NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[100027]

Bro...It is a bygone era. That ESPN is dead and gone and Berman's been getting further and further into senility with each Countdown show he does.

Anyway...It don't matter anymore.

I did like that countdown crew more but the show is probably as foolish as it ever was... It just felt more valuable back then because there wasn't as much internet content to fulfill our hunger for football news/analysis.

 

[stillin729]

Berman is the worst now; he should have tried to reinvent himself years ago

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Definitely envy mountain or central time


Child/house/yard work before game, after game and often during if the Steelers suck

That yard was spotless last year huh?

 

[dmxfury]

How dare you

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I'm just saying.




My team was worse

 

[don draper swag]

I thought Megatron actually had a shot at 1

Man I miss football.

 

[T0INE]

For anyone interested, here's the Top 100 NFL players for 2014.

Spoiler: NFL Top 100 Players of 2014

[table][tr][td]Rank [/td][td]Player [/td][td]Team[/td][td]Position[/td][td]2013
Ranking[/td][/tr][tr][td]1[/td][td]Peyton Manning[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]QB[/td][td]2[/td][/tr][tr][td]2[/td][td]Calvin Johnson[/td][td]Lions[/td][td]WR[/td][td]3[/td][/tr][tr][td]3[/td][td]Tom Brady[/td][td]Patriots[/td][td]QB[/td][td]4[/td][/tr][tr][td]4[/td][td]Adrian Peterson[/td][td]Vikings[/td][td]RB[/td][td]1[/td][/tr][tr][td]5[/td][td]Lesean McCoy[/td][td]Eagles[/td][td]RB[/td][td]45[/td][/tr][tr][td]6[/td][td]Drew Brees[/td][td]Saints[/td][td]QB[/td][td]11[/td][/tr][tr][td]7[/td][td]Richard Sherman[/td][td]Seahawks[/td][td]CB[/td][td]50[/td][/tr][tr][td]8[/td][td]Jamaal Charles[/td][td]Chiefs[/td][td]RB[/td][td]20[/td][/tr][tr][td]9[/td][td]AJ Green[/td][td]Bengals[/td][td]WR[/td][td]16[/td][/tr][tr][td]10[/td][td]Jimmy Graham[/td][td]Saints[/td][td]TE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]11[/td][td]Aaron Rodgers[/td][td]Packers[/td][td]QB[/td][td]6[/td][/tr][tr][td]12[/td][td]JJ Watt[/td][td]Texans[/td][td]DE[/td][td]5[/td][/tr][tr][td]13[/td][td]Robert Quinn[/td][td]Rams[/td][td]DE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]14[/td][td]Marshawn Lynch[/td][td]Seahawks[/td][td]RB[/td][td]24[/td][/tr][tr][td]15[/td][td]Luke Kuechly[/td][td]Panthers[/td][td]LB[/td][td]79[/td][/tr][tr][td]16[/td][td]Josh Gordon[/td][td]Browns[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]17[/td][td]Earl Thomas[/td][td]Seahawks[/td][td]FS[/td][td]66[/td][/tr][tr][td]18[/td][td]Joe Thomas[/td][td]Browns[/td][td]OT[/td][td]28[/td][/tr][tr][td]19[/td][td]Robert Mathis[/td][td]Colts[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]74[/td][/tr][tr][td]20[/td][td]Russell Wilson[/td][td]Seahawks[/td][td]QB[/td][td]51[/td][/tr][tr][td]21[/td][td]Andre Johnson[/td][td]Texans[/td][td]WR[/td][td]14[/td][/tr][tr][td]22[/td][td]Patrick Peterson[/td][td]Cardinals [/td][td]CB[/td][td]33[/td][/tr][tr][td]23[/td][td]Antonio Brown[/td][td]Steelers[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]24[/td][td]Cam Newton[/td][td]Panthers[/td][td]QB[/td][td]46[/td][/tr][tr][td]25[/td][td]Dez Bryant[/td][td]Cowboys[/td][td]WR[/td][td]35[/td][/tr][tr][td]26[/td][td]Terrell Suggs[/td][td]Ravens[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]56[/td][/tr][tr][td]27[/td][td]Patrick Willis[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]MLB[/td][td]10[/td][/tr][tr][td]28[/td][td]Gerald McCoy[/td][td]Buccaneers[/td][td]DT[/td][td]92[/td][/tr][tr][td]29[/td][td]Mario Williams[/td][td]Bills[/td][td]DE[/td][td]72[/td][/tr][tr][td]30[/td][td]Andrew Luck[/td][td]Colts[/td][td]QB[/td][td]23[/td][/tr][tr][td]31[/td][td]Ben Roethlisberger[/td][td]Steelers[/td][td]QB[/td][td]61[/td][/tr][tr][td]32[/td][td]Kyle Williams[/td][td]Bills[/td][td]DT[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]33[/td][td]Aldon Smith[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]7[/td][/tr][tr][td]34[/td][td]Philip Rivers[/td][td]Chargers[/td][td]QB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]35[/td][td]Lavonte David[/td][td]Buccaneers[/td][td]LB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]36[/td][td]Brandon Marshall[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]WR[/td][td]27[/td][/tr][tr][td]37[/td][td]Darrelle Revis[/td][td]Patriots[/td][td]CB[/td][td]67[/td][/tr][tr][td]38[/td][td]Larry Fitzgerald[/td][td]Cardinals [/td][td]WR[/td][td]22[/td][/tr][tr][td]39[/td][td]Joe Haden[/td][td]Browns[/td][td]CB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]40[/td][td]Ndamukong Suh[/td][td]Lions[/td][td]DT[/td][td]40[/td][/tr][tr][td]41[/td][td]Rob Gronkowski[/td][td]Patriots[/td][td]TE[/td][td]25[/td][/tr][tr][td]42[/td][td]Muhammad Wilkerson[/td][td]Jets[/td][td]DE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]43[/td][td]Tamba Hali[/td][td]Chiefs[/td][td]LB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]44[/td][td]Vincent Jackson[/td][td]Buccaneers[/td][td]WR[/td][td]52[/td][/tr][tr][td]45[/td][td]Haloti Ngata[/td][td]Ravens[/td][td]DT[/td][td]42[/td][/tr][tr][td]46[/td][td]Frank Gore[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]RB[/td][td]32[/td][/tr][tr][td]47[/td][td]NaVorro