Fast food workers protest for $15 minimum wage.

bruh, you know how many useless jobs we have just to try and help the unemployment rate.
 .. bank tellers arent need. i expect them to be automated shortly. 
telemarketers
paparrazi
street sign holders
politicians
toll booth attendants. 
etc etc. so many useless jobs. 

toll booth attendants make good money and have state benefits, i use to always wonder my sister told me because when she went to school in NJ she told me she knew some ppl, or like somebody mother who was a Toll Attendant. I was like dammmmmmmmmn

Toll-Booth Attendant
Toll-booth attendants are reported to earn an average annual salary of $45,000 per year. This salary exceeds the national average, which is notable considering that this job is relatively low-skilled and requires no post-secondary education. It is also reported that the highest paid toll-booth operator salary in Maine in 2009 was $76,219, which is an impressive 85% more than the national average annual salary.

cite: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-High-Paid-Public-Service-investopedia-3774083175.html
 
no one in NYC can survive making $8.75


instead of being upset that they passed a law that reflects how much it costs to NYC (you barely surviving with $15 too) why not be upset that whoever you are working for isn't paying you enough


I see people upset because they have a degree and making $15, the problem isn't ppl in McDonalds making as much as you .. that's not the problem at all


thats the point.. if you make $8.75/hour you shouldnt be living in NYC...

So they should move huh? With what money? :lol:

$15/hr is nothing in NYC
 
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$15 also has a negative effect on other buisnesses.

Joes Crab shack no longer allows their employes to accept tips. Instead, they pay them $15 an hour.

The issue comes up when there were waiters/waitresses that made MORE than $15 an hour because of tips. The waiter we had during the all you can eat crab legs deal told us that he regularly walked out of work making on average $125 in tips (Plus the $3.50 they made per hour from the company). Thats about $19 an hour PLUS the cash tips they received were not being reported for tax purposes. (they were supposed to enter how much they made themselves, but rarely did that happen).

Now, they`re stuck making $15 an hour no matter what. If they accept a tip and do not give it to management to be placed in a pool of all tips received that are then donated to a local charity, then they`re fired.


Folks dont realize that this is bigger than Mcdonalds. Folks that DONT make $15 will quit whatever job it is that they`re working at to work at the fast food place, which will then keep all the teenagers that need work experience from being able to get a job they need to simply have work experience.

Reality will catch up EXTREMELY fast..............and i didnt even get into the replacing of employees and removing of shifts and raising of prices. Its crazy.
 
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$15 also has a negative effect on other buisnesses.

Joes Crab shack no longer allows their employes to accept tips. Instead, they pay them $15 an hour.

The issue comes up when there were waiters/waitresses that made MORE than $15 an hour because of tips. The waiter we had during the all you can eat crab legs deal told us that he regularly walked out of work making on average $125 in tips (Plus the $3.50 they made per hour from the company). Thats about $19 an hour PLUS the cash tips they received were not being reported for tax purposes. (they were supposed to enter how much they made themselves, but rarely did that happen).

Now, they`re stuck making $15 an hour no matter what. If they accept a tip and do not give it to management to be placed in a pool of all tips received that are then donated to a local charity, then they`re fired.


Folks dont realize that this is bigger than Mcdonalds. Folks that DONT make $15 will quit whatever job it is that they`re working at to work at the fast food place, which will then keep all the teenagers that need work experience from being able to get a job they need to simply have work experience.

Reality will catch up EXTREMELY fast..............and i didnt even get into the replacing of employees and removing of shifts and raising of prices. Its crazy.
no they wont.
 
When I made 11 bucks at a call center I sure as **** would've. (America is huge with many cities and different economies if some of you don't get it). That's not a negative though, forces companies to now be competitive.
 
When I made 11 bucks at a call center I sure as **** would've. (America is huge with many cities and different economies if some of you don't get it). That's not a negative though, forces companies to now be competitive.
it does force them to be competitive, but whats going to keep them from raising the prices on their products to offset the cost? Every company will do it........changes will be across the board.

Walmart gave raises too.........and peep what happened.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-walmarts-pay-raises-are-backfiring/


It took me four four years to get to $10.80. When minimum wage goes up we don't receive a pay increase unless we are under the minimum," one worker wrote in a comment on Walmart's corporate blog. "Now our 2 newest associates are making $10.75 and my annual raise is going from 40 cents down to 26 cents. Apparently experience does't get rewarded."

Under Walmart's pay hike, all current workers are slated to earn at least $9 an hour, or $1.75 higher than the federal minimum wage of $7.25. Next February, wages will rise to at least $10 an hour. New hires are also now starting at $9 an hour and moving to $10 an hour in 2016, which is one reason why more senior employees are feeling burned.

"You work someplace for five or 10 years, and you get these raises that are cents per hour -- then the company does this thing they get praised for, but you aren't seeing a benefit from that," Mackenzie Barris, a field organizer for Jobs With Justice, a worker rights nonprofit whose campaigns include Change Walmart, told CBS MoneyWatch. "Of course you'll feel that's not fair."

