NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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Toretto said:
@Ballerific703 even tho we've been on the opposite spectrum with our opinions as of late, it's no hate man; just a passionate fan, that's all. I respect your views, && agree with you on some of them.

Can't really speak on what I wasn't here to see (at least as an active member) in terms of your prognostications over the last 2.5 years. But I don't doubt it at all, although it seems that Cam gets flak pretty regularly...but that could just be me keying in on those things as a lifelong fan of the team.

With this offensive line playing as poorly as ever, there are times where he literally has to give up on plays && try to create himself...too damn often, I might add.

I think those bad decisions that we see at times come from him having that tremendous workload with not much help to ease him of the accompanying pressures, like a legitimate running game or OC, for example. We've been trotting him out there with crumbs up front && around him, generally speaking. And after awhile, having the whole team on your back for so long starts to take its toll, && our opponents clearly realize that.

I can't really view the Smitty/Joe thing as much more than a fun fact, because we could just as easily say that Cam made Smitty relevant again to begin with, which is also true.

Flash back to 2011 && there were plenty of times that season alone where 89 was one yard short of having multi TD games with Cam as the QB.

He has his weaknesses, no doubt. But if Dalton, Kaep, etc. are getting upwards of $100M, while being at or around Cam's level, that's def. enough for me to shell out the money if I'm Dave Gettleman.

And, yes, one winning season, but harken back to '11 && '12, where you'll see COUNTLESS leads pissed away late by the defense. I know he's asked to do a lot, but he can only do but so much.
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I thought the panthers were going to good, but they're gargabe.
 
Panthers better do whatever it takes to keep him. It's just like when Cutler got his extension, who is going to be a sensible replacement? Pretty much joined at the hip
 
He'll be a Panther moving forward. No worries on that front.

Couldn't eem picture a possible replacement at the moment.
 
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KOD843 said:
Graham so soft
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shatterkneesinc said:
jimmy graham soft
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Truest statements I read all day!!!
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Come on now he's a hooper you guys gonna act like we don't know how they're made?
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DeadsetAce said:
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Chester McFloppy said:
If the Panthers can't sign Cam to a long term contract, they should take a look at Matt McGloin
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heard the Pats are going to trade TB12 to Oakland for McGloin in the offseason :nerd:
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No Thanks :lol:

Matt McGroin > Peyton Manning & Tom Brady combined
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exactly. that's why BB is going to fleece the Raiders for McGloin :lol:
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He's going to take @AJIIIpLATINum with him to be his official Gatorade filler iller upper
 
DeadsetAce said:
*waits for Cam fans to come in and complain about a lack of receivers*




not that they'd be wrong...but they were pretty adamant about "being good" at the WR position earlier in the year :lol:
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They should have drafted at least 2 WRs.. With the depth at the position in the last draft they could have gotten so,e very solid guys late
 
Ballerific703 said:
I'll respond to the shot because it was intended for me. I've said Cam was overrated for the last 2.5 years and got roasted by most of NT.

He's not a smart QB, makes a lot of bad decisions.
He's not an accurate QB.
He misses too many reads.
Gives up too early on plays and gets crushed. He's big but his body not gonna be able to take all those hits.
Flacco and Steve Smith had more multi TD games in week 3 or 4, than Cam and Steve Smith had combined. Steve also said that Cam wasn't the smartest.

AND my biggest problem with Cam since day one, he's more into the spotlight than football. He loves being on camera.


I don't think Cam is trash, I don't think he's good enough to win you a ring and I sure as hell wouldn't give him a 100 million dollar contract.

How many winnings seasons does he have? Is it just one?
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honestly, none of that is really out of line. it's just more of you hate everybody, so nobody really cares when you say "i've said __________________ was overrated for _____."
 
lol Cam is going to be the highest paid QB for a minute, then Luck/Wilson will get paid a little more. I don't think Cam is leading anyone to the Super Bowl but there is no chance in hell Carolina gives him up. He's their franchise. 
 
JJ Watt said:
When was the last time a Franchise / Top caliber QB hit the FA market?

Outside of Peyton because they colts decided to move in a different direction after they won the Luck lottery.
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Cutler sort of was closest to FA as they'll get. Cam will get paid and it'll be a huge amount 
 
AJIIIpLATINum said:
im that one said:
[COLOR=#red] You being a Raiders fan and watching all of their games since they were in LA does not give you credibility to judge the caliber of an NFL QB. Also, especially being a Raiders fan, it certainly shouldn't give you any merit to judge what is and is not a franchise QB. Since LA they have had Rich Gannon as their best QB, and that was only for 4 years with exceptional help from coaching, system, and the talent around him. Not clowning at all, but that is just fact, you nor I has seen what makes a franchise QB in Oakland.

You have no merit or basis to say this (Bold) as fact... So, using logic or something you KNOW and can prove, what makes you say this?

McGloin is not, was not, and will not be a starting QB again. He isn't good. Where people get this from, I'll never know. To argue getting Mariotta... fully could understand this argument. But the guys going so hard to for starting a 3rd string QB who wasn't good is shocking to me. Not really, ,it's NT, but there is more than one person saying as much.
[COLOR=#red]Exactly where he should be. He did a fine job as a backup. He should never ever start on an NFL team again. [/COLOR]
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So what makes Carr a starting QB? What does that say about Carr if Matt McGloin/McGroin "the bench player" has outperformed him?

Im waiting for real Derek Carr analysis and stats.

That is the reason why a big portion of the Nation is calling for McGloin over Shaub and Carr.
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I won't even answer your questions or respond to your post except to say, you didn't even read nor answer what I wrote. These posts and McGloin lovers are a joke and will get no further attention from me.

Go Phins. Phins Up.
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I was going to post this yesterday

I feel like it might be staged because the house looks like it's being renovated
 
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