Originally Posted by VA757VA
The fact that people are willing to go along w/ this, but not any of the reasonable counter-arguments just proves they made their minds up as soon as the news leaked and there isn't anything anyone can do to change it.
its funny that you said that because youve been going the HARDEST on one side of the argument since the news came out..all pro-patriots mind you...
Excuse me if my 'mind is made up' for not believing the story of a dude who has been caught cheating multiple times before.
If it dont add up, im not gonna just turn a blind eye and say it is what it is and move on...no...if it doesnt add up im going to speak up and say somethings fishy..
its pretty simple..
stop trying to justify it...stop trying to give reasons why peoples opinions are wrong or unbiased on the issue..take EVERYTHING in equally..
taking EVERYTHING (both sides) in equally, it really looks like something fishy is going on in New England....again..
You & I are biased on this issue. So are many others. That's pretty clear.
I'll say it again though, why is it that the loudest NT'ers on this subject who go hard and refute any reasonable explanations or counter-points are the same ones that had past beefs or agendas involving the Patriots? Let's call a spade a spade, man.
Look around you. A great majority of _'s in here who don't have a horse in the race and are TRUE neutral observers think this an overhyped, non-story, non-big deal, silly *** distraction that isn't worth any of this attention and does not matter because it has no real affect on the game. Does that not count for something?
Here's what I said from the start: my personal opinion is that Tom Brady lied in his presser and Bill *could* have told the truth. But regardless of intent, it's more than likely nothing out of the ordinary and not just exclusive to them. Why? Because the footballs are being doctored and tailored to Brady's preference for comfort.
It's inconclusive at BEST in regards to whether it even provides any real/significant advantage, and I listed examples of (unbiased) scientific segments backing up that claim.
It's an open secret around the league and in different levels of the sport that some QB's have their footballs doctored a certain way to their liking. I gave you different (unbiased) legitimate examples, including a painfully obvious one that you, I, and the entire country watching the same game A. mostly ignored B. didn't deem it important at the time. That same blatant example just so happens to have that QB liking his footballs doctored out of spec and hoping officials don't notice and "fix it".
Difference between any previous similar situations vs. this #deflategate nonsense is the boogeyman Patriots are involved and that always raises certain people's ***** right out of their pants.
That's what it is from my end. I think I've been reasonable.
You've given us an out-of-context Bill Nye quote and emotional conjecture from current members of the football media. AND you essentially admitted that this is your own way to cape for Peyton Manning, who has NOTHING to do w/ any of this...unless you want to include the little known fact that he AND Tom both went to the NFL in 2006 and pushed to let teams control their own footballs.
Edited by iLLoQuent aka DSK - 1/25/15 at 11:05am