I rock wit Troy Ave, but he kinda got killed by this Vice article

That's like the jackasses that wear weed logo clothing and get mad when the police search them. At some point you gotta stop and think, "am I asking for problems I don't want?" [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]127997[/emoji]‍♂️
 
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20...oy-ave-latest-news-bail-restrictions-loosened


Troy Ave Didn't Bring Murder Weapon Into Irving Plaza, DA Says

Troy Ave wore a bulletproof vest to Manhattan Criminal Court Friday where prosecutors agreed to lift bail restrictions that had barred him from performing.
Troy Ave wore a bulletproof vest to Manhattan Criminal Court Friday where prosecutors agreed to lift bail restrictions that had barred him from performing.
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CIVIC CENTER — Eight months after his arrest in connection to a deadly shooting at Irving Plaza in May, prosecutors announced they no longer think Crown Heights rapper Troy Ave brought the murder weapon into the club.

Troy Ave — who showed up to Manhattan Supreme Courthouse Friday wearing a bulletproof vest under a fox-fur coat — had been charged with attempted murder and weapons possession charges after the May 25 shooting at a T.I. concert that left him wounded and his friend and bodyguard, Ronald McPhatter, dead.

Investigators, however, have moved away from their belief that Troy Ave, whose real name is Roland Collins, brought the murder weapon into the club after new information emerged connecting hip-hop podcaster Taxstone to the shooting.

“This defendant is not the individual who brought the gun into Irving Plaza, which has been ballistically connected to the murder of Ronald McPhatter and the shooting of three other individuals, including the defendant,” Assistant District Attorney Christine Keenan said in the hearing Friday.

“This does not alleviate his criminal responsibility for his actions, or for the guns found in his van. These are very serious crimes, but this additional evidence was not known to us at the time of our original bail request,” Keenan added, consenting to the loosening of Troy Ave's bail conditions to grant him the right to perform again.

The agreement with prosecutors will allow Troy Ave to perform under the condition that he return home within 24 hours of each performance, be accompanied by a licensed security guard, only perform at venues with bag and body checks at security and that he continue to wear an ankle monitor at all times.

He will also be able to visit his children in New Jersey with notice given in advance to the DA.

Investigators arrested Taxstone in January on charges that he smuggled the murder weapon into Irving Plaza that night and fired the first shots after a confrontation with Troy Ave in a second-floor VIP room.

Investigators linked Taxstone's DNA to the gun, and tracked down a straw purchaser in Florida who told authorities he sold the gun to an associate of Taxstone who in turn passed it along to him, according to court documents.

Police released a video of Troy Ave running inside the club holding a gun on the night of the shooting. But federal prosecutors said in their charges against Taxstone that Troy Ave grabbed the weapon from Taxstone after the shooting and fired back.

Troy Ave, who also sported a custom-made hat that read “bake and water whip weight again” — a parody of President Donald Trump’s slogan "Make America Great Again," but referring to the process of producing crack-cocaine — said after the hearing that he’s excited to get back on the road and perform for his fans after months of being mostly confined to his home.

“I feel blessed, man,” he said. “I haven’t worked in eight months, and I just want to get back in touch with my fans.”

John Stella, Troy Ave's lawyer, has argued from the beginning that his client was not responsible for bringing the murder weapon into Irving Plaza and that Troy Ave and McPhatter were both victims of a targeted attack.

Troy Ave was shot in the arm and head in a separate shooting in Brownsville on Christmas Day, and he said he's still suffering from the attack. The gunman in that shooting remains at large, according to police.

"I still get headaches sometimes because there's still a bullet in my head so it'll be throbbing," he told reporters after the hearing.

"I got a bullet in my back so it's hard to sleep. My son likes to pretend he's Batman I'm still trying to get through the pain but It's better than being dead."
 
Maybe I should have put this together sooner but I was wondering why the delay in bringing Tax in.

Especially if his DNA was on the gun this whole time.

But I guess the delay was in the legwork of tracing the gun back to FL and then connecting it to Tax's man.

The way some of y'all talking about "snitching" and "free _" like dude is your mans, y'all clearly listen to too much rap music :lol:
 
illphillip said:
Maybe I should have put this together sooner but I was wondering why the delay in bringing Tax in.

Especially if his DNA was on the gun this whole time.

But I guess the delay was in the legwork of tracing the gun back to FL and then connecting it to Tax's man.