One employee wrote on Walmart's blog that she does "not appreciate" receiving the same pay as a new worker. "What incentive do I get for my experience and knowledge?" she wrote.

Some employees told Bloomberg News they believe their hours have been cut and annual raises lowered in order to pay for the higher wages for new workers. The company told the news organization that it's making sure all workers have the chance to step into higher-paying positions.

Whether Walmart executives should have foreseen the hard feelings caused by its uneven pay raises is debatable. On the one hand, the company had been under pressure from labor activists and policy makers to boost its pay, given that many of its workers are forced to rely on public assistance to make ends meet.

As America's largest private employer, more than 1.3 million people work at its stores, meaning that any pay increase will likely have a positive impact on thousands of families and communities.


This is whats going to happen.................When **** hits the fan
 
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If they`re making $9 an hour somewhere, why wouldnt they go make $15 doing something as easy as taking an order, flipping burgers or mopping a floor? Shiddddd.
Depending on how many hours you work ,15 an hr part time is equivalent to 10 an hr. full time. Plus you save yourself the embarrassment of smelling like fried grease. 
 
$15 also has a negative effect on other buisnesses.

Joes Crab shack no longer allows their employes to accept tips. Instead, they pay them $15 an hour.

The issue comes up when there were waiters/waitresses that made MORE than $15 an hour because of tips. The waiter we had during the all you can eat crab legs deal told us that he regularly walked out of work making on average $125 in tips (Plus the $3.50 they made per hour from the company). Thats about $19 an hour PLUS the cash tips they received were not being reported for tax purposes. (they were supposed to enter how much they made themselves, but rarely did that happen).

Now, they`re stuck making $15 an hour no matter what. If they accept a tip and do not give it to management to be placed in a pool of all tips received that are then donated to a local charity, then they`re fired.


Folks dont realize that this is bigger than Mcdonalds. Folks that DONT make $15 will quit whatever job it is that they`re working at to work at the fast food place, which will then keep all the teenagers that need work experience from being able to get a job they need to simply have work experience.

Reality will catch up EXTREMELY fast..............and i didnt even get into the replacing of employees and removing of shifts and raising of prices. Its crazy.
most people who work at mcd arent teenagers.... teenagers usually cant work during the day. at the mcdonalds i frequent majority of the workers are older people. 
 
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Oh ya'll thought I was trippin huh 
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You cats making 50 and 60k at Verizon on your way sqout soon too.
 
The fact that people are saying employees shouldn't get livable wages because "it hurts business owners" and "they'll just get machines to do your job"

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The fact that people are saying employees shouldn't get livable wages because "it hurts business owners" and "they'll just get machines to do your job"

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Yeah man, people need to grow up and learn to work 80+ hours a week until they make it big. You just gotta work hard enough!! Corporations need those high profits!! /s
 
Oh ya'll thought I was trippin huh :lol:

You cats making 50 and 60k at Verizon on your way sqout soon too.

lol! I'm not mad at that because they should not be making $60k to slang phone plans, especially when technology can replace that task with less hassle and less "hey hey! My man with the iPhone...come here real quick let me holla at you!" [emoji]128527[/emoji]

Most people can live off $25k a year roughly if they save, not spend frivolously, utilize mass transportation, etc.

The trick is to make way more and still live like you only make $25k...that's when you really see the fruits of your labor.
 
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The America worker's ability to divide and subdivide his or her fellow workers is truly remarkable. The 1% will keep on winning as long as the 99% hates each other so passionately. Every online discussion about raising the minimum wage brings out the 30k millionaire brigade in force. There is almost palpable glee from the legions of underpaid pharmacy techs, EMTs and car salesmen when a kiosk, any where on Earth pops up in a fast food place because we all know that "burger flippers" deserve to be punished for their greed.

In the aggregate, of course, minimum wage hikes never behave like an Econ 1 book predicts. Most labor markets are not especially competitive and most employers enjoy monopsony power so increases in minimum wage have little or no disemployment effects. Furthermore, most firms are already fairly well automated so mass automation is not really a recourse available to most employers.

In real life, in this country at least, increases in minimum wage mean a very small decrease in employment, a very small increase in prices. The two biggest changes are an increase in pay and a decrease in profits. The latter is why business elites campaign so hard against raising the minimum wage and the former is why every lower middle class worker in America hates minimum hikes, they work, they make life better for the people one rung lower on the totem pole.
 
lol! I'm not mad at that because they should not be making $60k to slang phone plans, especially when technology can replace that task with less hassle and less "hey hey! My man with the iPhone...come here real quick let me holla at you!" [emoji]128527[/emoji]

Most people can live off $25k a year roughly if they save, not spend frivolously, utilize mass transportation, etc.

The trick is to make way more and still live like you only make $25k...that's when you really see the fruits of your labor.
Nah, I aint talkin the middle of the mall kiosk slangers.