Bowan[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]LB[/td][td]37[/td][/tr][tr][td]48[/td][td]Geno Atkins[/td][td]Bengals[/td][td]DT[/td][td]36[/td][/tr][tr][td]49[/td][td]DeMariyus Thomas[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]WR[/td][td]68[/td][/tr][tr][td]50[/td][td]Eric Berry[/td][td]Chiefs[/td][td]SS[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]51[/td][td]Vernon Davis[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]TE[/td][td]38[/td][/tr][tr][td]52[/td][td]Vontaze Burfict[/td][td]Bengals[/td][td]LB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]53[/td][td]Greg Hardy[/td][td]Panthers[/td][td]DE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]54[/td][td]Alshon Jeffery[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]55[/td][td]Marshall Yanda[/td][td]Ravens[/td][td]G[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]56[/td][td]DeMarcus Ware[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]12[/td][/tr][tr][td]57[/td][td]Justin Houston[/td][td]Chiefs[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]49[/td][/tr][tr][td]58[/td][td]Joe Flacco[/td][td]Ravens[/td][td]QB[/td][td]19[/td][/tr][tr][td]59[/td][td]DeAndre Levy[/td][td]Lions[/td][td]LB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]60[/td][td]Trent Williams[/td][td]********[/td][td]T[/td][td]99[/td][/tr][tr][td]61[/td][td]Troy Polamalu[/td][td]Steelers[/td][td]SS[/td][td]91[/td][/tr][tr][td]62[/td][td]Marcell Dareus[/td][td]Bills[/td][td]DT[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]63[/td][td]Desean Jackson[/td][td]********[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]64[/td][td]Derrick Johnson[/td][td]Chiefs[/td][td]LB[/td][td]59[/td][/tr][tr][td]65[/td][td]Kam Chancellor[/td][td]Seahawks[/td][td]SS[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]66[/td][td]Cameron Wake[/td][td]Dolphins[/td][td]DE[/td][td]89[/td][/tr][tr][td]67[/td][td]Jason Peters [/td][td]Eagles[/td][td]LT[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]68[/td][td]Jared Allen[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]DE[/td][td]60[/td][/tr][tr][td]69[/td][td]Justin Smith[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]DE[/td][td]29[/td][/tr][tr][td]70[/td][td]Nick Foles[/td][td]Eagles[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]71[/td][td]Tony Romo[/td][td]Cowboys[/td][td]QB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]72[/td][td]Antrell Rolle[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]SS[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]73[/td][td]Wes Welker[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]WR[/td][td]44[/td][/tr][tr][td]74[/td][td]Tim Jennings[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]CB[/td][td]69[/td][/tr][tr][td]75[/td][td]Joe Staley[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]LT[/td][td]78[/td][/tr][tr][td]76[/td][td]Von Miller[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]9[/td][/tr][tr][td]77[/td][td]Clay Matthews[/td][td]Packers[/td][td]OLB[/td][td]31[/td][/tr][tr][td]78[/td][td]Tyron Smith[/td][td]Cowboys[/td][td]LT[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]79[/td][td]Aqib Talib[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]CB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]80[/td][td]Pierre Garcon[/td][td]********[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]81[/td][td]Colin Kaepernick[/td][td]49ers[/td][td]QB[/td][td]81[/td][/tr][tr][td]82[/td][td]TJ Ward[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]SS[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]83[/td][td]Jordy Nelson[/td][td]Packers[/td][td]WR[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]84[/td][td]Kiko Alonso[/td][td]Bills[/td][td]LB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]85[/td][td]Reggie Bush[/td][td]Lions[/td][td]RB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]86[/td][td]Duane Brown[/td][td]Texans[/td][td]LT[/td][td]48[/td][/tr][tr][td]87[/td][td]DeMarco Murray[/td][td]Cowboys[/td][td]RB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]88[/td][td]Evan Mathis[/td][td]Eagles[/td][td]G[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]89[/td][td]Charles Clay[/td][td]Dolphins[/td][td]TE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]90[/td][td]Eddie Lacy[/td][td]Packers[/td][td]RB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]91[/td][td]Matt Forte[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]RB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]92[/td][td]Eric Weddle[/td][td]Chargers[/td][td]S[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]93[/td][td]Ryan Kalil[/td][td]Panthers[/td][td]C[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]94[/td][td]Sheldon Richardson[/td][td]Jets[/td][td]DE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]95[/td][td]Brent Grimes [/td][td]Dolphins[/td][td]CB[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]96[/td][td]Daryl Washington[/td][td]Cardinals [/td][td]LB[/td][td]94[/td][/tr][tr][td]97[/td][td]Louis Vasquez[/td][td]Broncos[/td][td]G[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]98[/td][td]Jason Witten[/td][td]Cowboys[/td][td]TE[/td][td]41[/td][/tr][tr][td]99[/td][td]Cameon Jordan[/td][td]Saints[/td][td]DE[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr][tr][td]100[/td][td]Matthew Stafford[/td][td]Lions[/td][td]QB[/td][td]76[/td][/tr][/table]

