NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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The NFC West is the best division right now, they have 4 of the best defenses in the NFl, the sb champion, another that has gone on deep playoff runs, the other two have tons of of talenet. The only knock on that division is Sam Bradford.
 
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The NFC South best division is clearly a joke. We all know what the best division is and the top two teams in that division beat the top two teams in the divisional round so that's just foolish talk.

Just read an article on ESPN about Kurt Warner and the HOF. If he gets in first ballot the pro football hall of fame is a joke.
 
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I think Warner deserves to make it. Sure his career is unconventional but he has the 3 highest yardage totals in Super Bowl history. Plus the Super Bowl win and MVP.
 
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NY Mavurs said:
The NFC South is not the best division in football

Makes no sense considering the fact that the Saints and Falcons can't be trusted on the road
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Well minus the awful season the falcons just had...they went 13-3 the previous season..i don't all 13 of those wins were won at the some bub...same can be said for saints in the previous seasons..so yeah that tad bit is false.
 
He has those yardage totals because he was coming from behind. I don't really see him as a hall of famer. He has a ring and I believe he got the MVP in and he my have gotten another in 01. Outside of that he had way too many meh years. His last season in St. Louis was awful as was his season with the Giants if I remember correctly and other than his final two seasons in Zona did he have any good years there? If he gets in I think it's more b/c of his story.
 
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thekidgriffey24 said:
The NFC South best division is clearly a joke. We all know what the best division is and the top two teams in that division beat the top two teams in the divisional round so that's just foolish talk.
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As much as that loss to SF in the playoffs irks me to this day :smh:...I completely agree with this.

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He has those yardage totals because he was coming from behind. I don't really see him as a hall of famer. He has a ring and I believe he got the MVP in and he my have gotten another in 01. Outside of that he had way too many meh years. His last season in St. Louis was awful as was his season with the Giants if I remember correctly and other than his final two seasons in Zona did he have any good years there? If he gets in I think it's more b/c of his story.
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I think Kurt will be a HOFer, but definitely because of the bolded. The extent of the irregularity of his career is his greatest asset IMO.
 
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He has those yardage totals because he was coming from behind. I don't really see him as a hall of famer. He has a ring and I believe he got the MVP in and he my have gotten another in 01. Outside of that he had way too many meh years. His last season in St. Louis was awful as was his season with the Giants if I remember correctly and other than his final two seasons in Zona did he have any good years there? If he gets in I think it's more b/c of his story.
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What do you mean about coming from behind? All three were incredibly close games. Three of the closest Super Bowls ever. With his team leading in the 4th.
 
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100027 said:
What do you mean about coming from behind? All three were incredibly close games. Three of the closest Super Bowls ever. With his team leading in the 4th.
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What were you watching? Against the Pats he was down 3 to 17 going into the 4th and against the Steelers he was down 17-7 at halftime. He had to throw the ball a lot to get back into the game. In the 99 Super Bowl he almost threw 50 passes. Don't let passing yards mislead you.
 
Totally forgot about the west, my fault West hands down is the best division in football.
 
I personally don't get into division pride anymore.

Reminds me to much of the SEC stans that have conference pride even though their team isn't winning anything
 
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SneakerPro said:
I personally don't get into division pride anymore.

Reminds me to much of the SEC stans that have conference pride even though their team isn't winning anything
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I agree. Got a friend who does that SEC ****, when his squad (UGA) wasn't eem gettin in on the run of championships by the conference. But he's a Fal**** fan, so I'd expect no less of him lol

But I could never rep my divisional foes in any way, either ...**** em all. :pimp:
 
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Well I'm a huge Notre Dame fan so I don't care much for conferences, but being a 49er fan, I much prefer being in a good division compared to the NFC west a few years back.
 
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Well minus the awful season the falcons just had...they went 13-3 the previous season..i don't all 13 of those wins were won at the some bub...same can be said for saints in the previous seasons..so yeah that tad bit is false.
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Hard for me to read your illiterate comeback.