My BM been in the industry for years and I'm baffled at how much simple sales associates make at AT&T and Verizon if your at a high volume store. 
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The America worker's ability to divide and subdivide his or her fellow workers is truly remarkable. The 1% will keep on winning as long as the 99% hates each other so passionately. Every online discussion about raising the minimum wage brings out the 30k millionaire brigade in force. There is almost palpable glee from the legions of underpaid pharmacy techs, EMTs and car salesmen when a kiosk, any where on Earth pops up in a fast food place because we all know that "burger flippers" deserve to be punished for their greed.

In the aggregate, of course, minimum wage hikes never behave like an Econ 1 book predicts. Most labor markets are not especially competitive and most employers enjoy monopsony power so increases in minimum wage have little or no disemployment effects. Furthermore, most firms are already fairly well automated so mass automation is not really a recourse available to most employers.

In real life, in this country at least, increases in minimum wage mean a very small decrease in employment, a very small increase in prices. The two biggest changes are an increase in pay and a decrease in profits. The latter is why business elites campaign so hard against raising the minimum wage and the former is why every lower middle class worker in America hates minimum hikes, they work, they make life better for the people one rung lower on the totem pole.

-This so much. :smokin

Folk taking pride in telling others to be happy with their crumbs, because they have to make due with my scraps, and never once do they consider that maybe he should make the 1 percenters share of that 7 course meal they got in front of them.

-25K in nothing, a single person can barely have a decent life making that, and not to mention with inflation they are getting a pay cut every year. Yet somehow the only answer people have to that is................umm.......bootstraps

-Everyone loves to play junior economist and strictly talk about "a minimum wage kills jobs". That by itself it true but their is flip side to it also:

If people are getting paid **** wages, they most likely have a **** life. They are under nourished, overworked because they probably work multiple jobs, stressed, and not well rested. This all decreases productivity.

Pay people a better wage, they can support themselves more and be more productive. More productive workers will lead to increase revenues and that would likely offset their wage increase.

Not only that, the minimum wage is so low now that raise to around $10 won't wipe out jobs like people swear it will. So all the doom and gloom is unwarranted

-------Now, to compound to this that people not only want to keep wages low, they all want to cut the social safety too. So worker at the bottom gotta fight for their life to "make" it

-I wonder when the table turns, and it is a "free trade" agreement sending someone's jobs overseas, they are this sympathetic to the needs of a corporation.

-Or when another recession wipes out their job, yet the corporation gets a bailout and they are left to "bootstrap", that they are this sympathetic to the needs of a corporation

-Or when the healthy pool of middle class consumers start to dry up, and their job is in peril, that they are this sympathetic to the needs of a corporation outsourcing their job

This is the new America Dream apparently, where killing yourself in hopes of make 50K a year , so you have the privilege kick the next man on his way up.

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The robots are coming regardless, the talking point that they are now a response to folk wanting decent wages because companies "have no other choice" is simply no true.

And once again people focus only on the substitution effect and never consider the scale effect.

Yes robots will replace SOME workers, but they will also increase production, increases in production leads to increases in revenue which leads to not only more investment in capital (in this case the robots) but also labor.

Plus I seriously doubt every robot coming will be a perfect substitute for a worker. Some may, but many others will probably be complements.

And then the same story plays out, more production, more revenue, higher profits, and more workers being hired.

There was a lot of doom and gloom about computers replacing people in the early 1990s, and look how that turned out; or look at how mobile tech has expanded our economy and lead to increases in production.

--------BTW; I'm not in favor of $15 minimum wage. But I think the currently state of affairs is appalling.

I would:

-Set it like around $10.10,

-Greatly extend the EIC (thank you for at least this good idea Milton Friedman) through closing tax loopholes, taxing capital gains properly, cutting tax credits for upper middle class and wealthy (ain't no reason you should be able to right off the interest on your mansion) and cutting corporate welfare.

-Cut, uncap, and put progressive rates on payroll taxes

-Cut sales taxes and extend them to services.

-Repel most of the business friendly things in the Taft Hartley Act

-Switch to a single payer health system. If folk can't swallow that: Merge Medicare and Medicaid. If conservatives want to be so heartless against the working poor, they gonna have to screw over the old too. Lemme see how many of those clown governors would be willing to say that openly come election time

-Construct a supplementary quality public transportation system, so that poor folk seriously don't have to rely on cars, target in places of great need. Opening up the options for many workers, and crushes the monopsony power that constraint on workers to firms

-And get my Roosevelt and try my best to undo all the rent seeking policies killing competition in our economy.

-In return, run Uncle Sam like 10% of that money companies got stashed overseas one time, and we never tax money made overseas again.

So there, poor and middle class people get a pay increase, get a valuable benefit, the cost are spread out. Best of all these programs are progressive most everyone will benefit from them..........or we can just keep things they way they are and you know....... bootstraps :rolleyes
 
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