I rock wit Troy Ave, but he kinda got killed by this Vice article

What is killing me is that just a few months ago it was ASAP/French sound to southern to really put NYC on (Completely False but that's a whole other flow) ... Now someone from NYC actually sticks to his roots 100% and wants to keep an NYC sound and now he's corny for repping where he's from... where's the logic?

As if ATL hasn't been pushing the "New Atlanta" movement for about a year now because the game done left them too. EVERY region has their big players and Vets and every region has someone shining right now but instead of joining that ya'll are constantly trying to downplay NYC in everything and it's :lol: to us because no matter what your angry little post say, NYC is always going to be relevant in hiphop that will NEVER change so just let it go and enjoy your region while we enjoy ours
 
Mr Marcus said:
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LuckyLuchiano said:
you sound like a lame NYC cat rocking Timbs and And 1 shorts in the summer. What Southern Rapper acts like this clown in interviews?
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Khaled & ross act just like him, hes just not as accomplished so people take it a certain way, but early ross was just like him
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Ross was already established in the industry and ghost writing for ya favorite rapper.
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What does that have to do with how ridiculous he sounds in his interviews?

Troy seems to be self made. And doing well for himself.

If you're giving dudes a "pass" for their arrogance based on some level of success, can you really say Troy doesn't have a right to be?
 
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illphillip said:
What does that have to do with how ridiculous he sounds in his interviews?

Troy seems to be self made. And doing well for himself.

If you're giving dues a "pass" for their arrogance based on some level of success, can you really say Troy doesn't have a right to be?
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Exactly Ross acts as if he's had the success of Jay-Z he's the King of boosting up EVERYTHING affiliated with him, his street past, his artist, his success, his impact etc etc EVERYTHING he does in an act to draw more interest for himself.

so when Troy ave does it suddenly their's a problem, due to that interview some nerd got upset, through on his chance the rapper T-shirt and wrote a wall of hate on Troy ave all while getting his name trending on twitter for the day and having hiphop focused on him.
 
tyisny said:
illphillip said:
What does that have to do with how ridiculous he sounds in his interviews?

Troy seems to be self made. And doing well for himself.

If you're giving dues a "pass" for their arrogance based on some level of success, can you really say Troy doesn't have a right to be?
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Exactly Ross acts as if he's had the success of Jay-Z he's the King of boosting up EVERYTHING affiliated with him, his street past, his artist, his success, his impact etc etc EVERYTHING he does in an act to draw more interest for himself.

so when Troy ave does it suddenly their's a problem, due to that interview some nerd got upset, through on his chance the rapper T-shirt and wrote a wall of hate on Troy ave all while getting his name trending on twitter for the day and having hiphop focused on him.
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tbh Ross has gotten his fair share of the criticism....
 
I respect Troy's grind. He's not d riding and looking for co-signs like a lot of new dudes out right now. I slept on him for a while cuz all his features he sounded like a poor mans mix of Max and 50.but after I listened to his New York project a few times I couldn't front, **** is real good. I don't think he's NY's savior or anything but he makes some dope stuff. I rather bump his music than any of those ASAP Mob/Bone Thugs/3-6 Mafia sounding *** _'s.


Magic1978 said:
Praising Chinx and French who have been doing basically the same thing subject wise, but with a southern sound..
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I agree with that. I wanna hear Troy and Chinx do some stuff together.
 
illphillip said:
Mr Marcus said:
Offset POW CLOW said:
LuckyLuchiano said:
you sound like a lame NYC cat rocking Timbs and And 1 shorts in the summer. What Southern Rapper acts like this clown in interviews?
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Khaled & ross act just like him, hes just not as accomplished so people take it a certain way, but early ross was just like him
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Ross was already established in the industry and ghost writing for ya favorite rapper.
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What does that have to do with how ridiculous he sounds in his interviews?

Troy seems to be self made. And doing well for himself.

If you're giving dudes a "pass" for their arrogance based on some level of success, can you really say Troy doesn't have a right to be?
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This seems to be the norm now it seems.
 
The way I can tell you NYC cats hurt right now is you keep bringing up the south. Envious clowns, we talking about NYC and Troy being trash and y'all gotta bring up the south which has nothing to do with Troy Ave or NYC Rap sucking since Da Roc broke up
 
Troy Ave been grinding since at least like 05 when he was with Def Jam/Voicez he had videos for that "Rep it with my heart" track and another one so I gotta give him at least a lil credit for even sticking with this rap **** damn near 10 years later :lol:

I agree with Ty tho, Troy stay throwing shots at the "weirdos" like Chance the Rapper, etc and I know that rub the hipsters the wrong way so I could see the article stemming a lil bit from that. Hovain tweeted a picture from that dude Instagram from about 2 years ago when he was face to face with Troy I'm sure he had nothing but good stuff to say to him

Like I said tho Joey Badass stuff seems just as forced and corny with that bringing back the 90s **** only difference is the hipsters eat that up.

At the end of the day it's Vice seeing some of the **** they big up I wouldn't even be that mad :lol:
 
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STR8DROP said:
Troy Ave been grinding since at least like 05 when he was with Def Jam/Voicez he had videos for that "Rep it with my heart" track and another one so I gotta give him at least a lil credit for even sticking with this rap **** damn near 10 years later :lol:

I agree with Ty tho, Troy stay throwing shots at the "weirdos" like Chance the Rapper, etc and I know that rub the hipsters the wrong way so I could see the article stemming a lil bit from that. Hovain tweeted a picture from that dude Instagram from about 2 years ago when he was face to face with Troy I'm sure he had nothing but good stuff to say to him

Like I said tho Joey Badass stuff seems just as forced and corny with that bringing back the 90s **** only difference is the hipsters eat that up.

