nobody said spanking = abuse. We had people in here saying more parents should closed fist strike their kids including older teens. Also had people say that after you get tired of telling your kid to something g multiple times is ok then to just hit. THAT is not disciple, that's a fight / abuse. That's hitting out of anger, not to teach
 
Dawg I think my grandma would have been serving consecutive life sentences if she had video taped some of my beatings as a kid, the judicial system is a bunch of **** after reading about that rich Pedo who walked blatantly off the strength off his pockets, yet that same system restricts inner city parents from discipline their children who due to their surroundings probably need the most discipline is just laughable, let parents BE parents, a little *** whooping goes a long way when getting your point accross to a disobedient child...I agree there is other ways, but damb, we can't have children run all over the authority of their parents because they feel untouchable.
 
And chill, my definition of a beating does not include closed fist blows, hitting the head or anything remotely close to that....but whipping your child's *** with a belt a couple of times so that they get reminded of who's boss if the circumstances call for it should be perfectly acceptable....different crimes warrant different punishments, you should always put te time and effort into other forms of discipline, but kids are not stupid and if they feel untouchable they will Act untouchable....please bros, lettuce not act as if we weren't all kids no more than 2
Decades ago or less for the majority of ya....I got beat and I was HEATEDDD....but now looking back, ive had beat myself too for being such a disrespectful knucklehead....my grandma sure knew how to put that fear back into my system and guess what, I'm healthy, have good morals and LOVE my grandma to death.
 
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mugzbo said:
All of you guys that say hitting a child is "abuse" probably never caught any form of it when you were kids. Hitting and disciplining a child is part of teaching a child not to do what they did wrong in the future, but proactive conversation afterwards as to why they received it and what they did to merit such a whooping is an even bigger part of disciplining. There's always going to be the two parties that's going to disagree on whether physically disciplining a child works or not, if it's right or wrong, etc. I'm not going to tell someone how they should teach their kids as long as they're trying and not going to the extremes to where it might injure the child.

Kids will be kids, they'll always rebel to show that they're maturing and that their parents don't have that vice on them no matter what they say. Sometimes, a whooping can be as detrimental to the child as it is effective. No one method is going to work. It should be a continuous project (parenting) for the parents to figure out what works best for the child since no child is the same. No child is going to react the same way, that's why there's no prescribed method of discipline. Either way, it all starts at home. Without adapting to how the child reacts to the discipline will eventually cause long term mental damage and perhaps even push them away from home altogether.

Recording it and uploading it onto youtube? That's just plain stupid and you deserve to get arrested not for disciplining your kid, but for trying to gloat about it by uploading it. There's a difference in hitting a child to discipline and hitting a child, recording it, and then showing it to the world.
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So you pretty much didn't read what was posted. Nobody said spanking = abuse. We had people in here saying more parents should closed fist strike their kids including older teens. Also had people say that after you get tired of telling your kid to something g multiple times is ok then to just hit. THAT is not disciple, that's a fight / abuse. That's hitting out of anger, not to teach
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Disregarding the multiple typos, how is it wrong to hit your kid after they won't listen to words? My great grandmother used to say "He who won't hear, will feel."

I believe in talking it out before you resort to a beating but sometimes a whooping will accomplish what words won't. There's only so many times you can say the same thing over and over.
 
Based Jesus said:
Disregarding the multiple typos, how is it wrong to hit your kid after they won't listen to words? My great grandmother used to say "He who won't hear, will feel."
I believe in talking it out before you resort to a beating but sometimes a whooping will accomplish what words won't. There's only so many times you can say the same thing over and over.
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Auto text on the iPhone kills, anywho. Like other said, it's just the "easy way out". Again I've never said never spank your kids. I've already posted the reasoning behind spanking so if you wanna know just go to previous pages.


And again, like others said, if your standard routine is to ask, spank, repeat, is it really effective? Having to do it multiple times, doesn't that deem it ineffective?
 
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I am sure anyone who's had an *** whooping will say they've turned out fine. *** whooping for discipline =/= abuse IMHO.


Hell, I am sure most who have been disciplined/getting spanked can say they are a better person because of their parents...Endless *** whoopings when I acted up :lol:.
 
Luong1209 said:
I am sure anyone who's had an *** whooping will say they've turned out fine. *** whooping for discipline =/= abuse IMHO.


Hell, I am sure most who have been disciplined/getting spanked can say they are a better person because of their parents...Endless *** whoopings when I acted up :lol:.
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We also live in a new age were kids are "smart, stupid people" much faster. The same methods just don't hold the same weight anymore.

Also, maybe you turned out ok, but that's not always the case
 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
Luong1209 said:
I am sure anyone who's had an *** whooping will say they've turned out fine. *** whooping for discipline =/= abuse IMHO.


Hell, I am sure most who have been disciplined/getting spanked can say they are a better person because of their parents...Endless *** whoopings when I acted up :lol:.
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We also live in a new age were kids are "smart, stupid people" much faster. The same methods just don't hold the same weight anymore.

Also, maybe you turned out ok, but that's not always the case
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I'm not saying whoopings are for everyone, but I said most people. In retrospect, it helped me know when not to get out of line, treat adults with respect, and etc.

Again, I'm sure most people can agree.





However, for this instance, it's just straight up stupid to post on FB. Why it is anyone else's business is beyond me.
 
