NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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I think I've made all the points I can make.

I know Percy is a special "play-maker."
I know he has elite speed and explosiveness.

But when you say someone is a Top 5 FOOTBALL PLAYER, it means they are elite at a certain position and make an elite impact, when on the field.

He does one thing consistently only, everything else for him is difficult. If you have so many limitations ON THE FIELD (I'm not discussing health or team chemistry) then you simply cannot be considered an elite overall FOOTBALL player.

If it helps though, sure, he's a top-5 play maker when he touches the ball. That's obvious.

The issue is, he can only touch the ball in a few ways as opposed to other offensive weapons who are fully rounded.

So he isnt an elite "football player" when he can't make more than 1 or 2 "football plays."

I'm done there though, I don't know how you could disagree with that. It's all about wording man.
 
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Wouldn't be mad if the jets let percy walk, definitely not worth 10mil for the handful of games he'll play.
 
But when you say someone is a Top 5 FOOTBALL PLAYER, it means they are elite at a certain position and make an elite impact, when on the field.
No. It doesn't. That's not my definition. That's half the problem. Stopped reading here though. And if you think he only can do one thing really well, then forget all the points you think you're making, because you just started watching.
 
I can name 5 WR's who are better "football players" than Harvin. Cmon dude :lol:

stop living in the past

its your opinion and your entitled to it so honestly its whatever
 
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From Harbaugh, to Gase. Is there a bigger downgrade at head coach this offseason than that?

I would actually feel bad for the 9ers if they didn't bring this upon themselves..
 
I can name 5 WR's who are better "football players" than Harvin. Cmon dude
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stop living in the past
I think you guys are really misinterpreting what I mean. 

Give me those 5 WR's that can run the ball between the tackles with effectiveness. Go ahead. 
 
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Okay man. Percy Harvin is a top-5 football player on Planet Earth.

I just started watching football this past Sunday.

Let's move on.
 
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Yeah I guess I just started watching football yesterday because I noticed what most football teams noticed, which is that he can't currently run a route past 10 yards consistently and create separation as a receiver past those 10 yards.

just an ignorant football fan with an ignorant football observation there...
Because if you saw him in Minnesota you wouldn't be so adamant. He did everything. And was the player you say he's not. Created separation and caught the ball deep. Quit being so damn sensitive. I know you watch football, but I think you're wrong here in thinking he's not versatile. Bevell is dumbass. Trust. Favre  saved his ***. He wouldn't know how to use anyone with talent if took creating an modern game plan. Percy had a great game with the Jets even...Hurt most the other time, but Bevell is the only one who is clueless. Can't wait until he gets a head coaching gig. Dude is so inept.
 
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All good man.
We're not all going to agree on everything.

I heard your points, you heard mine.

*e-hand shake*

On to the next topic.


Like Peyton's arm
sb sb
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I can see where 651 is going with his Percy thing, but he also loves Matt Flynn so idk.
he needs to qualify his statement ALOT more.. maybe go with "top 5 non-QB or Oline offensive player"

eliminate all defensive players, QBs and Olinemen

so narrow it down to WRs, RBs and TEs I guess.. not that I would agree with the premise then, but I would be more inclined to
 
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