2014-15 Official Lakers Season Thread, Vol: We Love Each Other

[htg designs]

This gone be a must watch season. Cant wait to see Lin gettin ripped by Kobe

 

[mj 23]

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[sb]

i think this season will be entertaining 

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[essential1]

If we can find a place to send Nash, and take no contract back, we have $12.2mil in cap space.
If we stretch Nash we have $8.9mil in cap space
Currently have $3mil in cap space.
If Hill or Kelly signs a deal, cap space is gone.


If we could take the 2nd we got from the Rockets & 2016 2nd to get Nash to Sixers, have to do it. If we can't, have to stretch him. Or even trading Nash for Jason Richardson opens up an extra $3mil for this year.

We need another young guy for a few years to show Free Agents that we are somewhat serious.

At this point only Lance fits that.

 

[grandtheftbike]

Julius

I am excite

 

[tupac003]

Sitting here watching the Lakers network watching the top 10 lakers transactions....

I'll tell you in my time being on this earth I have been spoiled with this franchise... I have seen this laker franchise win 9 titles...NINE!!!

I know we are bad...and will be bad for a while...

But I can't ever jump. We gonna get better...we always have...and we always will.

#believe

 

[SORIANOTRON]

dont know bout kellz

good kid, seems like hes going to be a nice player in the future....just dont have time x money for that right now.

 

[tupac003]

Pau Gasol Finalizing Three-Year, $22M Deal With Bulls
Jul 13, 2014 11:35 PM EDT

Pau Gasol and the Chicago Bulls are finalizing a three-year, $22 million deal.

Gasol has been with the Los Angeles Lakers since his trade from the Memphis Grizzlies in 2008.

Well been a great run Pau. Thanks for the 2 titles.

 

[CP1708]

So Pau took less money to play in Chicago?

Duncan, Manu, Parker, Bron, Bosh, Wade, Dirk, Pau, Melo.

I don't count Steph because of injury history.
I don't count Dwight cuz he'll still get paid during that 5th year.
I don't count Kobe cuz 79 million in final 3 years.

 

[tupac003]

So Pau took less money to play in Chicago?

Duncan, Manu, Parker, Bron, Bosh, Wade, Dirk, Pau, Melo.

I don't count Steph because of injury history.
I don't count Dwight cuz he'll still get paid during that 5th year.
I don't count Kobe cuz 79 million in final 3 years.

...let it go. Please...just let it go. LOL

 

[CP1708]

Just updating Pau to the list. Not ripping Kobe.

 

[tupac003]

Did bosh take less money? I thought he got a max deal? So did Bron. I know he only signed a two year deal but wasn't it max?

 

[CP1708]

In 2010 all 3 took less, to help nab Haslem.

 

[mjsaver]

Sitting here watching the Lakers network watching the top 10 lakers transactions....

I'll tell you in my time being on this earth I have been spoiled with this franchise... I have seen this laker franchise win 9 titles...NINE!!!

I know we are bad...and will be bad for a while...

But I can't ever jump. We gonna get better...we always have...and we always will.

#believe

Likewise I've seriously enjoyed, talk ****, and won money on 5 chips.....it's been a great run as a fan but you gotta take the good with the bad that's life.

I'm in it for the long haul but I'm not rushing into the dark ages because no matter how much we speculate, predict, or overanalyze there's no guarantee how long we'll be there.

 

[mjsaver]

In 2010 all 3 took less, to help nab Haslem.

They took a smidgen less than the max right, or was it a significant paycut ?

Not a loaded question just honest curiosity.

 

[tupac003]

Really wasn't a dramatic pay cut. Nothing like duncan, parker and manu. They are the franchise of paycuts.

 

[Lizakers]

Plan B lookin good, Mitch did it again, let's goooooo

For real though, our backup guards won't be so bad with Marshall and Clarkson, the rook looks good, we ain't got no bigs though

 

[senorroboto2k5]

Sitting here watching the Lakers network watching the top 10 lakers transactions....

I'll tell you in my time being on this earth I have been spoiled with this franchise... I have seen this laker franchise win 9 titles...NINE!!!

I know we are bad...and will be bad for a while...

But I can't ever jump. We gonna get better...we always have...and we always will.

#believe

Saw this on my guide. Do you remember what any of them were?

 

[bravelude]

So Pau took less money to play in Chicago?

Duncan, Manu, Parker, Bron, Bosh, Wade, Dirk, Pau, Melo.

I don't count Steph because of injury history.
I don't count Dwight cuz he'll still get paid during that 5th year.
I don't count Kobe cuz 79 million in final 3 years.

Don't necessarily think it's about the money for everyone.  I think Pau just wanted to find a new environment, to send a message to Lakers mgmt that LA is indeed done for and that there was no need to be 'loyal'.  There was no need to 'discuss' w/ Kobe about taking one for the team anymore.  LA did nothing this off-season.  It seemed they were confused as heck and started to panic, thereby signed the same guys on quick contracts.  