I remember kicking my pops pillow that was under his head when I was 10 for ***** and giggles..He got up and hit me with a right hook and proceeded to stomp the **** outta me while cursing in my native language... Thx goodness my moms was there to save my ***. One out of maybe 4x he's ever laid a hand on me. Feared him but learned to respect him as I got older.
Today, Out of 5 siblings, I'm the only one who takes care of him/house due to his health issues.
In today's society these kids have unlimited options and information. They will get disrespectful and test no matter how prestige your parenting skills are. Whup em for the right reasons and never shame them in public like these ******ed foolios on social media.
 
Luong1209 said:
I'm not saying whoopings are for everyone, but I said most people. In retrospect, it helped me know when not to get out of line, treat adults with respect, and etc.

Again, I'm sure most people can agree.





However, for this instance, it's just straight up stupid to post on FB. Why it is anyone else's business is beyond me.
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What exactly are you claiming people will agree with? Getting spanked or getting beat? I'd disagree that people would agree with beating their children
 
Oh, the classic "My great grandparents blah, blah, blah" rebuttal.

Hell, slavery used to be a thing. Let's go back to that, since the way things used to be is the way things need to stay.

Do away w/ technology altogether. Let's just keep everything the way it was, back when there was no pain, and life was perfect.

Ooooorrrr... BUMP that, and continue learning BETTER ways, more fair practices.

*waits for "Did bruh just compare spanking to slavery?!"*

No, I compared old world thinking, to old world thinking.
 
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Yea dudes talking out of there butt Ive seen plenty of people raised in a great household with good parents and stil act wild some kids you have to beat a stern talking to goes in one ear and out the other for some same goes with taking there things away ...some of you guys are forgetting that there peers will influence them more than there parents will no matter how good of a parent you are
 
BossDonVah said:
Yea dudes talking out of there butt Ive seen plenty of people raised in a great household with good parents and stil act wild some kids you have to beat a stern talking to goes in one ear and out the other for some same goes with taking there things away ...some of you guys are forgetting that there peers will influence them more than there parents will no matter how good of a parent you are
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Again, who said never spank and never discipline? Who said all kids come out perfect with a certain type of raising them?
 
wayniac211 wayniac211 , I see you're familiar w/ placement. :wink:

Yes, I've restrained kids before (and been in restraints).

But not since summer 2011. People change, and increase knowledge.

Well, SOME people increase knowledge and make changes. Some people just stay stuck in old world thinking, but I've already addressed that.

Anyways, I had already felt uncomfortable with and wrestled with restraints, and summer 2011 is when I decided, "No more." The place I was at very restraint friendly, and strongly encouraged us to slam kids. I already hated that, but summer 2011 is when I told them "I'm good on this whole restraint thing." I'm not going to go into detail right now (only to save time) but there are ways to manage aggression other than aggression, and I've been actively practicing those ways for nearly 3 years now at work, off and on w/ girlfriends who had kids (one of which was an absolute terror... but for some reason, found some 'act right' when I was watching him because his mom was off to class or work; weird) and over 6 years with my own son.
 
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[quote name="BossDonVah"]Yea dudes talking out of there butt Ive seen plenty of people raised in a great household with good parents and stil act wild some kids you have to beat a stern talking to goes in one ear and out the other for some same goes with taking there things away ...some of you guys are forgetting that there peers will influence them more than there parents will no matter how good of a parent you are[/quote]You ever seen kids get spanked and still act up?

Ever seen kids get beaten and still act up?

And on the other end of your observation, have you ever seen kids get to raised w/o aggression, and turn out to be very peaceful, respectful people?
 
Also I think those of you who work with children, counselor sand such tend to forget there is a muchhhh more different dynamic between ya and the kids and parents and those same kids...specially when it comes to teens, think of it this way, you can really snap and kill them if they push hard enough, THEY KNOW THIS....their parents....not so muchC every kid knows deep down no matter how much they push their parentals buttons 99% of the time a parent won't inflict lethal force upon them....so please if you work in this type of setting don't compare your methods of discipline to those of a parent....

And to add to that, this is your job, you are a paid professional with education to back your methods, something the average parent isn't...or do you also expect a parent to perform open heart surgery on their kids?
 
[quote name="ksteezy"]No bruh you really did just compare slavery to spanking your kids.... :lol:[/quote]No, bruh, I really didn't, though, bruh. :lol:

And just because you say it was doesn't mean it was. :lol:

It's like if I mention the cupholder in a Ferrari to my Toyota cupholder, and you call that a comparison between Ferrari and Toyota. It's a very simple minded mindset, seeing two things get mentioned together and automatically mocking it as a comparison.

But since it's simple-minded to think that physicality is key to teaching/disciplining, I expected that. That's why I put that in my response; simple minds are predictably simple. :wink:
 
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And to those saying "all kids act up anyway" then why beat them? Lol save yourself some time and just let them be if you've accepted that inevitability.
 
[quote name="ksteezy"]Also I think those of you who work with children, counselor sand such tend to forget there is a muchhhh more different dynamic between ya and the kids and parents and those same kids...specially when it comes to teens, think of it this way, you can really snap and kill them if they push hard enough, THEY KNOW THIS....their parents....not so muchC every kid knows deep down no matter how much they push their parentals buttons 99% of the time a parent won't inflict lethal force upon them....so please if you work in this type of setting don't compare your methods of discipline to those of a parent....

And to add to that, this is your job, you are a paid professional with education to back your methods, something the average parent isn't...or do you also expect a parent to perform open heart surgery on their kids?[/quote] [ksteezy] You just compared this to open heart surgery, bruh. :lol: [/ksteezy]
 
BLASTERCOMBO said:
Again, who said never spank and never discipline? Who said all kids come out perfect with a certain type of raising them?
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who said I was talking to you someone in here Clearly said you should never hit your kids
 
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