NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[rillo561]

that's still true to a degree. he made average guys look pretty damn good.

at 37 years old, he deserves more. and needs more.

Meh he had Moss and welker for years too. All I'm saying you can't have it both ways. Tinkering with the oline was purely an arrogant move IMO. However, I'd be a fool to rule them out.

 

[stillin729]

BB is hanging Brady out there to die; it's 100% on him IMO

 

[DeadsetAce]

he really only had moss for 2.5 years.

2007 - had him
2008 - injured for the year with the ACL
2009 - had him
2010 - week 2 randy basically acts up and gets shipped off

Welker agreed that he's a damn good WR and Brady had him for years...but i mean he's a 5'7" slot guy. that's been Brady's best and most long term WR over the course of his career. that's just ******* great.

 

[proshares]

that's still true to a degree. he made average guys look pretty damn good.

at 37 years old, he deserves more. and needs more.

Meh he had Moss and welker for years too. All I'm saying you can't have it both ways. Tinkering with the oline was purely an arrogant move IMO. However, I'd be a fool to rule them out.

When he's ******* 37 years old, I think that rhetoric from Pats fans and Pats haters go out the window no? They had it their way for years. Tom made WR's exceptional when they were nothing. It's impossible to use that state of mind against Pats fans now when he's been on a clear decline but with absolute trash around him.

 

[jayfiend]

Did Brady make them bum WRs better? Or did them Bum WRs bust their *** for that team?

No matter how good a QB throws it the Bum WR still has to catch it.

I hate that more with less argument.

 

[cruzzz]

The Patriots could have signed Eric Decker, Hakeem Nicks, Golden Tate, Steve Smith, James Jones or Emmanuel Sanders.

Tate and Sanders would have been  nice moves by them. They are both pretty young too, so it wouldn't even be too damaging to the future.

Didn't NE go after Sanders before? Wonder what stopped them this off-season.

 

[stillin729]

Also showed a lot of arrogance assuming Gronk would be the old Gronk

 

[rillo561]

One win away from a super bowl birth last year is a decline? Besides mankins, it's basically the same "trash" as last year right? They got better on defense too. Can't believe how much crying pat fans are doing. Whatever.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

*berth 

 

[rillo561]

*birf

 

[proshares]

I'm not gonna sit here and defend Tom ******* Brady, his spoiled fans or that dump of a state Tom Brady the individual has been in a slow decline since the Giants beat them in 11/12. And yes, he does need more talent around him. Logan Mankins was a gigantic loss that's probably the best left guard in the game and you take him out of a line that gave up 40 sacks WITH him last season.

 

[keel252]

Brady has no WR

 

[statis22]

One win away from a super bowl birth last year is a decline? Besides mankins, it's basically the same "trash" as last year right? They got better on defense too. Can't believe how much crying pat fans are doing. Whatever.

So is it the coaching?

I think Brees is in a slow decline as well.

 

[RyGuy45]

More on the blackout news:

FCC votes to end government approval of NFL blackouts
Yahoo!

The FCC has voted unanimously to end its support of a decades-old rule allowing the NFL to black out games in markets where tickets remain unsold.

The NFL blocks all local broadcasts of games if a team does not sell out before 72 hours of kickoff. The league did so with the FCC's blessing and backing, but Tuesday's 5-0 vote ends that support.

"The sports blackout rules are a bad hangover from the days when barely 40 percent of games sold out and gate receipts were the league's principal source of revenue," FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler recently wrote. "The NFL no longer needs the government's help to remain viable."

Only two games were blacked out by the NFL last season, and none have been this year. The NFL has warned that if the blackout rule is ended, more games could move from broadcast to cable television, an argument that sounds more like a threat than a defense.

It's worth noting that this action does not prohibit the NFL from enforcing blackouts on its own. This merely ends the government backing and support of the practice. However, the NFL could enter into agreements with its broadcast partners that allow for blackouts under certain conditions.

 

[rillo561]

So is it the coaching?

IDK, he did decide not to dress up 2 WR last night.

 

[CP1708]

NE also took a QB literally one pick before we took Jarvis Landry.

If they didn't like Landry, they could have taken Donte Moncrief.


Later, they traded down, and took Bryan Stork, right before Bruce Ellington.

They could have taken Allen Hurns like in round 7 if they wanted.



They had options, but figured they had enough or something? Sometimes I don't know what Bill is up to, I just usually assume it'll work out for them in the end. But that was with age 23 thru 35 Tom Brady. They gotta be smarter than that now.

Then dealing Mankins right before the season.


In hindsight, they should have added a WR in FA, drafted another, and added other pieces on the Oline, all to enhance what is left of Tom, not groom his replacement while Tom is still there.

 

[Hahahaha]

Hakeem Nicks and Emmanual Sanders were cheap too. NE could have gotten them both and still been under the cap....





....I'm happy they didn't.

 

[IATT]

all through the draft there were WRs that could be had.. there were guys who went in the 2nd that had no business being outside of the 1st..

draft was just THAT deep at that position

 

[IATT]

bill likes white WRs, right?!

I know a certain one that may be available.. or do they have to under 6 feet?

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 
bill likes white WRs, right?!

I know a certain one that may be available.. or do they have to under 6 feet?

I seen Bill put out 11 white dudes on offense a few times. 

 

[IATT]

 

 
bill likes white WRs, right?!

I know a certain one that may be available.. or do they have to under 6 feet?

I seen Bill put out 11 white dudes on offense a few times. 

but the WRs are all midgets.. welker, amendola and Edelman

had to go look up how tall Austin collie is, since I forgot about him.. and I could have sworn he was taller, but he's 6' even

 

[proshares]

I wanna give Brees the benefit of the doubt but that's my bias I guess.

But he probably is too.

You can't have a guy thrown 650+ four years in a row, five out of seven, one year with 635 and one where he missed a game and had only 514 and think he'll be top level forever he's on pace for 650 again this year.

 

[al3xis]

Pats personnel at skill spots has always sucked. It's just the line sucks now, too. That's the main issue.

It's been a poorly run team drafting and in FA for a while. Always funny when they roll over picks and you still have people applauding it every spring.

 

[CP1708]

Pats personnel at skill spots has always sucked. It's just the line sucks now, too. That's the main issue.

If you have time, go into the QB thread for a sec. I posted a ton of tweets from someone who has been speaking out on Brady all summer. It's not "just" oline and weapons anymore.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

^ You still in the 518 allen?