 

[CP1708]

In 2010 all 3 took less, to help nab Haslem.

They took a smidgen less than the max right, or was it a significant paycut ?

Not a loaded question just honest curiosity.

If I remember it right, Wade asked for them all to take 1 million less so they could bring Haslem back.

I think (but not sure) he came back at a lower price too, because of their gesture. I believe he could have gotten more on the market elsewhere. (Safe bet when you view the money handed out over the years to free agents)

 

[CP1708]

I don't think we'll be bad "for a while".

IF....

We play our hand properly.

Just, with a little luck/executive order, we hire Byron and signal for good we suck.

However it happens, be it tanking, or Silver giving us the Cleveland special, we keep our top 5. PF is out cuz of Randle, so for this example, we take SF Stanley Johnson.

Houston pick we nab.....? (I need to work on this one, Willie Cauley-Stein maybe????)

At the trade deadline, we try to flip Lin, Hill, Marshall or Nash. If we get anything, great, if not, let them expire. (27-28 mil)

2015 FA, we try to get Marc Gasol.

C, Gasol, Sacre, Stein
PF, Randle, Kelly
SF, Johnson, Young
SG, Kobe, Xavier
PG, Clarkson, Kane

Room for 1 more. Maybe Marshall, or any piece we get from a deadline deal.

Young, young core, minus Kobe, Gasol 2.0, and Young.

After that year, Kobe leaves, 25 mil in cap space. Our pitch to Durant is Gasol, Randle, Johnson, Clarkson (hopefully) plus an already young, but experienced bench.

If Durant says no, ok, you split the 25 between two pieces at 13 and 12 per. (Whoever else is obtainable that summer)

Then you'd still have the upside to improve with in Randle, Johnson, Clarkson, Stein, Kane, Kelly, Xavier, Sacre.

Or, deals that involve moving 2-3 of them for a suddenly available piece, like the Harden deal. Or upcoming Love deal if that happens.

Play it right, we tank this year correctly, little luck with the Houston pick, we can be back fighting in the 2015-16 season, Kobe's last run. 2 top picks, a Marc Gasol signing, and some Laker luck with Clarkson and the Houston pick, we'd be solid again, with cheap contracts, expirings, and hope again.


So you may not like tanking, but it could be a nice means to an end. And in one year, it would all be over and a new generation of Lakers would be created in the same mold as Nick, Kobe, Eddie, Elden and then Shaq.

 

[th0mas cr0wn]

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[MVP]

I don't think we'll be bad "for a while".

IF....

We play our hand properly.

Just, with a little luck/executive order, we hire Byron and signal for good we suck.

However it happens, be it tanking, or Silver giving us the Cleveland special, we keep our top 5. PF is out cuz of Randle, so for this example, we take SF Stanley Johnson.

Houston pick we nab.....? (I need to work on this one, Willie Cauley-Stein maybe????)

At the trade deadline, we try to flip Lin, Hill, Marshall or Nash. If we get anything, great, if not, let them expire. (27-28 mil)

2015 FA, we try to get Marc Gasol.

C, Gasol, Sacre, Stein
PF, Randle, Kelly
SF, Johnson, Young
SG, Kobe, Xavier
PG, Clarkson, Kane

Room for 1 more. Maybe Marshall, or any piece we get from a deadline deal.

Young, young core, minus Kobe, Gasol 2.0, and Young.

After that year, Kobe leaves, 25 mil in cap space. Our pitch to Durant is Gasol, Randle, Johnson, Clarkson (hopefully) plus an already young, but experienced bench.

If Durant says no, ok, you split the 25 between two pieces at 13 and 12 per. (Whoever else is obtainable that summer)

Then you'd still have the upside to improve with in Randle, Johnson, Clarkson, Stein, Kane, Kelly, Xavier, Sacre.

Or, deals that involve moving 2-3 of them for a suddenly available piece, like the Harden deal. Or upcoming Love deal if that happens.

Play it right, we tank this year correctly, little luck with the Houston pick, we can be back fighting in the 2015-16 season, Kobe's last run. 2 top picks, a Marc Gasol signing, and some Laker luck with Clarkson and the Houston pick, we'd be solid again, with cheap contracts, expirings, and hope again.


So you may not like tanking, but it could be a nice means to an end. And in one year, it would all be over and a new generation of Lakers would be created in the same mold as Nick, Kobe, Eddie, Elden and then Shaq.

Sounds decent on paper.

Question, so you'll be fine with us giving a 30 yr old Marc Gasol a max deal next summer?

And if missing on Durant, you'll be ok with giving that cap space to other 2nd tier guys? Why at that point do we not continue to tank after missing on KD?

