NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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128 points in 4 home games....

in the first half . :x :wow:  

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I'm on the exact opposite side of the argument.

At this point imo hoyer has removed all doubt. Stick with him. Manziel is still an unknown. Personally I don't see him succeeding in the league, but that's neither here or there.

Hoyer has done better than expected, he fits Kyle shanahans offense like a glove.

if this was the typical Browns team, in line for another top 5 pick, I would say put Johnny football in.

But this is a Browns team in the hunt for the division and a playoff spot. So you stick with what got you there.
 
I'm on the exact opposite side of the argument.

At this point imo hoyer has removed all doubt. Stick with him. Manziel is still an unknown. Personally I don't see him succeeding in the league, but that's neither here or there.

Hoyer has done better than expected, he fits Kyle shanahans offense like a glove.

if this was the typical Browns team, in line for another top 5 pick, I would say put Johnny football in.

But this is a Browns team in the hunt for the division and a playoff spot. So you stick with what got you there.

I agree. They are finally winning, finally were in first, can't just throw that away for another unknown. Unless he gets offered big money he will be there another 3 years IMO
 
even if Johnny Football ends up being a good QB; I don't see him lasting in this league with the hits he is gonna end up taking
 
again from MMQB.. ummmm what the hell is this:

ESPN’s Adam Schefter with the story of the NFL investigating the Saints stashing a player they’d just waived, linebacker Todd Davis, in their building for a day, and not giving him access to communications, delaying his agreement to a deal with Denver. Schefter said New Orleans intended to keep him off-limits so the team could re-sign him to its practice squad. Davis finally got word that Denver had claimed him and reported to the Broncos in St. Louis on Saturday.
 
again from MMQB.. ummmm what the hell is this:

ESPN’s Adam Schefter with the story of the NFL investigating the Saints stashing a player they’d just waived, linebacker Todd Davis, in their building for a day, and not giving him access to communications, delaying his agreement to a deal with Denver. Schefter said New Orleans intended to keep him off-limits so the team could re-sign him to its practice squad. Davis finally got word that Denver had claimed him and reported to the Broncos in St. Louis on Saturday.

saw that yesterday

Stashgate '14
 
I mean I know teams go overboard when they are trying to sign guys.. be at their house as soon as free agency kicks off.. do whatever it takes to be the first free agency visit for the guys.. not let them leave without getting the contract signed..

but how the hell you going restrict an adults ability to access communications.. did these dudes take his cell phone or whatever other devices he could possibly have.. like how far did they go with this.. and at what point are they crossing legal lines?
 
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