The way some of y'all talking about "snitching" and "free _" like dude is your mans, y'all clearly listen to too much rap music :lol:
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ninjahood said:
Troy doin a light bid...and come out Diet Gucci Mane...Tax? RIP
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Troy gonna do probation at most. Some community service. All they got on him is firing the weapon in the club which can be self defense.

I'm surprised that uncle murder and maino ain't said anything about the situation. I thought they were all cool w Tax? I could be wrong
 
FlyNY said:
ninjahood said:
Troy doin a light bid...and come out Diet Gucci Mane...Tax? RIP
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Troy gonna do probation at most. Some community service. All they got on him is firing the weapon in the club which can be self defense.

I'm surprised that uncle murder and maino ain't said anything about the situation. I thought they were all cool w Tax? I could be wrong
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probation after firing into a crowd?
 
I don't see it neither. I'm not a law expert but speaking from a similar experience he'd have to prove his life was in danger at the point he let off. Dude went from the victim, then starting pursuing...unless them cats was shooting back he's going to have a hard time convincing a judge of that. I went through a situation years ago when I shot at robber who was fleeing my property and they tried to give me charges because I gave chase and let off shots because I was literally a few feet off my property. So him letting off in a club when his alleged attacker is running away might be hard for him to beat that charge.

I will say that judging from his get up yesterday dude confidence is at an all time high. He must know he's getting off, or getting something light. I see they are let him perform now and can leave NYC to do shows, so iit might be looking good for him.
 
I wonder if theres an "insanity" like plea for a guy in Troy's position?

If the narrative holds true, it's almost understandable that after all that, if you get the gun, you'd go after the guys that just tried to murk you.

Or where do you draw the line at self defense? Does it end when you get the gun? Or can you argue that you needed to make sure those dudes were either all the way gone or dead to protect your own safety?
 
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Troy has a self defense defense. Considering it wasn't his gun and his man was just killed.
 
TomDiginson said:
You're talking like every case is the same.
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in the context of cases like this (your man gets killed or you get shot and you PURSUE the shooter in the heat of the moment) which are probably relatively common

pretty sure you can't just claim you went insane just because your ***** got hit
 
lil nut said:
in the context of cases like this (your man gets killed or you get shot and you PURSUE the shooter in the heat of the moment) which are probably relatively common

pretty sure you can't just claim you went insane just because your ***** got hit
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Most cases are absolutely nothing like this.

Especially when they're charging Tax with the brunt of it.
 
:lol: this _ really showed to court in a bulletproof vest.


Troy and Tax are both clowns. If either one of 'em was solid this situation coulda easily been cooled down.
 
meh i'm still on the side of tax from my admittedly uneducated wasn't there that night perspective

from what i gathered troy walked up to him on some rah rah **** and left with a hole in his body and a dead homie

he got what he wanted lol
 
lil nut said:
meh i'm still on the side of tax from my admittedly uneducated wasn't there that night perspective

from what i gathered troy walked up to him on some rah rah **** and left with a hole in his body and a dead homie

he got what he wanted lol
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Exactly what he wanted. I still stick by it, he got his man's murked. Tax getting the book tossed at him but troy ain't getting off with no damn slap on the wrist. Son is on camera firing into a crowded club, the threat was fleeing. He's getting far less time than tax but no slap on the wrist for him at all.
 
i'd be stunned if he only got probation after firing into a crowd in an attempt to hit a fleeing target, and his reasoning being that he was temporarily insane.

stunned.
 
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Willchamberlain said:
lil nut said:
meh i'm still on the side of tax from my admittedly uneducated wasn't there that night perspective

from what i gathered troy walked up to him on some rah rah **** and left with a hole in his body and a dead homie

he got what he wanted lol
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Exactly what he wanted. I still stick by it, he got his man's murked. Tax getting the book tossed at him but troy ain't getting off with no damn slap on the wrist. Son is on camera firing into a crowded club, the threat was fleeing. He's getting far less time than tax but no slap on the wrist for him at all.
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I mean that's cool if y'all wanna take sides. Tax still sparked this by talking big **** about dude for a while over nothing. He also got what he wanted.
 
Tax definitely isn't innocent in sparking the situation but that first encounter could have been over a Phone or FaceTime rather than a club where it's an audience and everybody wanna be hard

also super disrespectful to TI
 
antagonizing a man for over a year and not getting pressed don't really go together in the streets

if people found out they were in the same spot and nothing shook everybody would be clowning troy

and the story yall saying is hearsay, there's really no proof troy started it

either way tax or his people had it on em knowing it would be a problem
 
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