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THIS THIS THIS.
How being a Doctor Became the Most Miserable Profession
THIS THIS THIS.
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Family Medicine here...im prob the only primary care person on this board.....and i agree with majority of the posters....if you are doing this for the money...its NOT for you....and its also stressful...but like majority of the others that are MDs we cant really express much frustration of loans etc because the general population assumes you are rolling in dough, when in reality, you are Aunt Sallies *****. Going this path has closed some previous relationships. While opening others....
To all the MDs out here...the real money isnt from your Dr income...the real money is how you invest it and your side hustles..
If i could do it all over again...i def would go a dif route...but still stay in healthcare
To all the MDs out here...the real money isnt from your Dr income...the real money is how you invest it and your side hustles..
If i could do it all over again...i def would go a dif route...but still stay in healthcare
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Im a rare case, that I actually talk about real world things in gatherings but im actually looked at weird
Most people are completely immersed in medicine that that's literally all they know
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Slim K 
, the fact that the man making these dope *** slim k slowdowns is a doctor is so 
to me
I can't wait to join the doctors of NT mane
, the fact that the man making these dope *** slim k slowdowns is a doctor is so to meI can't wait to join the doctors of NT mane
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^LOL...i almost never talk about work outside of work...mainly because the people I interact with at work are COMPLETELY different than people I interact with in real life...
Works stressful for me...i unwind creating mixes
Works stressful for me...i unwind creating mixes
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Slim K
I can't wait to join the doctors of NT mane
omg this was also a surprise to me
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Lol damn that's crazy, slim k is a dr
Listening to the Gran Turismo mix rn, on point
I have a question for the surgeons (or anyone else knowledgeable on it): would a non invasive cardiologist experience the same amount of stress that a invasive cardiologist would face?
Listening to the Gran Turismo mix rn, on point
I have a question for the surgeons (or anyone else knowledgeable on it): would a non invasive cardiologist experience the same amount of stress that a invasive cardiologist would face?
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Nice. we have a Doc who mixes. I'm primary care too fam. To all the NTdocs, what kicks are you wearing today at work ? I went bright
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Say I have a business that is grossing 150k a year, with the potential to expand and hit millions within 5-10 years.
Should I still start med school this August?
Should I still start med school this August?
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All a bunch of nonsense.
The problem is that the vast majority of medical doctors who are not happy got into it for the money/ prestige. The problem being that they thought they'd be filthy rich. When reality hits and you're only "sort of rich", disappointment sets in to say the least.
Furthermore, they look at other professions where 30 year old's make six figures plus with only bachelor degrees and start to question whether becoming a doctor was worth it.
Let's not even get started on the fact that the web/ mobile apps can wipe out most family doctors in a few years if the industry was deregulated a bit.
I have a lot of respect for surgeons because it's hard to be a bad surgeon ( of course some are naturally better than others). However, it's not so hard to be a bad physician. In fact, there are plenty of bad physicians and most are nothing special. IF the AMA monopoly is ever broken, non surgical medicine will become a middle of the road profession (like it once was).
The problem is that the vast majority of medical doctors who are not happy got into it for the money/ prestige. The problem being that they thought they'd be filthy rich. When reality hits and you're only "sort of rich", disappointment sets in to say the least.
Furthermore, they look at other professions where 30 year old's make six figures plus with only bachelor degrees and start to question whether becoming a doctor was worth it.
Let's not even get started on the fact that the web/ mobile apps can wipe out most family doctors in a few years if the industry was deregulated a bit.
I have a lot of respect for surgeons because it's hard to be a bad surgeon ( of course some are naturally better than others). However, it's not so hard to be a bad physician. In fact, there are plenty of bad physicians and most are nothing special. IF the AMA monopoly is ever broken, non surgical medicine will become a middle of the road profession (like it once was).
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Why is that? IMO, it's because primary care physicians are vastly overpaid and are conferred way too much importance in the medical chain. Especially taking into account the web/mobile apps and their widespread use among the general populace.
We might as well call primary care doctors what they are in our society; glorified prescription writers. Do I really need someone making 6 figures to tell me I need cold medicine because I have a cold? Or, do I really need someone making 6 figures to tell me I need to see a gastro if I'm complaining of acute stomach pain? One can point out that one time a primary care physician made an incredible diagnosis which saved someone's life but let's think in 99% of cases here.
Primary care doctors used to earn middle class salaries. Then came along price controls and employer health insurance plans and we have what we have today. Everything reverts to the mean on a long enough timeline.
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WaWa is back!
I like his postings, always agree with a lot of his thinking.
Btw I don't have a primary doc. Havnt in like 10 years.
I like his postings, always agree with a lot of his thinking.
Btw I don't have a primary doc. Havnt in like 10 years.
