NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[jjs07]

serious question...should the skins trade rg3 and get some key players or draft picks and hand the keys to cousins?

Serious question...why give up on a QB when he hasn't even played his 3rd year yet?

Would be absolutely moronic, for reasons that I listed a few pages back, to give the keys to the offense to Kirk ******* Cousins.

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

It's unreal what people see in backups around the NFL. Geez. You are what you are. Cousins has been below average in his starts. Please stop

That's the bottom line.

Griffin needs to have a bounce back year, but he was playing last season on one leg. Even on that one leg he was 1000x better than Cousins. Cousins is a capable BACKUP. Nothing more, nothing less.

if im the skins i use this season to make a decision long term on him. if he has a horrid season and the skins dont see him long term, why wouldnt they get something for him before his value drops? looks like shanny was on point with drafting another qb that year. im not saying cousins is the answer im saying if it seems rg3 cant get it together this season and possible next season why not get something when his stock is still up? these next 2 seasons will tell.

Gruden did some good things with Andy Dalton. You give RG3 at the minimum, 2 years (under Gruden) to see what his trajectory is. It would be beyond foolish and moronic for the Skins to give up on Griffin this early. He had arguably the best rookie season ever for a QB, was beyond "meh" in year 2, so let's see what happens this year. I'm not going to overreact to him not playing well in the preseason. If my memory serves me right, he was pretty bad in the 2012 preseason as well. It doesn't mean a lot. As I've said all along, if his shaky play continues into week 3/4 into the regular season then you can raise your eyebrows. Traditionally, year 3 is where you see what type of QB you have. I'm HOPING that Griffin regains his form and can show that he's the Skins franchise player going forward. I'm hoping that Griffin can have a 2/1 TD/INT ratio and at the minimum, close to 4000 yards passing, and lead the team to an 8-8 record (at worst). There shouldn't be too many excuses as this has been about as drama-free of an offseason that we've had in DC in quite some time.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

How would you compare lamichael vs barner vs dat?

Honestly, there isn't much separating Barner and LMJ. They both have a tendency to bounce things outside, and can't really run through contact. Barner is shiftier than LMJ, but a tad bit slower.

DAT is completely different than both of them. He's more of a Dexter McCluster-type guy. Speed for days, doesn't have great footwork, but has really solid hands.

Basically, all 3 suck.

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[jumpmanfromdabay]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

 

[CP1708]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

They live up to mine.

 

[larry david]

 

I wonder how Skins fans will feel about Shanahan if RG3 sucks this year

**** Shanahan

Skids fans always end up hating their coaches... stay blaming the wrong people.

 

[Deleted member 37754]

[COLOR=#red]CP hates Oregon... always funny when draft season comes around. Gonna be funny come Marcus Mariota number 1 overall talk.[/COLOR]

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

Just the offensive players... which is kinda funny.

Defensive players and o-line have been great. Ngata, Byrd, Ward, Kiko, Thurmond, Unger, Long.

 

[carver]

 

 

I wonder how Skins fans will feel about Shanahan if RG3 sucks this year

**** Shanahan

Skids fans always end up hating their coaches... stay blaming the wrong people.

Aye at least he drafted Kirk too

 

[herbshuttles15]

I have no problems with Oregon players except for Patrick Chung, he can suck two *****

 

[DeadsetAce]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

Just the offensive players... which is kinda funny.

Defensive players and o-line have been great. Ngata, Byrd, Ward, Kiko, Thurmond, Unger, Long.

Chung...oh nevermind


nah defensive players usually solid. i'm just bitter we got the one lame duck

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

Just the offensive players... which is kinda funny.

Defensive players and o-line have been great. Ngata, Byrd, Ward, Kiko, Thurmond, Unger, Long.

Chung...oh nevermind


nah defensive players usually solid. i'm just bitter we got the one lame duck

He showed flashes, but just like in college... for every good play, he'd follow it up with blown coverage/missed tackle.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Mamba gonna eat in KC

Oregon players never live up to expectations

Just the offensive players... which is kinda funny.

Defensive players and o-line have been great. Ngata, Byrd, Ward, Kiko, Thurmond, Unger, Long.

