Kid cuts line to get Yeezy foams, gets shot/Stupidity Thread

[frshstunna]

Grew up in Bmore and moved to DC...unless you from Chi-town or Detroit I don't want to hear it. TALK TO DRUG DEALERS!!!! I know, a little to intuitive, but actually talk to these people, see what they need, see why they do what they do, I can tell you it stems from the need for protection, there are millions of dollars floating around the hood; of course the cops want a piece, of course that youngin down the streets want a piece...cats are killing out of fear, move to the suburbs, to a college down, see how hard drugs are dealt out there and tell me you can't sell drugs without violence.

Naw mane you couldnt possibly grown up in my city talking all this bs about drugs/ violence and **** ...if you did you know **** real out here and its nothing good about it, got whole sections of the city still ****** up cuz of all that ...i wont allow it

 

[knowledgebones72]

I kinda feel what he's saying there.

I always wondered why drug dealers don't try to put their money into improving their communities, since they are fully aware of the conditions they're in and the fact that they are directly making things much worse.

Also, I've always felt like (even though they would merk me) dudes like Blood Money and basically all the dudes in Chiraq who are over the age of 25 are straight up pudussy. They have all these guns and claim to be so lawless, yet they ain't tyrna spark no revolution. They could be straight up going to war with the rich white people in Chicago, just robbing them en masse and going HAM just to mess things up and spark some sort of armed revolt. But nah, they gonna hang out with 16 year olds and participate in a "game".

They are selling poison and willing to kill anyone who gets in their way........ But deep down want to improve the community???? Y'all can't be this dumb. No way

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

 

[ksteezy]

Dawg....

I don't eem

 

[blastercombo]

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

This is an even stupider post. My lord. Thanks for the clarification

 

[stillin729]

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

wait what? are you seriously asking why drug dealers don't rob and invade rich folks homes?

 

[sj45]

*Looks at thread title, reads posts*

 

[am1x90xnike]

Drug dealers are instant killers? Only care about themselves? Drug dealing is easy? If thats what ya'l believe, thats what ya'll believe, but take it from a dude that has been been on the other side and has the education to actually speak/write about it...that ain't the case. If you took three seconds to read a book, watch a documentary....or.....actually talk to drug dealers I can't imagine you would hold the same view.

 

[knowledgebones72]

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

This is an even stupider post. My lord. Thanks for the clarification

Hey, bruh.

That's just how I feel.

 

[am1x90xnike]

also, I've noticed a few things

1. cats always talk facts, but I'm the only person in here who has posted any symbolence of empircal data

2. cats talk about they "know" but I'm the only one in here who posted actual stories, albeit anectdoctal, about drug dealers I've known

3. cats say my logic is flawed, but have failed to provide any type of actul rebuttal besides 'drug dealers are bad because I know they're bad' (refer to 2)
It's cool though NT, people praise logic x data...when it supports their side.

 

[knowledgebones72]

 

[am1x90xnike]

See Knowledge, that's what I expect from you, not generalizations. I knew you were better than that. Officially on the summer reading list.

 

[jbc908]

Weed pushers are harmless, anything above that is bad news. I've seen enough of that in Newark. Drug Dealers may be selling for a need to eat but anything after that is straight lies, money is the root of all evil, i had homies that always talked about "how they gonna give back" but swear people leachin for asking for money. I don't doubt you saying you had family that cared that was hooked but from my fam i got lucky i only got a few fam wit drug problems. If you find a drug dealer getting money that's giving back to the hood imma find a pig that flies.

 

[stillin729]

Weed pushers are harmless, anything above that is bad news.\

ding ding ding

only problem is the weed pushers that try to move onto a bigger paying drug

 

[knowledgebones72]

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

wait what? are you seriously asking why drug dealers don't rob and invade rich folks homes?

that's exactly what i'm asking.

 

[hennessy]

Wow I slept on this thread

Quite the opposite good sir, that I assure you. Difference of opinion doesn't denote me being somehow inferior in intelligence or mindset.