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A question for all the NT docs in here: I'm just finished undergrad and am about to apply to medical school. As some of you stated, if you would start over again, you wouldn't have chosen the doctor route. What profession would you have chosen? Would it still have been in healthcare?
I only ask because I'm very torn on whether I should continue my path as you guys have. I did 4 years of pre-med along with a full Mathematics major. Is there anything you guys would suggest for me given my background?
I only ask because I'm very torn on whether I should continue my path as you guys have. I did 4 years of pre-med along with a full Mathematics major. Is there anything you guys would suggest for me given my background?
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I have a question for all of you who happen to be doctors, what are the challenges you face as far as your life outside of work? For example I don't know if I could deal with lack of sleep, or not going to the gym, etc. I understand sacrifices have to be made but at one point did any of you say this sucks?
I really wanted to go to med school but I'm more focused on the money aspect than anything else because honestly I come from the hood and I need to take care of my mom. So after reading some of these replies it might not be for me, so I thank all of you who have contributed.
I really wanted to go to med school but I'm more focused on the money aspect than anything else because honestly I come from the hood and I need to take care of my mom. So after reading some of these replies it might not be for me, so I thank all of you who have contributed.
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wait so you think the general population could go to webmd and search their symptoms and then be able to know whats going on and how to treat it? Thats hilarious if that is what your point was. Many conditions present with similar symptoms and pts come in all the time thinking they have one condition because they googled it and couldn't be farther from what their actual diagnosis is. They also usually wind up thinking the worst. Also for procedures they read on it the night before and come in terrified and more stressed out than is necessary because they dont understand the anatomy physiological or the technique
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My field is taking some serious hits right now and the job market sucks but I would choose medicine again and I would choose the same specialty because I enjoy what I do.
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This is the absolute truth...nurses/pcts are THIRSTY. I don't even work in the hospital anymore, but when I did it was crazy. Even when I bring patients to the ER now, it's the same deal. They are sex crazed...
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just wait one COT DAMN MINUTE
ur a doctor????????
the slim k mix dude????
would u hook an nter up with a free checkup if he asked???? just curious
dont need one would just be dope if u did
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I agree with you. Most people wouldn't put in the time to properly self diagnose, even if they all the info at their disposal. However, they wouldn't need to.
If the industry was deregulated (not in the sense that any bum could prescribe medicine but in the sense that there could actually be medical apps) there'd be so many quality medical apps it'd blow your mind. There are so many great ideas in the pipeline that would make medicine more accessible (i.e. dumbed down, user friendly) to the average joe but it's not feasible with all of the regulation around the industry.
Primary care doctors would disappear so fast, it would blow your mind. Then other specialties would get hit hard too.
Give it some time and surgeons would get hit too. The fact is, an algorithm coupled with a processor is much more reliable than a human being for the vast majority of routine surgeries.
The tech revolution hasn't hit the medical industry because the medical industry has a huge lobby. Mostly thanks to the AMA and hospital administrators raking in millions/year managing thousands of hospital employees.
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If that's what interests you, go for it. Just don't get in it for the money because you will be miserable and so will your spouse/girlfriend/partner. If I had to do it again, would still go into the same specialty because I really do enjoy it and like coming to work and that is key.
On a side note there are good doctors and bad doctors just like in any other careers. Looks like some of the NT fam hasn't seen any good ones due to some of the comments on here. Hope you guys meet a primary care physician that works for you
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Just wanted to add that if doctors think the profession is miserable now just wait until modern tech gets a hold.
Stock brokers used to be very important as well and made tons of money. Then came electronic trading and the once famed stock broker is akin to a dinosaur.
Same thing will happen with medicine (especially as it concerns non surgical specialties), it's just a matter of time. Stock brokers didn't have such a powerful lobby behind them so they were hit pretty fast.
Stock brokers used to be very important as well and made tons of money. Then came electronic trading and the once famed stock broker is akin to a dinosaur.
Same thing will happen with medicine (especially as it concerns non surgical specialties), it's just a matter of time. Stock brokers didn't have such a powerful lobby behind them so they were hit pretty fast.
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So you think medicine and some surgeries can be done by computer programs and robots? You realize not everyones anatomy is the same and thats just the start of the complications.
There is a reason the training takes years and years wouldn't it be great if we could all google what symptoms we are having and come to the correct diagnosis . You seem to make medicine a very basic science when in reality its a complex science and art
There is a reason the training takes years and years wouldn't it be great if we could all google what symptoms we are having and come to the correct diagnosis . You seem to make medicine a very basic science when in reality its a complex science and art
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wait one god damb minute
slim K is on Nike talk?!?
Waddup famb!! slim k slow diiiiine
slim K is on Nike talk?!?
Waddup famb!! slim k slow diiiiine
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You make it seem as if a thorough physical exam is completely useless.