Chung...oh nevermind


nah defensive players usually solid. i'm just bitter we got the one lame duck

He showed flashes, but just like in college... for every good play, he'd follow it up with blown coverage/missed tackle.

yeah for sure. i remember his rookie year with us, in the preseason he blocked a punt or fg in his first or second game. had people HYPED. he's good supporting the run, but the coverage skills...god damn. terrible.

 

[herbshuttles15]

That fake punt in the playoffs :x

 

[larry david]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chung...oh nevermind

nah defensive players usually solid. i'm just bitter we got the one lame duck

He showed flashes, but just like in college... for every good play, he'd follow it up with blown coverage/missed tackle.

yeah for sure. i remember his rookie year with us, in the preseason he blocked a punt or fg in his first or second game. had people HYPED. he's good supporting the run, but the coverage skills...god damn. terrible.

It could be worse. 

Lawd, it could be so much worse 

 

[licensed to ball]

Looks like the Matt Shaub experiment worked out wonderfully

 

[Chester McFloppy]

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[Peep Game]

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[buc em]

Schaub just looks like he has issues.

So are they gonna announce the ruling on Josh Gordon like an hour before the first game or what?

 

[Chester McFloppy]

@AlbertBreer 3m
Since his Heisman season of 2008, Sam Bradford has missed 41 of 93 games due to injury, at Oklahoma and with the Rams.

 

[CP1708]

I said all thru the Draft process, the Rams should and would be looking QB, especially if Mariota came out, and deepened the QB pool.

The Rams didn't listen.


Now they have to flag their first round pick next year for QB, and pay Bradford's salary for this year.

 

[sb]

serious question...should the skins trade rg3 and get some key players or draft picks and hand the keys to cousins?

Serious question...why give up on a QB when he hasn't even played his 3rd year yet?

Would be absolutely moronic, for reasons that I listed a few pages back, to give the keys to the offense to Kirk ******* Cousins.

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

It's unreal what people see in backups around the NFL. Geez. You are what you are. Cousins has been below average in his starts. Please stop

That's the bottom line.

Griffin needs to have a bounce back year, but he was playing last season on one leg. Even on that one leg he was 1000x better than Cousins. Cousins is a capable BACKUP. Nothing more, nothing less.

if im the skins i use this season to make a decision long term on him. if he has a horrid season and the skins dont see him long term, why wouldnt they get something for him before his value drops? looks like shanny was on point with drafting another qb that year. im not saying cousins is the answer im saying if it seems rg3 cant get it together this season and possible next season why not get something when his stock is still up? these next 2 seasons will tell.

Gruden did some good things with Andy Dalton. You give RG3 at the minimum, 2 years (under Gruden) to see what his trajectory is. It would be beyond foolish and moronic for the Skins to give up on Griffin this early. He had arguably the best rookie season ever for a QB, was beyond "meh" in year 2, so let's see what happens this year. I'm not going to overreact to him not playing well in the preseason. If my memory serves me right, he was pretty bad in the 2012 preseason as well. It doesn't mean a lot. As I've said all along, if his shaky play continues into week 3/4 into the regular season then you can raise your eyebrows. Traditionally, year 3 is where you see what type of QB you have. I'm HOPING that Griffin regains his form and can show that he's the Skins franchise player going forward. I'm hoping that Griffin can have a 2/1 TD/INT ratio and at the minimum, close to 4000 yards passing, and lead the team to an 8-8 record (at worst). There shouldn't be too many excuses as this has been about as drama-free of an offseason that we've had in DC in quite some time.

show us what you got rg3

Looks like the Matt Shaub experiment worked out wonderfully

carr

 

[flyerthandelta]

While most NFL fans talking about the flags on def but im here to address that most starting Qbs will get hurt and miss significant amount of time folks looking like glass out here

 

[IATT]

whelp, fisher you're our only hope.. matt barkley, going need you to light up the jets on thursday

http://deadspin.com/report-mark-sanchez-would-rather-ride-the-bench-than-p-1626541874

 

[Chester McFloppy]

carr

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[sb]

carr

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meanwhile the santa clara field crew