NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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a55a5in11 said:
keel252 keel252 word of advice. Change your avi. My 3 dollar bill is more legit
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damn bruh you sound salty...im just letting you know to delete it bc nobody is ever gonna laugh at or rep you for the pic. thats clearly why you post it.

just keeping it funky.


thats one of the things wrong with america today. nobody can take constructive criticism.

R-E-L-A-X
 
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shoots being fired at Cam Newton? :lol:

Leave Killa alone, he needs to be alone after his line made sure he had plenty of company all year long
 
psmith17k5 said:
 
Killing me with the front 4 business, I agree the D had a lot to do with stopping the Pats in '07.  That defensive 4 was ungodly good, but as a I recall, they couldn't make a play in the 4th with about 2+ to go.   As I recall, Eli Manning took the ball down the field against an undefeated football team, in the biggest game of his life, and put a dime on Plax to win an NFL Title...............................

OH, and then he did it again. Not once, but twice.   Go look at those to 4-0 playoff runs and his numbers, keep telling me it was all cause of the front 4.  The same front 4 that 1) retired before the second time Eli put TB12 to nappy time and  2) had two of its other members go other places and not even get on the field in a meaningful way (understand age played a part but still). 

Eagles fans giving the guy credit where due, but the Star ignorance remains.  
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Agree with all of this
 
theJet said:
@CP1708
, what's the word on Kacy Rodgers?
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He's worked with some talent over the few years he was with us, but they also at times let down. (this year especially)

How much credit he does or doesn't deserve for guys like Wake, Starks, Soliaii,Odrick or Vernon, I don't know, but they all played well at times during their careers.

If he learned anything under Kevin Coyle tho, I would have concerns. Coyle sucks. But with Bowles calling the shots, Rodgers should be ok early on while he learns the true ins and outs of the job.


I think he's a learning hire, not a slam dunk, obvious candidate or anything like that, but he could certainly grow into a decent play caller. Rose up thru the Parcells/Sparano coaching tree, followed by working with Joe Philbin and Coyle, so take that for what it's worth.
 
That's my biggest concern, phins defense would start off good then cave towards the end of the season. Nothing special.
 
CP1708 said:
He's worked with some talent over the few years he was with us, but they also at times let down. (this year especially)

How much credit he does or doesn't deserve for guys like Wake, Starks, Soliaii,Odrick or Vernon, I don't know, but they all played well at times during their careers.

If he learned anything under Kevin Coyle tho, I would have concerns. Coyle sucks. But with Bowles calling the shots, Rodgers should be ok early on while he learns the true ins and outs of the job.


I think he's a learning hire, not a slam dunk, obvious candidate or anything like that, but he could certainly grow into a decent play caller. Rose up thru the Parcells/Sparano coaching tree, followed by working with Joe Philbin and Coyle, so take that for what it's worth.
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respect for the in-depth info homie.
 
psmith17k5 said:
 
Killing me with the front 4 business, I agree the D had a lot to do with stopping the Pats in '07.  That defensive 4 was ungodly good, but as a I recall, they couldn't make a play in the 4th with about 2+ to go.   As I recall, Eli Manning took the ball down the field against an undefeated football team, in the biggest game of his life, and put a dime on Plax to win an NFL Title...............................

OH, and then he did it again. Not once, but twice.   Go look at those to 4-0 playoff runs and his numbers, keep telling me it was all cause of the front 4.  The same front 4 that 1) retired before the second time Eli put TB12 to nappy time and  2) had two of its other members go other places and not even get on the field in a meaningful way (understand age played a part but still). 

Eagles fans giving the guy credit where due, but the Star ignorance remains.  
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Man listen Eli is clutch we all know that, if the game is close hes liable to win it.  But the game has to be close.....

Say what you want but whens the last time a team won a super bowl without a dominate D line and front seven.  Youre acting like, in both those super bowl games, Brady wasnt getting pressured all game and that was the biggest difference from all his other Super Bowl wins.  Both times, I remember vividly, even the commentators were talking about how Brady wasnt comfortable in the pocket, and he hasnt faced a pass rush like that.  Every QB is great when they got all day to throw.

But Im still gonna go to my first question:  Whens the last time a team won the Super Bowl without a dominate D Line a front seven??  Im waiting
 
WillzWay26 said:
Braxton is done, I love the guy but he cant throw anymore.  Hes been out the past two seasons, he popped his shoulder throwing a 5 yard pass and was out for the year.  JT gon start tho
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Braxton is def not done IMO

I think he'll be fine, also think he's got tools to be a starter in the NFL
 
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