And also that's quite the pitch to give to KD when he'll also have to take less money and leave a prime Russ and Ibaka in OKC. Unlike Shaq.

And in your scenario we have 25 mil in cap space which is enough to do something? Whether it be a star or 2nd tier guys?

All interesting stuff...

 

[Animal Thug]

That phil/Melo gif made my night I'm sleep though.

 

[CP1708]

I don't think we'll be bad "for a while".

IF....

We play our hand properly.

Just, with a little luck/executive order, we hire Byron and signal for good we suck.

However it happens, be it tanking, or Silver giving us the Cleveland special, we keep our top 5. PF is out cuz of Randle, so for this example, we take SF Stanley Johnson.

Houston pick we nab.....? (I need to work on this one, Willie Cauley-Stein maybe????)

At the trade deadline, we try to flip Lin, Hill, Marshall or Nash. If we get anything, great, if not, let them expire. (27-28 mil)

2015 FA, we try to get Marc Gasol.

C, Gasol, Sacre, Stein
PF, Randle, Kelly
SF, Johnson, Young
SG, Kobe, Xavier
PG, Clarkson, Kane

Room for 1 more. Maybe Marshall, or any piece we get from a deadline deal.

Young, young core, minus Kobe, Gasol 2.0, and Young.

After that year, Kobe leaves, 25 mil in cap space. Our pitch to Durant is Gasol, Randle, Johnson, Clarkson (hopefully) plus an already young, but experienced bench.

If Durant says no, ok, you split the 25 between two pieces at 13 and 12 per. (Whoever else is obtainable that summer)

Then you'd still have the upside to improve with in Randle, Johnson, Clarkson, Stein, Kane, Kelly, Xavier, Sacre.

Or, deals that involve moving 2-3 of them for a suddenly available piece, like the Harden deal. Or upcoming Love deal if that happens.

Play it right, we tank this year correctly, little luck with the Houston pick, we can be back fighting in the 2015-16 season, Kobe's last run. 2 top picks, a Marc Gasol signing, and some Laker luck with Clarkson and the Houston pick, we'd be solid again, with cheap contracts, expirings, and hope again.


So you may not like tanking, but it could be a nice means to an end. And in one year, it would all be over and a new generation of Lakers would be created in the same mold as Nick, Kobe, Eddie, Elden and then Shaq.

Sounds decent on paper.

Question, so you'll be fine with us giving a 30 yr old Marc Gasol a max deal next summer?

And if missing on Durant, you'll be ok with giving that cap space to other 2nd tier guys? Why at that point do we not continue to tank after missing on KD?

And also that's quite the pitch to give to KD when he'll also have to take less money and leave a prime Russ and Ibaka in OKC. Unlike Shaq.

And in your scenario we have 25 mil in cap space which is enough to do something? Whether it be a star or 2nd tier guys?

All interesting stuff...

More interesting that you need help with the answers. In order.....

Marc Gasol, a Center, 2 way Center, is better than a one way chucker. A Center, that anchors the defense, is a premium. So yes, more than Melo, no doubt.

If you miss on KD, we at the same time will have built a core. (In theory) Randle, Johnson (top 5), Stein (Hou pick) and Clarkson. Plus, signed Gasol. A solid, solid group to build with. If we miss KD, and no other options after that, then you can add the two pieces ON TOP of the young, cheap, assets. Adding a 12 and 13 now, would prevent a top 5 pick to pair with Randle. Surely, you coulda figured that out on your own.

Shaq went to the ******* Finals in 95, and joined us in 96. Are you lost or something? He left an entire starting lineup in their prime for a younger Laker core. Unlike Shaq.

And once again, 25 mil, ON TOP, SAY AGAIN, ON TOP, of a core built up. This summer, right now, we have jack ****. Kobe, and a still unproven Randle/Clarkson. We have a hint that Kelly/Xavier can play. A glimpse. But we aren't sure. Add another year or two, we'll know better on Randle, Clarkson, Kane, Kelly, Sacre, Xavier, Johnson (or whoever top 5 pick),and Stein (or whoever Hou pick). PLUS we'd have signed Marc. Hence, core, built, stronger, questions answered better, than today, when you wanted to sign guys with a core of Kobe, Nash, Sacre, and Marshall the only players under contract.


Can you grasp all that, or need more help? You understand the difference of two years building? You good there, or not really?

I know you been cryin with all the whoa is us, tanking takes 8 years, we're Orlando now, blah blah blah.

Naw man. Do this right, teach these kids how to play, develop their skills, get lucky with our top 5 and Hou pick, one year.


Lose this top 5 pick, and Houston gives us the 27th pick, well, things get a lot murkier. Much harder.

Need me to draw that picture too, or you can grasp that one?