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There really shouldn't any argument here Wilson is not the best qb in the league
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My only beef with your opinion was that it was based on some arbitrary **** like record in last x amount of games played.
Why you keep just making up arbitrary spans of games played to judge him by?
Ay dog hes 52-19 in his games between 2009 and the end of 2013!!!
im just pointing out his last 16 games, he didnt play a full season last year so im taking his last 16, why you getting so emotional bro i never said he was a bum or anything, just said he isnt the best in the league today...
I just said your "points through 3 quarters" stat is mad stupid
The elite tier is Peyton, Drew, Tom, and Aaron. No one in that group is #1 on everyone's list -- there is no right or wrong choice.
times are changing, im not sayin those guys arent still the elite tier, but pretty soon you will see some different names in that group...
The reason you're one of the worst posters on this forum isn't because you don't like Russell Wilson, it's because instead of carrying conversational threads and posting rebuttals and answers that make sense, you just jump around saying random junk with your fingers in your ears.The Peyton Manning Denver Bronco record setting offense being held to 3 points for 45 minutes, is stupid?
When it is the first time it has happened in over 2 years? A major, major point to the toughness of Seattle's defense, which for some reason Seattle fans want to dismiss, so they can prop up Russ?
Whatever dude.
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The reason you're one of the worst posters on this forum isn't because you don't like Russell Wilson, it's because instead of carrying conversational threads and posting rebuttals and answers that make sense, you just jump around saying random junk with your fingers in your ears.The Peyton Manning Denver Bronco record setting offense being held to 3 points for 45 minutes, is stupid?
When it is the first time it has happened in over 2 years? A major, major point to the toughness of Seattle's defense, which for some reason Seattle fans want to dismiss, so they can prop up Russ?
Whatever dude.
I'll at least make an attempt to answer what you're saying before you pretend you and I were both saying something different. I never said anything negative about the defense. The defense played great. Seattle is a great team because the defense is great. The number of points Denver had through three quarters is not relevant to Russell Wilson's performance. Because Denver scored 20 points and the Seahawks needed 26 points to win the game, Russell Wilson's performance was necessary for them to win the game. Many different parts of a football team contribute simultaneously to a team's victory.
Is that simple/clear enough? I'm waiting for your own off-the-wall intepretation of what I just said.
Russ is an above average quarterback, not elite. I don't think anyone would argue that. I think the argument starts when people try propping Russ into that elite category because "he's beat the other elite QBs." Seems unfair to the team's defense.
Russ is an above average quarterback, not elite. I don't think anyone would argue that. I think the argument starts when people try propping Russ into that elite category because "he's beat the other elite QBs." Seems unfair to the team's defense.
True point.Russ is an above average quarterback, not elite. I don't think anyone would argue that. I think the argument starts when people try propping Russ into that elite category because "he's beat the other elite QBs." Seems unfair to the team's defense.
We haven't really seen too many swing passes to Vareen. I agree, they should be running and connecting on that much more. Instead we're getting the usual telegraphed *** Patriot screen plays that defenses sniff out.DSA + DSK (holy ****, I just now realized the initials after 10 years...) -- what's the deal with Vareen? Is it just the fact that NE can't run the ball in general, injuries, or what?
I expected dude to come out like Danny Woodhead this year and catch like 70-80 balls.
Yes, this is real.Did not play football in high school after suffering from Osgood-Schlatters while playing football in junior high ... Played the tuba as a member of the American Fork High School band ... Turned down multiple music scholarships to serve an LDS church mission after graduating from high school ... Played baseball for the Cavemen ... Knee condition subsided and became a stellar offensive lineman at Snow College.
I think it was more the fact that you think a game ends after 3 quarters.I didn't realize that illustrating how well the defense plays was dumb points. How do I sleep at night?
Seattle fans.
My only beef with your opinion was that it was based on some arbitrary **** like record in last x amount of games played.
Why you keep just making up arbitrary spans of games played to judge him by?
Ay dog hes 52-19 in his games between 2009 and the end of 2013!!!
im just pointing out his last 16 games, he didnt play a full season last year so im taking his last 16, why you getting so emotional bro i never said he was a bum or anything, just said he isnt the best in the league today...
IDC if someone thinks hes the best in the league or not, but you just coming out of the blue with no reasoning other than the Pack is .500 in his last 16.
We haven't really seen too many swing passes to Vareen. I agree, they should be running and connecting on that much more. Instead we're getting the usual telegraphed *** Patriot screen plays that defenses sniff out.
And when they do run something for Vareen out of the backfield...there is usually poor execution on someone's part. Whether it's Brady overthrowing because he expects Shane to be at a certain spot or Vareen not looking up in time. From what I remember, they ran one swing pass to Vareen in the Oakland game and he dropped the pass.
Brady just isn't comfortable with these group of guys. He's in sync with Edelman and that's it. Gronk is coming off the ACL tear and didn't play a single snap in the preseason so I think he needs more time to catch up to speed because he's not the same player right now. It might even take him all of the regular season to get there.
Is Brady in decline? Yes. IMO it's been a bit exaggerated though. He's not THIS bad. The problems really start with this team's atrocious o-line. Easily a bottom five group in the league right now which is ******g pathetic when you consider the circumstances.
I kid you not...the Patriots' current o-line coach was a SPORTS RADIO HOST last year. The players don't **** with him.
Here's the bio of the 26 year old rookie scrub they tabbed to replace Logan Mankins...
Yes, this is real. They traded away their best lineman and replaced him with a Mormon tuba player with a knee condition that came out of something called Snow College.
@Mr Marcus
already alluded to it, but the combo of Kraft being a cheap *** and Belichick doing it THE PATRIOT WAY is a major part of this team's success as a juggernaut...and failures in the postseason.
Man, I've been loading up the yoppa on Bill as a GM for some time now. A couple more underwhelming performances these next few games and I'm letting that ***** sing.
I think it was more the fact that you think a game ends after 3 quarters.I didn't realize that illustrating how well the defense plays was dumb points. How do I sleep at night?
Seattle fans.
Not sure if you pretend to miss the point so often or really just fail to see it.
Hey look I almost pushed you in the direction of saying something that makes sense. You're still wrong, but you almost made a legitimate point.Yes, because that's what I said. That games are over after 3, I said that. You got me, well done.
I didn't have the safety, or the Russ INT in the 4th lined up as an example of how the Broncos got back into the game, which was not a fault of Seattles defense, nope, I didn't have that. Not at all.
But hey, you got me.