How being a Doctor Became the Most Miserable Profession

xilegacy said:
My friends brother is a doctor and he says the same stuff everyone is saying. His problems are worse since he knocked up this chick on a one night stand type of thing :lol:. My brother wanted to be a doctor. Told him to go the engineering route, but he decided on dual degree applied mathematics and computer science. His friend was leaning towards doctor too but decided against it after getting into MIT. Being a doctor isn't worth it if you are doing it for the money. Plenty of people going to school for less years and making more in other fields. Granted these are exceptionally bright people but people becoming doctors aren't exactly stupid.
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I will say you don't have to be exceptionally bright to become a doctor, just hard working. To become a great doctor or match into a very competitive field is probably a different story
 
metsn13 said:
Board certified in internal medicine as well.  Make house calls though my secondary practice.  Also please do a rotation in dermatology before you discount the difficulties that many psoriatic patients as well as those suffering from autoimmune disorders experience on a daily basis.  Many who are not intimate with dermatology have no idea the difficulties that many patients experience with skin and associated internal disorders.  Remember the skin is the largest organ of the body and often paints a picture of internal health.  Next time you are seeing a patient pay close attention to the skin and nail exam on a patient, it often reveals subtle details to the disorders within.
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Great retort!
 
DonRe said:
 
As much money as they make i dont think its that bad of a profession, but i work in the medical, far from a doctor, but this article/editorial breeds a lot of truth. the doctors at my job see at least 18-24 a patients a day and we take in walk-in. its fast-food medical care. the over-referring patient to specialist is the absolute truth these patients are babied but are being disserviced. The doctors are being overworked just for profit and its a bad news.

Sidenote: baddest doctors are dermatologist. dont ask me how.
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what you mean by bad? like fine? or just worse visits

and how?
 
UTVOL23 said:
I think these are the specialties we have but im probably leaving out a few I think the only major one we are missing is gen surg
1. Radiology
2. Emergency medicine
3. Pediatrics
4. Pediatric cardiology
5. Dermatology who also does IM
6. ENT
7. I think we have anesthesia but I cant remember who

im forgetting others but its late and I just got home been at work since before 7 am
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you can add IM to the list 8)
 
UTVOL23 said:
I think these are the specialties we have but im probably leaving out a few I think the only major one we are missing is gen surg
1. Radiology
2. Emergency medicine
3. Pediatrics
4. Pediatric cardiology
5. Dermatology who also does IM
6. ENT
7. I think we have anesthesia but I cant remember who

im forgetting others but its late and I just got home been at work since before 7 am
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Hi gais ;-)
 
ILL LEGAL OPERATION said:
**** law and med school...

...dental school is the way to go.

All of the baggin', none of the naggin'...
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Care to elaborate? Or explain why dental school would be "easier"

I heard that dental students learn almost the same things/take the same classes as med students, at least in their first year?
 
I seen some of the stuff the article talked about first hand after my father completed medical school and told me he never working in a hospital or with patients again...went straight to a 9-5 research job :lol:
 
I actually have yet to wear Js to work and I wear scrubs very frequently. Part of me just doesnt want to tract stuff from the hospital home. I leave my danskos in the garage and I also dont want to get pus blood on my Js. I could wear shoe covers bit mostly dont
 
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paulprince3730 said:
what you mean by bad? like fine? or just worse visits

and how?
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Nah as in aesthetically pleasing. There are a couple residents that come through but are really uptight/snobbish. One doctor told me they get into that field becuase it's the easiest. Which from I see is true, the derm spends on average about 5 minutes with a patient and just send em on thier way with a prescription. But this is what the patients tell me.
 
I rocked an old pair of J's as an intern and now rock an old pair of Dunks as an R1. Would never wear nice sneaks as procedures are possible on pretty much every service
 
youngdoc said:
I rocked an old pair of J's as an intern and now rock an old pair of Dunks as an R1. Would never wear nice sneaks as procedures are possible on pretty much every service
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Definitely dont want to spill some Barium on the Js
 
youngdoc said:
Crap is worse. F ostomies
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you dont even wanna know what happened to me when doing a hip aspiration for septic joint on a pt paralyzed from the waste down. Mind you the pt was on contact precautions for c diff. This was last week too
 
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I'll be real, i have many friends that are docs, and they are all BURNT out and not even 40 yet. The ******** they have to deal with from fellow staff but more importantly POS patients is not worth being able to pay bills from what i've been told.
 
Three00ZeeX said:
Where is @Hodog16 anyways? I remember talking to him about medicine even before I started med school.

You guys known for being the doc w all the sneakers at work?
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You know it ! In med school some classmates used to call me Dr Nike. If I'm not wearing scrubs I'm wearing jeans and a character tee. Gotta love that no dress code
 
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This article was geared towards "Primary Care Physicians" who should not get overlooked. They are seeing an increase in responsibility and production in a restricted time frame to complete their work. Pressure is increased, but compensation may decrease. It just doesn't seem fare. You are expected to thoroughly treat a patient, but do it all within 15 minutes. And then do it again 24 times/day with different patients.

All in all, there are changes being made, as UCSF has displayed examples of training other Health Care Professionals to be Health Coaches in order to give patients more time to be treated under different Health Care Professionals besides their primary care physician. With Health Coaches, Patients are not limited to 15 minute visits and are given ample attention to leave the Hospital content or even happy.

More responsibility should be assigned to other health care professionals: Physician Assistants, Nurse Practitioners, Health Coaches etc in order for Primary Care Physicians to get help.

As of now, the demands are unreasonable...But articles like these will bring light to unhappy Physicians, and hopefully change will be made.

Within the article, there was a link to another article talking about how Physicians are studying to get their MBA in order to better equip themselves to increase patient care. it states,

“Many physicians working in medical centers,” Lehrich said, “feel like prisoners of the hospital administration. They’re tired of being told, ‘Well, you’re the physician. You just go off and practice and we’ll make all the decisions.’

“Doctors can be changed by the system or be part of the change,” said Salgo. They can continue to be advocates for the patient and for good care, he said. But they can’t leave everything else to legislators and administrators. “Physicians with business training can help lead the change.”

If we, are weary of taking the Primary Care Physician route because of increase demands of production/responsibility with decrease in compensation, then we must do something to change it. Change the system, to where Doctors are protected once again. Run hospital teams more efficiently so that the pressure to operate doesn't lie solely on the doctor.

The profession of being a doctor is not going anywhere, we just have to do a better job at fighting for it to where we are able to protect our positions, create teams of health care professionals to satisfy patients while running efficiently, and be better at having a voice within the hospital administration so that Primary Care Physicians no longer get bullied around
 
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