That 13-3 season had some Falcons fans fooled.

They almost lost to a rookie QB in Russ Wilson and blew a crazy lead against a Niners team who's QB only started about 9 career games.

Maybe I used the wrong example earlier but the NFC South is definitely not the best division

NFC West>>>>
 
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Matt Ryan & the Falcons are legit fraud status until proven otherwise, nice stats, regular season success, and 1 playoff victory in 6 years.
 
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Every team is a fraud until they win it in my eyes.
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You really need to lower your standards there pal. I hope this theory isn't applied to life. Falcons are complete utter fraud. 1 playoff win in a game they probably shouldn't have won?
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Why do I need to lower my standards?

This narrative of a team climbing the mountain as a team and eventually winning the Super Bowl just isn't always true.

There have been teams that had not a history of postseason success and won Super Bowls.

Just like there have been plenty of teams that win a playoff game or two every years and never win it all.

Winning Super Bowls is all that matters to me.
 
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NY Mavurs said:
Hard for me to read your illiterate comeback.

That 13-3 season had some Falcons fans fooled.

They almost lost to a rookie QB in Russ Wilson and blew a crazy lead against a Niners team who's QB only started about 9 career games.

Maybe I used the wrong example earlier but the NFC South is definitely not the best division

NFC West>>>>
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The NFC west spent enough time sucking the turf of a pigs *** to stock pile on good talent on the draft...

Lol @ shouldn't have won that game..the falcons shouldn't have lost the lead...and if they would've had the right defensive players (like they are putting together now) the Seahawks would've been pounded out harder than Roxy Reynolds.....so here's to your should've could've would've crap.

Sounds like pure hate to me honestly...bub
 
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Why do I need to lower my standards?

This narrative of a team climbing the mountain as a team and eventually winning the Super Bowl just isn't always true.

There have been teams that had not a history of postseason success and won Super Bowls.

Just like there have been plenty of teams that win a playoff game or two every years and never win it all.

Winning Super Bowls is all that matters to me.
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And you're a Lions fan? Not making a joke just asking for clarification.

Who hates on the Falcons? There is literally nothing to hate on. Julio Jones when healthy maybe.
 
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SneakerPro said:
Why do I need to lower my standards?

This narrative of a team climbing the mountain as a team and eventually winning the Super Bowl just isn't always true.

There have been teams that had not a history of postseason success and won Super Bowls.

Just like there have been plenty of teams that win a playoff game or two every years and never win it all.

Winning Super Bowls is all that matters to me.
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And you're a Lions fan? Not making a joke just asking for clarification.

Who hates on the Falcons? There is literally nothing to hate on. Julio Jones when healthy maybe.
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Sure am and a Dallas Mavericks' fan too.

Mavs won 50 games for 11 years straight always were decent but when it comes down to it its championship or bust.

Unless you have a really young team or catastrophic injury I don't see how people are content with their professional team not winning it all.

Like the Mavs 2005-06 season is traumatic to me. I would have preferred to lose in the first round or not have made the playoffs.
 
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Sure am and a Dallas Mavericks' fan too.

Mavs won 50 games for 11 years straight always were decent but when it comes down to it its championship or bust.

Unless you have a really young team or catastrophic injury I don't see how people are content with their professional team not winning it all.

Like the Mavs 2005-06 season is traumatic to me. I would have preferred to lose in the first round or not have made the playoffs.
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No I get where you're coming from. I'm a 49er fan and these last few years of being so close are difficult. The one reason I disagree with you is because what fielding a competitive club does for the younger fans. I'm a 90s kid so I never really saw my Notre Dame Fighting Irish be dominant until 2012, we didn't win it all but it totally revitalized my fandom. It sucks not to win but I wouldn't take the trip through the season back for anything. Same thing with the Niners, 2011 totally revitalized me and the rest of the fan base. We would love to win a championship but no one outside of the players and the rest of the organization should have championship or bust attitudes.
 
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