At the end of the day it's Vice seeing some of the **** they big up I wouldn't even be that mad :lol:
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Joey b and Troy seem like they listened to old songs and said "hey I'm gonna rap just like this"

If I take Nas flow and use it on beats that he would probably rap on does that make me a good rapper? Like these dudes seem like they are just imitating old rappers. IMO ASAP Ferg one of the best things to happen to NYC in a min. Folks fail to realize we are the "napster/lime wire" generation. Kids in Harlem growing up listening to three 6 mafia and kids in Atlanta growing up on dipset, having a fusion sound is inevitable.
 
I blame these so called "hip hop analyst" talking about we need that ny sound, like wtf is the ny sound? 80's ny didnt sound like 90s & 90s didnt sound like the 2000s, we in a different time, its mostly the dudes thats not even from ny that always gotta bring it up,

B****vel didnt have a "ny sound" he had that wave :pimp:
 
Joey Badass seems like he "Trying" to bring back old school Hiphop and that vibe, Troy comes off more as a ***** who likes NYC rap and influenced by what's around him.

I'm sick of people who ain't from NYC telling NYC what our rap should sound like

Troy ave, Action Bronson, A$AP Rocky, A$AP Ferg, A$AP Twelvy, French/ chinx etc etc all have very NYC factors to their music and they all have different sounds. When Rocky or French does something with southern elements tied in they are considered biting.

When Troy or Bronson stick to a certain kind of production suddenly their not innovative to the culture

Meanwhile Migos is blowing up all throughout sounding like Carbon copies of Gucci the blogs love them, Rich Homie & all those autotuned out rappers sound like exact off spring of Future nobody says anything.

Curren$y, Cole, Elec etc etc have a very distinct NYC vibe to their production and aura of their music but it's okay?

All these artist i mentioned i **** with and rock with their music to an extent but let's not sit here and act as if they are reinventing the wheel or being innovative, hell they ain't even moving back five years to sample a ***** sound.

Then coming from noisey.... the same people who LOVE young thug who's best songs sound like the worst songs of drugged out Era Wayne, that said magazine pokes fun at all the time.... it's not adding up.

That whole article sounds l;ike it's from some nerd who hates, street rap & has animosity towards the thought of NYC rap getting love, it's a straight *****made article and it's clear.
 
I think people do consider Action Bronson doing something different/innovative, other than the people who call him a "GFK ripoff".
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Joey b and Troy seem like they listened to old songs and said "hey I'm gonna rap just like this"

If I take Nas flow and use it on beats that he would probably rap on does that make me a good rapper? Like these dudes seem like they are just imitating old rappers. IMO ASAP Ferg one of the best things to happen to NYC in a min. Folks fail to realize we are the "napster/lime wire" generation. Kids in Harlem growing up listening to three 6 mafia and kids in Atlanta growing up on dipset, having a fusion sound is inevitable.
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Ludacris didn't listen to Redman?

Jay didn't listen Big Daddy Kane?

Nas, Big Pun didn't listen to Rakim?

M.O.P didn't listen to Onyx?

Wiz never listened to Snoop?

Boot Camp never listened to Wu tang?

The 50 million 2pac clones didn't listen to Pac?

Rappers woulda said F the Popo if N.W.A didn't say it first?

Wasn't Master P trap rap before it was labeled "trap" when T.I was probably in middle school/high school   

You bringing up Ferg like he's original
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See where I'm going here? I can give you a million examples of flows/style/lyrics that's been borrowed. There's not enough clones in hiphop?  We livin in the clone wars generation
 
My point is how many rappers are REALLY in their own lane that are blowing up.... Their are several Artist in NYC who have a distinct sound but there not being picked up because people say they want originality but in fact they don't.

Then the author had the nerve to talk about content??? with the people that noisey constantly plasters on their post he questioning content?... hell it's been done before but Troy Ave has deeper content then 75% of the rappers they post and that's not saying much for Troy Ave
 
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I think people do consider Action Bronson doing something different/innovative, other than the people who call him a "GFK ripoff".
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What is new or different about him?

subject wise? voice? flow?

The only thing new is he's fat and white

Online people like to anoint the hot artist like it's the flavor of the month, and it has been him and Joey. They have their hipster fanbase and it allows them to travel, I'm not mad at it, but offline it's totally different.

That's why I find it funny dude is devoting an article to someone he doesn't like. That's some online new generation stuff, because now you listen to interviews and troll their social media to develop a dislike for people. I don't care about these dudes enough to dislike them. If I don't like your music, I don't listen to it. Instead of trying to champion who he claims he does like. J Live and Meyhem just released projects. Why not devote that time to introducing this new generation to J Live who's been grinding for around 20 years, has an interesting story, and actually needs the attention.

This is a troll article from a wannabe journalist on some TMZ ****. If this were the 90's he'd be confronted on it, and he would be copping pleas.
 
Shout outs to Troy. He been grindin for years.

His music ain't nothing special, but he a hustler and he sold himself well

If you don't believe in yourself who will?
 
Troy Ave. makes music for dudes who've never stepped foot outside of NYC, but are 100% sure everything is better in NYC :lol:

Nah, but forreal dude is a lame and his music sucks.
 
Magic1978 said:
You have to know who's writing the articles

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People writing opinion articles for clicks
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So much is wrong with this article. Troy is irrelevant but you write an article about him? Why not write about J Live or Meyhem's project?

Praising Chinx and French who have been doing basically the same thing subject wise, but with a southern sound.

If this were the 90's he wouldn't have written this article, because there would be repercussions.....

Opportunistic and out of touch bozo.
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Sounds like the wanna be editor/journalist.
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These same white boys y'all claim to hate so much are the ones that actually buy the albums & go to shows. THEY suppose the artist. 

Troy Ave is the personification of everything everyone hates about NYC rappers
 
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