I don't believe drug dealing to be bad, I do believe violence to be bad. I don't believe drug dealing leads to violence. I do believe police lead to violence, at least when it comes to their interactions with the Negroes. Snitching invites the police, that creates dangerous conditions for young Negroes, makes young Negroes more apt to use violence.

Now, i believe we should let people cook in specified areas, far away from children and the elderly, and don't involve the police then we wouldn't have a bunch of young Negroes shooting to protect themselves from each other and the police, wouldn't end the problem, but would curb the problem of inner city violence.

Personally, I hold the view drug dealers should use some excess proceeds to put money into schools and daycares.

I'm a little idealistic I know, but if it works for pharma/cigarettes/alcohol then it should work for weed and coke...maybe so many fathers wouldn't end up dead or in jail, maybe it'll lower the recidivism rate, maybe some Negroes can build some wealth...but that's to much.

Are you proposing something similar to Hamsterdam from The Wire? But with NO POLICE SUPERVISION? Because policing that area was one of the aspects that made the whole thing attractive. Without that, you still have greedy drug dealers fighting/killing for control of that turf. Because if you "let people cook" in specified areas with no legal ramifications for their drug dealing actions...you really think they're all just gonna get along peacefully and split the profits? Will there be a number of these areas all over the city? What happens to drug dealers that get caught outside of that area? Do they still receive the strict punishments that other dealers would be immune from? Are there going to be age restrictions in this area? What about all the politics behind this? You can see the reasons why something like this would be nearly impossible to implement successfully. And why it was kept under wraps in the show. It was a secret, risky, temporary attempt to fix the myriad of social problems which have become intrinsically connected to drug dealing.

The police, POLICE (verb) areas where drug dealers are present because they are a VIOLENT THREAT to the community. They may not intend to directly, physically, hurt members of their community. They are in it for the money. But money/greed can be blinding. And this is a lifestyle which is easy to get caught up in. They obviously don't care about the mental health of their customers. They want them addicted because that means more money. Are they supplying them clean needles? I doubt it. What happens when a community member, minding their own business, gets hit by a stray bullet from a gang-related shooting? Unintended consequences and innocent bystanders come with the territory of drug dealing. That's why police are "invited" to deal with these cancers to the community. So normal people can feel safe.

But for the whole Hamsterdam thing... We do this already (very very limited in the US, but more prevalent in Europe) for drug addicts with needle exchange programs. And all the evidence suggests it is a good thing. It cuts infection rates (no more shared needles) and leads to addiction being treated as a medical problem instead of a justice problem. As it should be. While I think these things are beneficial to some degree, they are only partial solutions to the underlying issues. I think the drug dealers are FAR more harmful than any addicts out there. I'm not talking about weed dealers but those who deal hard drugs/pills/etc...

For you to put so much emphasis on the plight of negroes in drug dealing infested neighborhoods, and at the same time excuse them (the drug dealers) for their actions and blame police instead is just absurd. Drug dealing is bad. It doesn't just ruin the lives of those involved and innocent people in black neighborhoods in the US. This is a problem all over the world. Different countries, races, cultures. Your post just comes off very naive. I really can't believe some of what I've read in this thread

 

[stillin729]

that's exactly what i'm asking.

maybe because drug dealers aren't stupid and realize how quickly robbing a rich person would land them in jail?

 

[knowledgebones72]

that's exactly what i'm asking.

maybe because drug dealers aren't stupid and realize how quickly robbing a rich person would land them in jail?

Dudes are landing in jail quick as hell either way.

Might as well go where the nicer stuff is.

But really i'm talking about some domestic terrorism type stuff. Like violence concentrated on certain people with an organized group stating clear intentions, motivations, and goals attached to each of these acts.

Like, take all the gangs in Chicago and use that firepower and manpower to start a revolution.

 

[antidope]

I came back into this thread because of the thread title change and man..........

