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dude was a real dude though for giving Ricky back that ball b
 
Miami was trying to shop Wallace to the eagles too. In hindsight the eagles made the right move by keeping foles, he had the 27/2 year in 2013. Gordon led league in rec that year too but things not looking good at the moment. Banner trying to do the eagles dirty :lol:
 
Late Allen just got arrested.

Update: Looks like dude got off. wasn't arrested at all, just detained and questioned. Girl claimed he exposed himself in his truck, police didn't believe her.
 
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Is Derek Carr Really the Future of the Oakland Raiders?

If you ask Google, it appears that most people think Derek Carr's rookie season was a success. Perhaps that's true given expectations -- he was a second-round selection in last year's draft, and the Raiders' recent history managing the quarterback position hasn't exactly been strong.

But exceeding expectations doesn't mean a player is good. And it seems like that's being ignored a bit with Carr.

Carr finished his rookie season with 21 touchdowns, 12 interceptions and a solid 3,270 yards. This made him one of eight rookie quarterbacks in NFL history to have thrown for at least 3,000 yards and 20 touchdowns. This was also something his brother, David, never accomplished during his five years as the Houston Texans' starter.

Butterflies and rainbows, right? Not exactly.

Touchdown-to-interception ratios and yardage totals don't really tell us the entire story about a quarterback's season. Touchdowns can be short and unimportant (garbage time), while interceptions aren't created equally -- a pick-six, after all, is a bigger play than a 3rd-and-long interception that would be the equivalent to a punt.

That's why we look at our signature Net Expected Points (NEP) metric to give us a better idea of what's actually happening on the field. In essence, NEP looks at each play and calculates the points added by a player based on expectation. You can read more about it in our glossary.

In 2014, the average Passing NEP -- points added on passes only -- by quarterbacks with 200 or more drop backs was 45.17. (The reason this number wasn't zero, or "expectation", was because passing is naturally more efficient than rushing.) This sample includes a total of 37 signal-callers, with the majority of them -- 31 -- throwing for a positive Passing NEP value.

Derek Carr wasn't part of that group of 31. Instead, he was one of six high-volume quarterbacks this season to finish the year with a negative Passing NEP, finishing with a -40.94 total. The others? Jay Cutler, Austin Davis, Josh McCown, Robert Griffin III and Blake Bortles.

Among these six quarterbacks, Carr's per drop back Passing NEP was fourth worst. And within the entire group of 37, Carr's Success Rate -- the percentage of passes that contribute positively towards NEP -- was fourth from the bottom as well.

If we're being honest, it wasn't a good year for Derek Carr. He was in roughly the 10th percentile as an NFL starting quarterback.

Many will point out that these poor numbers are due to bad personnel around him and inexperience at the position. That's not unfair, and I'm sure that played a role in all of this. However, Carr's first-year numbers don't give us -- me, at least -- much confidence.

In January of last year, I wrote a piece on whether or not a quarterback's rookie season predicts his future. The findings showed that it kind of does -- passers who were good during their rookie campaigns hit at a much higher rate than those who were bad from the start.

Geno Smith, for instance, finished 2013 with a Passing NEP of -68.55. Since 2000, that placed him among the worst rookie quarterbacks we've seen. His campaign didn't show much promise.

Carr's Passing NEP places him in a rookie quarterback tier that includes guys like Joey Harrington and Josh Freeman. Within this tier of 10 players, the best quarterback is arguably Matthew Stafford, or maybe Carson Palmer. But those are the only two quarterbacks who really hit (out of 10 passers), giving Carr pretty low odds.

This isn't to say he'll never be serviceable, but just going by the numbers, it's tough to get behind the franchise building around him. And it's also difficult to get behind new head coach Jack Del Rio's claim of Carr being a special young talent.
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Not an big deal but I always thought is was disrespectful for Tennessee to wear that throwback oil derrek even is they were the Oilers for 1 season. A yearly reminder of how Bud Adams used to **** on the city.

And on the flipside of that Bob McNair would never allow it but the team would win a lot more goodwill here if they got the Oilers
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charger powder blues are some of the ugliest jerseys ever. liked the chargers jerseys when LT was in the league. the redesign was good but powder blue :x
 
Bruh that's borderline blasphemous :lol:. Their dark blue ones were :x to me while those powders blues are one of the GOATs
 
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charger powder blues are some of the ugliest jerseys ever. liked the chargers jerseys when LT was in the league. the redesign was good but powder blue :x
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you're out of your skull

powder blue in jerseys in general is fire, especially when its the primary color
 
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