NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

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SneakerHeathen said:
But conveniently ignore his 200 yard 2 TD game against Denver right?
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You must not have watched the Superbowl.
Forget his 270 yard 3 TD game against Carolina right?
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No one forgot.  YOU must have forgotten how much us "haters" praised him for that game.
His 200 yard 1 TD game with a 65% completion percentage against Frisco in 2013, forget that right?
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The game where most of his production came from a hail mary type pass on a free play?  Oh.
 
Forget his 385 yard 3 total TD game against Atlanta his rookie year, where was his defense to prop him up that day? Huh?
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His defense was no where to be found that day, hence the reason why the Seahawks lost the game in spite of Wilson having a great game.

My god, you just make it too easy.
 
Rolaholic said:
 
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 True but there are multiple reasons for that other than him. What does he do skill wise better than luck?
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Well, there are multiple reasons for any SB bound team. QB being the primary reason 99 out of 100 times.

Indy WR's > Sea WR's, yet we got a potential back-to-back champ on the horizon...

I'm not saying I'm taking Wilson over Luck in a draft, but I'm saying the gap is closer than most give him credit for...
 
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[COLOR=#red]Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck (miss in a different way, a miss is a miss)
Tony Romo (see above)
Teddy Bridgewater
Kaep
RG3
Tannehill on roll outs...

just off the top of my head.

I've never disputed the fact that I think RW is a good QB in the perfect situation.

He isn't one of a kind.

He didn't win that game, he played well for 4 minutes.[/COLOR]





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Kaep? :lol:

RG3? :lol: :lol:

Bridgewater? Really? I like the kid, but really? Already? :lol:

ROMO!?

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Maybe Luck, maybe.........Doubt it, guy isn't the same athlete Wilson is, dude is mobile but not nearly as mobile as Wilson.


Half the guys you named are mobile enough but can't make the throw w/o being picked off, the other half are good enough to make the throw on the run but would get sacked before they even had a chance.


Do you guys even realize how bad that Seattle line is and how many defenders Wilson had to dodge just to make a throw half the damn time? :lol:
 
Luck tackling Revis yesterday...thought he was going to break Revis in two :lol:
 
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JJ Watt said:
Luck is a damm LB and when he takes off he's mowing people down.

He may not be as "mobile" as RW but can RW throwing 20 yard darts with dudes hanging off him like Luck?

No.
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Luck can definitely look like an RB at times, but that's a bit different than scrambling to buy time and make a pass.


He's more of a downhill runner whereas Wilson is more sideline to sideline but has the speed to pull off a long run.


Luck just doesn't make guys miss at the same rate as Wilson nor does he extend plays at the same rate. Why is this even a debate?
 
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I find it hard to root for Russell Wilson because of NT and the 10 or so (used to be 1 legit fan) Seahawks fans who only started showing up at my local spot on Sundays after 2012
 
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Rolaholic said:
 
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 True but there are multiple reasons for that other than him. What does he do skill wise better than luck?
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Well, there are multiple reasons for any SB bound team. QB being the primary reason 99 out of 100 times.

Indy WR's > Sea WR's, yet we got a potential back-to-back champ on the horizon...

I'm not saying I'm taking Wilson over Luck in a draft, but I'm saying the gap is closer than most give him credit for...
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Seattle's Running game >>>>>>>> Indy's whatever they call it 

The QB isn't even the real focal point of that offense.

Like I said earlier,I'm a fan of his but no way in hell do I think that he's a better QB than Luck. I'm sure he'd also have success on less talented squads but I'm not confidant that he'd be able recreate the success he already has if had to rely on his own talent and skill for the most part just yet.
 
guarantee you Luck would've made all the right throws yesterday and that post game feminist-display of tears from Kearse and Baldwin would've never happened :x :smh:
 
SneakerHeathen said:


But name me one tho bro, name me one. How many QBs can make defenders miss like he can and throw on the run like him?
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[COLOR=#red] Edit: Forgot Cam and Ben...I named Nine...


These are all roll out QBs, they are better or just as great outside of the pocket.

Their "make them miss" is different. Doesn't negate the fact they are good on roll outs.


Is Romo not good on his roll out? ...

know what... between you and MF it's a toss up between who's head is further up their *** and reading comprehension when it comes to anything in this thread or the QB thread.

I'm good with engaging with you two anymore.[/COLOR]
 
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JJ Watt said:
Great , but I gave the rebuttable to the first part of your statement with my statement.

Luck may not be as "mobile" as RW, but RW isn't as strong as luck.

Like I said, RW isn't throwing a 20 yard dart with a DL hanging off him like luck does, and we've seen him do.
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so with that, you honestly believe he'd thrive just fine behind the Seattle offensive line?


Okay, though he definitely gets sacked more often than WIlson, and that's with him playing behind a better line.
 
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