IDK what statement in here was the dumbest but there are several frontrunners.

 

[jjs07]

Dudes are landing in jail quick as hell either way.

Might as well go where the nicer stuff is.

But really i'm talking about some domestic terrorism type stuff. Like violence concentrated on certain people with an organized group stating clear intentions, motivations, and goals attached to each of these acts.

Like, take all the gangs in Chicago and use that firepower and manpower to start a revolution.

Man, what?

 

[blastercombo]

Dudes are landing in jail quick as hell either way.

Might as well go where the nicer stuff is.

But really i'm talking about some domestic terrorism type stuff. Like violence concentrated on certain people with an organized group stating clear intentions, motivations, and goals attached to each of these acts.

Like, take all the gangs in Chicago and use that firepower and manpower to start a revolution.

LOL. Any other life changing ideas would like to share?

 

[dankenstien88]

i'm not saying that AT ALL.

i don't know where you got that from.

I said that if you're so aggressive and violent, why don't you go after the rich white people? Eff their homes and families up?

wait what? are you seriously asking why drug dealers don't rob and invade rich folks homes?

that's exactly what i'm asking.

Because unlike the movies would have you believe, drug dealers aren't inherently violent animals. They are normal people looking to better their situation and profit off of a product that's in demand. Much of the violence associated with drugs is a direct result of its illegality and clandestine nature of operations. White, black, brown or yellow, the vast majority of people who get shot and robbed are already involved in illicit activity.

The question to ask is how and why do a disproportionate number of certain ethnic groups in certain municipalities become involved in this activity.

 

[am1x90xnike]

I don't think you caught the posts where I suggested we do something like they have in the Netherlands (posted statistical facts supporting said position also). I've said numerous times on this board that I don't think we should abolish the police, but I do think police cause just as much of the violence in these poor neighborhoods as they solve, those are damn near facts and we need to stop blindly accepting that they are a force for good. 

http://scholar.harvard.edu/robertvargas/pages/book-project-1

I've also said it wouldn't stop the problem, but it will help solve some of the basic problems plaguing the community (mass incarceration x poverty).

Now if you really wanted me to formulate a plan that could be both politically feasible and effective I'd be more than happy to post one, as I've thought about how "Hamsterdam" would work on a large scale and some of the effects it would have on the community at large...if you're interested I'll post my ideas, but I'd prefer only to do so if people would actually consider reading it.

 

[hennessy]

I don't think you caught the posts where I suggested we do something like they have in the Netherlands (posted statistical facts supporting said position also). I've said numerous times on this board that I don't think we should abolish the police, but I do think police cause just as much of the violence in these poor neighborhoods as they solve, those are damn near facts and we need to stop blindly accepting that they are a force for good. 

http://scholar.harvard.edu/robertvargas/pages/book-project-1

I've also said it wouldn't stop the problem, but it will help solve some of the basic problems plaguing the community (mass incarceration x poverty).

Now if you really wanted me to formulate a plan that could be both politically feasible and effective I'd be more than happy to post one, as I've thought about how "Hamsterdam" would work on a large scale and some of the effects it would have on the community at large...if you're interested I'll post my ideas, but I'd prefer only to do so if people would actually consider reading it.

Please save yourself the effort. I'm not interested, nor qualified, to read a formulated plan of that nature. Because I'm assuming this would be a lengthy document filled with supplemental data, facts, research on the political ideologies of various groups, dense legal terminology I wouldn't quite understand, etc... Not to mention all the work that would have to go in prior to formulating such a plan. Something so serious isn't mean for a quick post on NT. I'm sure you have ideas about how it could work. But are you really qualified to write a formulated plan that would engage your intended audiences and have them actually think that it would be feasible? If you are, tell someone other than me. Because if it really could work it'd be great to solve some of the problems. Seems like a work of fiction for now.

 

[stillin729]

too many NTers think Killa Season is real life

 

[L7oser]

This is some of the dumbest **** I've ever read.

Fixed