 

[stillin729]

100. Matthew Stafford*

*Calvin Johnson also appears at #100

 

[MajinZuub]

I watch NFLN pregame for the pure foolishness Deion and Irvin bring They get so out of hand some times

 

[a55a5in11]

Michael Bennett was snubbed from the list

 

[buc em]

Michael Bennett was snubbed from the list

God he's so overrated now.

Most questionable to me are Charles Clay at 89 and Kuechly at 15. I cannot WAIT for Kuechly to come back down to earth this year. Don't know how Clay is ranked in the top 90 and Jordan Cameron isn't even on the list. Brady at 3 after the year he had is pretty bad too but we all expect to see guys rank him up there til the day he retires.

 

[herbshuttles15]

If this is just based off last year Brady should not be at 3

 

[100027]

God he's so overrated now.

Most questionable to me are Charles Clay at 89 and Kuechly at 15. I cannot WAIT for Kuechly to come back down to earth this year. Don't know how Clay is ranked in the top 90 and Jordan Cameron isn't even on the list. Brady at 3 after the year he had is pretty bad too but we all expect to see guys rank him up there til the day he retires.

The Charles Clay pick is hilarious.

We all know Kuechly is no top 15 player yet. I assume you think David should have been higher?

 

[jjs07]

Anyone catch American Muscle last night? It's a show that focuses on Mike Barwis, who is the owner of a gym out in Michigan. He trains everyone from pro athletes to kids. Anyways, Richard Sherman was on the episode (which was shot shortly after the SB, because he was nursing his sprained ankle) and he was asked about Crabtree. Dude HATES him. Something happened off the field between the two which he wouldn't go in to detail about.

 

[dmxfury]

Yeah he isn't letting it go, definitely something personal between the two

 

[herbshuttles15]

Somebody's *** got took.

 

[mr marcus]

Primetime with chris and tom > ____________. Why did they cancel that?

Because ESPN is dumb. That was the last best thing they ever had going.

Cfb gameday is still

If this is just based off last year Brady should not be at 3

Find me another qb that would've led that offense with them young *** receivers to the Afc championship game

 

[buc em]

The Charles Clay pick is hilarious.

We all know Kuechly is no top 15 player yet. I assume you think David should have been higher?

Absolutely. He will be after this year if we don't suck again.

 

[dmxfury]

Cfb gameday is still
Find me another qb that would've led that offense with them young *** receivers to the Afc championship game

I don't think Brady was the third best player and 2nd best QB last year. He wasn't as sharp as he normally is. I think 'legacy' and assumed results played a part. Regardless not a big deal either way

 

[sb]

Definitely envy mountain or central time


Child/house/yard work before game, after game and often during if the Steelers suck

That yard was spotless last year huh?

lulz

 

[Chester McFloppy]

There were 8 RBs better than Matt Forte last year? Yeah, OK.

 

[venom lyrix]

realistic spots for Andre Johnson to be traded to?

New England, Oakland, Seattle, Cleveland, New York Jets, Philadelphia

all places that could use a big play WR like him

 

[buc em]

He could be the mentor that Josh Gordon needs.

 

[100027]

I don't think we have the money for him. Jets or Eagles would be a good fit.

 

[venom lyrix]

I wasn't factoring in $, just off the top teams that really could use a threat