NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[freddie black]

I am very disappointed that the NFL and its hearing office didn't exercise better discretion and judgment in my case.

This is the part of his statement that leads me to believe his camp will be pursuing some sort of legal action.

 

[651akathepaul]

That game between Pitt and Browns week 1 may be a struggle fest

Ok, dmx...I gotta ask now, because it seems like you're not very high on the Steelers this year. Is it because you really think they aren't very good or because you're trying on some reverse psychology/low expectations then feel good when they exceed that type of deal?

 

[sb]

I mean what's preventing them from contending for more? How long ago you won your last doesn't matter. And I believe their regular season win% has gone up since Spygate so I'm not putting that as a reason to not win.

you're making too much sense. repped.

but peyton gets dragged through the mud for his good seasons and postseason shortcomings. why should the pats be treated any different?

we're talking just about the impact of spy gate on the pats ability to win games. they've actually become a stronger and more consistent team after it (in terms of winning). they're still constantly making deep playoff runs. no superbowls, of course. but they've been back twice and lost thanks to a miraculous helmet catch and a wes welker drop (not blaming welker, but that is how close that game was to going the other way).

and peyton gets dragged through the mud because of the post season INTs and pick 6's. it's been a constant throughout his playoff career.

they've actually become a stronger and more consistent team after it (in terms of winning).

Their division being a free ride to the playoffs (and six free wins) for the last decade makes them look 'stronger' than they are.

this. props for the deep playoff runs. lulz at using season wins when the division is the a.f.least.

 

[nick.]

Good. It's not even about the weed at this point. It's about being a responsible, working adult and not a ******* moron. Rules are rules, just because you had a monster season doesn't excuse you.

All of this.

 

[denni5themenace]

Gordon on his own like that for that long a period sounds like a recipe for disaster.

this is what worries me the most.

 

[dmxfury]

Ok, dmx...I gotta ask now, because it seems like you're not very high on the Steelers this year. Is it because you really think they aren't very good or because you're trying on some reverse psychology/low expectations then feel good when they exceed that type of deal?

I don't think they are very good. D line isn't strong enough to stop the run, DBs are horrendous which is recipe for losing in this league. LBs are solid. Offensively they have good talent but Haley's predictable and stale offense loves to see third downs and punts IMO. Ben is great at scrambling out of trouble and finding the guy way down field. Now he scrambles and has a choice of receivers 5-10 yards away and has to finesse the ball. And Tomlin/Rooneys stick with him at OC for some unknown reason

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Gordon on his own like that for that long a period sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Hopefully he gets it together.

Unfair to the Browns, the fans, and everyone else.

C'mon man.


Tell dude don't put himself in this position and they won't have to deal with **** like this.

 

[rook]

idc its not fair at all when a women beater gets 2 measly games and a dude gets an entire season. bs

 

[finallyfamous]

So it's fair to Josh Gordon that he is suspended one full year starting today so HE CAN NOT participate in next years Training Camp and Pre-season??

Oh okay.

That dude quoting my post like I am anti this suspension.

That doesn't bother me.... the timing does though. That's all.

 

[Animal Thug]

100% unfair to the Browns organization and the fans.

No reason at all to allow this to drag out to 11 days before the season starts, if they knew all along he'd be getting the full year ban. It's not even about the weed or Josh Gordon anymore - the NFL showed incompetence in announcing a ruling that wouldn't jeopardize anything beyond the 2014 season.

He misses all of next years training camp, preventing him to progress in any way beyond this season. That's totally unfair, and I hope to God Josh Gordon and his legal team take legal action for this. Also, to not allow him access to the teams practice facitilty or be around any teammates or team events is even more devistating.

Do they now expect Josh Gordon to walk the straight line, and avoid any complications without having team or staff support?

What a mess. Roger Goodell is truly showing the incompetence of how the NFL works with certain cases.

And how long before we see a change in weed violation and rulings going forward? A month or two? Without the ability to retroactive any previous rulings to enable Josh to become completely off the hook with marijuana.

What a joke. I was literally hours away from ordering the NFL league pass for the whole season - to hell with that. I just pray to a god that Josh and his team take legal action. This is a complete joke.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

 

[dmxfury]

It's not like this is the first case to be ruled so late though. Kinda standard for the NFL, they drag their feet quite often with these. Not saying it is right but it isn't without precedent

 

[DeadsetAce]

@ people crying about fairness

 

[finallyfamous]

@ people thinking people are crying about fairness.

 

[dmxfury]

I'm all for not getting the league pass but not because a suspension was upheld

 

[fraij da 5 11]

@ people thinking people are crying about fairness.

Well, theres this...

 100% unfair to the Browns organization and the fans.

 

[finallyfamous]

Wouldn't that be a person instead of people?

 

[nooera]

this. props for the deep playoff runs. lulz at using season wins when the division is the a.f.least.

So now Peyton's regular season wins dont count because he played in the AFC South ? So Peyton is mediocre in the regular season AND the playoffs now? Got it

This is the NFL boys. Every team is good and a W is a W. Stop trying to discredit long-lasting success based on strength of schedule. That is laughable.

 

[dmxfury]

AT also said unfair so even the semantics argument doesn't work

 

[do work son]

I thought he was already suspended for the year, and they just announced that its being upheld and not reduced? Is that not the case?

 

[finallyfamous]

AT also said unfair so even the semantics argument doesn't work

It's not even September and I already don't like you and your tone.

 

[freddie black]

I thought he was already suspended for the year, and they just announced that its being upheld and not reduced? Is that not the case?

Yes, the league already suspended him for one season. This was the arbiter's decision to deny his appeal.

 

[100027]

The delay is kind of unfair if it makes him miss training camp.

 

[Animal Thug]

Wouldn't that be a person instead of people?

Dude you fall for the bait on NT more than anyone I've ever seen. But I shouldn't be expecting much from someone who just joined this community 3 years ago.

 

[dmxfury]

It's not even September and I already don't like you and your tone.

FF, you are all good with me as long as we avoid jokes on debilitating diseases. Otherwise we are going to grab a beer in Cle when I come up there