NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

Status
Not open for further replies.
That's like 1 of the beat writers here in the bay trashing the raiders for the DJ Hayden pick when he "respected the pick" when they selected him :lol:
 
Damn, it's been 10 years since the pats won their last one. Obviously none after spygate but that's just beating a dead horse.

Why would they win 1 now?

On another note, if Peyton were to get hurt, I would still kinda be confident is osweiler.



Half srs.
 
Damn, it's been 10 years since the pats won their last one. Obviously none after spygate but that's just beating a dead horse.

Why would they win 1 now?

On another note, if Peyton were to get hurt, I would still kinda be confident is osweiler.



Half srs.

I mean what's preventing them from contending for more? How long ago you won your last doesn't matter. And I believe their regular season win% has gone up since Spygate so I'm not putting that as a reason to not win.
 
I mean what's preventing them from contending for more? How long ago you won your last doesn't matter. And I believe their regular season win% has gone up since Spygate so I'm not putting that as a reason to not win.

you're making too much sense. repped.
 
Wouldn't the counter argument be they aren't winning the 'big game' anymore in the post season? Not saying that is the reason but I would assume that is how I'd counter
 
This Bucs/Pats trade will either go very well, or it'll be a classic Pats trade where the the Pats benefit and Bucs get screwed. I wouldn't be surprised if Mankins somehow has his worst season ever.


Atwater
Sharpe
Elway
Davis
Lynch
McCaffery
Smith
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

Brett Favre losing and Jamal Anderson eating dirt :smokin :smokin

did we just become best friends?

sean-p.gif
 
Chip Kelly has to be top 10.

Off of one year?


Nah.

Andy Reid is 4


In that one year, his QB coach was hired to be the OC for another team and countless teams have spoken about integrating what they perceive to be his concepts into their organization, team and offense

And let's not forget the coaches who specifically went to him to learn from and work with

Then maclin goes down in camp and we have a carousel at QB for most of the start of the season (foles took ove in week 10 and finished the season).. Then pro bowlers have the years of their career (shady and desean).. And guys become pro bowlers or borderline guys (foles and cooper)
 
Last edited:
I mean what's preventing them from contending for more? How long ago you won your last doesn't matter. And I believe their regular season win% has gone up since Spygate so I'm not putting that as a reason to not win.

you're making too much sense. repped.

but peyton gets dragged through the mud for his good seasons and postseason shortcomings. why should the pats be treated any different? :nerd:

Atwater
Sharpe
Elway
Davis
Lynch
McCaffery
Smith
:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

Brett Favre losing and Jamal Anderson eating dirt :smokin :smokin

did we just become best friends?

sean-p.gif

halfway there to becoming best e-friends :smokin
 
I mean what's preventing them from contending for more? How long ago you won your last doesn't matter. And I believe their regular season win% has gone up since Spygate so I'm not putting that as a reason to not win.

you're making too much sense. repped.

but peyton gets dragged through the mud for his good seasons and postseason shortcomings. why should the pats be treated any different? :nerd:

we're talking just about the impact of spy gate on the pats ability to win games. they've actually become a stronger and more consistent team after it (in terms of winning). they're still constantly making deep playoff runs. no superbowls, of course. but they've been back twice and lost thanks to a miraculous helmet catch and a wes welker drop (not blaming welker, but that is how close that game was to going the other way).

and peyton gets dragged through the mud because of the post season INTs and pick 6's. it's been a constant throughout his playoff career.
 
I need this to be said so I can stop reading it on this board. Seahawk fans, jot this down.

Russell Wilson, "only 3rd QB ever to throw 50 TD's his first two years"


Stop saying that like it means something. It doesn't.

Throwing TD's in 2012 and 2013 is NOT like throwing TD's in 1987 or 88. Or 93 or 94. Or 99 and 2000.


STOP USING THAT LAME *** BAROMETER. Please.


Quarterbacks, TODAY, get to start from day 1. That was not the case for Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, etc.

You have a kid that gets the team on day 1, and gets to throw in an era where receivers have free run of the field. Every other QB for the past 75 years hasn't had that. QB's the last 5, do.

Stop using that stat like it's meaningful.


It's called perspective. If you need help, try this:


Dan Marino yards his first two years 7,294
Ryan Tannehill yards his first two years 7,207


Anyone that regurgitates that stupid *** stat about Wilson, 3rd QB, etc etc needs to log off for a while and rethink things.

Thank you.
 
 
 
Chip Kelly has to be top 10.
Off of one year?


Nah.
Andy Reid is 4


In that one year, his QB coach was hired to be the OC for another team and countless teams have spoken about integrating what they perceive to be his concepts into their organization, team and offense

And let's not forget the coaches who specifically went to him to learn from and work with

Then maclin goes down in camp and we have a carousel at QB for most of the start of the season (foles took ove in week 10 and finished the season).. Then pro bowlers have the years of their career (shady and desean).. And guys become pro bowlers or borderline guys (foles and cooper)
It's still one year in which the Eagles made the playoffs the last game of the season, by default.
 
Anyone that uses passing statsof today in a historical reference and comparison is a fool. Have to use perspective and context
 
I need this to be said so I can stop reading it on this board. Seahawk fans, jot this down.

Russell Wilson, "only 3rd QB ever to throw 50 TD's his first two years"


Stop saying that like it means something. It doesn't.

Throwing TD's in 2012 and 2013 is NOT like throwing TD's in 1987 or 88. Or 93 or 94. Or 99 and 2000.


STOP USING THAT LAME *** BAROMETER. Please.


Quarterbacks, TODAY, get to start from day 1. That was not the case for Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, etc.

You have a kid that gets the team on day 1, and gets to throw in an era where receivers have free run of the field. Every other QB for the past 75 years hasn't had that. QB's the last 5, do.

Stop using that stat like it's meaningful.


It's called perspective. If you need help, try this:


Dan Marino yards his first two years 7,294
Ryan Tannehill yards his first two years 7,207


Anyone that regurgitates that stupid *** stat about Wilson, 3rd QB, etc etc needs to log off for a while and rethink things.

Thank you.

Wilson isn't the first quarterback to be a rookie in the new era.

The butthurt is certainly palpable though.
 
Last edited:
 
It's still one year in which the Eagles made the playoffs the last game of the season, by default.
agreed.. but he's a better coach than andy reid RIGHT NOW..

now based off of previous resume sure.. but if that's the case mike shanahan should be above him too
 
Anyone that uses passing statsof today in a historical reference and comparison is a fool. Have to use perspective and context

Word. These young QBs like Dalton and Wilson on these All-Time TD lists speaks to how much the game has changed :lol: :smh:

I think both guys are very good QBs in this league, though.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom