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Troy Ave been grinding since at least like 05 when he was with Def Jam/Voicez he had videos for that "Rep it with my heart" track and another one so I gotta give him at least a lil credit for even sticking with this rap **** damn near 10 years later laugh.gif

I agree with Ty tho, Troy stay throwing shots at the "weirdos" like Chance the Rapper, etc and I know that rub the hipsters the wrong way so I could see the article stemming a lil bit from that. Hovain tweeted a picture from that dude Instagram from about 2 years ago when he was face to face with Troy I'm sure he had nothing but good stuff to say to him

Like I said tho Joey Badass stuff seems just as forced and corny with that bringing back the 90s **** only difference is the hipsters eat that up.

At the end of the day it's Vice seeing some of the **** they big up I wouldn't even be that mad laugh.gif

Joey b and Troy seem like they listened to old songs and said "hey I'm gonna rap just like this"

If I take Nas flow and use it on beats that he would probably rap on does that make me a good rapper? Like these dudes seem like they are just imitating old rappers. IMO ASAP Ferg one of the best things to happen to NYC in a min. Folks fail to realize we are the "napster/lime wire" generation. Kids in Harlem growing up listening to three 6 mafia and kids in Atlanta growing up on dipset, having a fusion sound is inevitable.
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I blame these so called "hip hop analyst" talking about we need that ny sound, like wtf is the ny sound? 80's ny didnt sound like 90s & 90s didnt sound like the 2000s, we in a different time, its mostly the dudes thats not even from ny that always gotta bring it up,

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Joey Badass seems like he "Trying" to bring back old school Hiphop and that vibe, Troy comes off more as a ***** who likes NYC rap and influenced by what's around him.

I'm sick of people who ain't from NYC telling NYC what our rap should sound like

Troy ave, Action Bronson, A$AP Rocky, A$AP Ferg, A$AP Twelvy, French/ chinx etc etc all have very NYC factors to their music and they all have different sounds. When Rocky or French does something with southern elements tied in they are considered biting.

When Troy or Bronson stick to a certain kind of production suddenly their not innovative to the culture

Meanwhile Migos is blowing up all throughout sounding like Carbon copies of Gucci the blogs love them, Rich Homie & all those autotuned out rappers sound like exact off spring of Future nobody says anything.

Curren$y, Cole, Elec etc etc have a very distinct NYC vibe to their production and aura of their music but it's okay?

All these artist i mentioned i **** with and rock with their music to an extent but let's not sit here and act as if they are reinventing the wheel or being innovative, hell they ain't even moving back five years to sample a ***** sound.

Then coming from noisey.... the same people who LOVE young thug who's best songs sound like the worst songs of drugged out Era Wayne, that said magazine pokes fun at all the time.... it's not adding up.

That whole article sounds l;ike it's from some nerd who hates, street rap & has animosity towards the thought of NYC rap getting love, it's a straight *****made article and it's clear.
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I think people do consider Action Bronson doing something different/innovative, other than the people who call him a "GFK ripoff".
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Joey b and Troy seem like they listened to old songs and said "hey I'm gonna rap just like this"

If I take Nas flow and use it on beats that he would probably rap on does that make me a good rapper? Like these dudes seem like they are just imitating old rappers. IMO ASAP Ferg one of the best things to happen to NYC in a min. Folks fail to realize we are the "napster/lime wire" generation. Kids in Harlem growing up listening to three 6 mafia and kids in Atlanta growing up on dipset, having a fusion sound is inevitable.

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Ludacris didn't listen to Redman?

Jay didn't listen Big Daddy Kane?

Nas, Big Pun didn't listen to Rakim?

M.O.P didn't listen to Onyx?

Wiz never listened to Snoop?

Boot Camp never listened to Wu tang?

The 50 million 2pac clones didn't listen to Pac?

Rappers woulda said F the Popo if N.W.A didn't say it first?

Wasn't Master P trap rap before it was labeled "trap" when T.I was probably in middle school/high school   

 

You bringing up Ferg like he's original :rollin

 

See where I'm going here? I can give you a million examples of flows/style/lyrics that's been borrowed. There's not enough clones in hiphop?  We livin in the clone wars generation

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My point is how many rappers are REALLY in their own lane that are blowing up.... Their are several Artist in NYC who have a distinct sound but there not being picked up because people say they want originality but in fact they don't.

Then the author had the nerve to talk about content??? with the people that noisey constantly plasters on their post he questioning content?... hell it's been done before but Troy Ave has deeper content then 75% of the rappers they post and that's not saying much for Troy Ave
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I think people do consider Action Bronson doing something different/innovative, other than the people who call him a "GFK ripoff".

What is new or different about him?

subject wise? voice? flow?

The only thing new is he's fat and white

Online people like to anoint the hot artist like it's the flavor of the month, and it has been him and Joey. They have their hipster fanbase and it allows them to travel, I'm not mad at it, but offline it's totally different.

That's why I find it funny dude is devoting an article to someone he doesn't like. That's some online new generation stuff, because now you listen to interviews and troll their social media to develop a dislike for people. I don't care about these dudes enough to dislike them. If I don't like your music, I don't listen to it. Instead of trying to champion who he claims he does like. J Live and Meyhem just released projects. Why not devote that time to introducing this new generation to J Live who's been grinding for around 20 years, has an interesting story, and actually needs the attention.

This is a troll article from a wannabe journalist on some TMZ ****. If this were the 90's he'd be confronted on it, and he would be copping pleas.
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Good article Troy Ave is garbage...


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The level of disrespect in the article and this thread mean.gif
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Good article Troy Ave is garbage...


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Shout outs to Troy. He been grindin for years.

His music ain't nothing special, but he a hustler and he sold himself well

If you don't believe in yourself who will?

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Troy Ave. makes music for dudes who've never stepped foot outside of NYC, but are 100% sure everything is better in NYC laugh.gif

Nah, but forreal dude is a lame and his music sucks.
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Originally Posted by Magic1978 View Post

You have to know who's writing the articles

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People writing opinion articles for clicks mean.gif

So much is wrong with this article. Troy is irrelevant but you write an article about him? Why not write about J Live or Meyhem's project?

Praising Chinx and French who have been doing basically the same thing subject wise, but with a southern sound.

If this were the 90's he wouldn't have written this article, because there would be repercussions.....

Opportunistic and out of touch bozo. mean.gif Sounds like the wanna be editor/journalist.

These same white boys y'all claim to hate so much are the ones that actually buy the albums & go to shows. THEY suppose the artist. 

 

Troy Ave is the personification of everything everyone hates about NYC rappers

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He got some nice beats
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They're hating hard !!!!

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post #77 of 1187

This guy sucks something terrible...but if French made it...he can.

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I think people do consider Action Bronson doing something different/innovative, other than the people who call him a "GFK ripoff".

What is new or different about him?

subject wise? voice? flow?

The only thing new is he's fat and white

Online people like to anoint the hot artist like it's the flavor of the month, and it has been him and Joey. They have their hipster fanbase and it allows them to travel, I'm not mad at it, but offline it's totally different.

That's why I find it funny dude is devoting an article to someone he doesn't like. That's some online new generation stuff, because now you listen to interviews and troll their social media to develop a dislike for people. I don't care about these dudes enough to dislike them. If I don't like your music, I don't listen to it. Instead of trying to champion who he claims he does like. J Live and Meyhem just released projects. Why not devote that time to introducing this new generation to J Live who's been grinding for around 20 years, has an interesting story, and actually needs the attention.

This is a troll article from a wannabe journalist on some TMZ ****. If this were the 90's he'd be confronted on it, and he would be copping pleas.

Nobody is ever really bringing anything new technically, but I give props to a lot of new guys putting a fresh spin on the old, or doing their best to re-create/pay homage to the old. As far as Bronson, he just stands out all the way around. I don't see how anyone can listen to any of his projects and not feel good about his take on NY. That type of sound is exactly what I want to hear. I don't listen to much Joey Bad*****, but from all the tracks I've heard from him, dude can spit like crazy, and does a pretty good job of paying homage to that old sound. Troy Ave to me is simply regurgitating old street tales, as if he may as well be doing karaoke. That "New York City" track with NORE, Rae, and Prodigy really just exposes the hell out of him. He's just a super generic rapper. Just empty background noise. There's many other NY artists that simply do what he does but so much better.
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They're hating hard !!!!

.. troy ave is freshhh !! .. although hes no Takeover x koudieluv !! smokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gif


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Alright Troy Ave is all good now
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Troy ave IS the future of NY

**** the haters
**** the weirdos

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This guy sucks something terrible...but if French made it...he can.

Amen
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To say that Troy Ave is an opportunistic, out-of-touch bozo who does not actually represent the hopes, dreams, and realities of New York rap fans is to state the obvious

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Troy Ave. makes music for dudes who've never stepped foot outside of NYC, but are 100% sure everything is better in NYC laugh.gif

Nah, but forreal dude is a lame and his music sucks.


Naw what happen was, a lot of cats caught feelings when Troy started talking about weirdos, because it applied to a rapper they mess with or them

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These same white boys y'all claim to hate so much are the ones that actually buy the albums & go to shows. THEY suppose the artist.

Troy Ave is the personification of everything everyone hates about NYC rappers


If you aren't from the culture, I don't care what you say about the culture. The music isn't for you in the first place.
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I'm not really a fan of Troy Ave's music, but man that article was a bit much.
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Action Bronson and Roc Marciano have been two of my favorite artists for the last few years.
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Article would've had a great point devoid the emotion.

Dude sounds like Troy smashed his chick or mom.

I actually like Troy's last album, can't front. But the whole pro-ny/ anti-hipster persona does mak him seem wild out of touch, and will alienate him from reaching fans, even those in NY.

He may earn the enthusiasm of nonsensical NY enthusiast who may still believe the world wasn't ready for Papoose.

But to the rest of us, Nahh.
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He may earn the enthusiasm of nonsensical NY enthusiast who may still believe the world wasn't ready for Papoose.

But to the rest of us, Nahh.

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Troy Ave. makes music for dudes who've never stepped foot outside of NYC, but are 100% sure everything is better in NYC laugh.gif

Nah, but forreal dude is a lame and his music sucks.


Naw what happen was, a lot of cats caught feelings when Troy started talking about weirdos, because it applied to a rapper they mess with or them

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These same white boys y'all claim to hate so much are the ones that actually buy the albums & go to shows. THEY suppose the artist.

Troy Ave is the personification of everything everyone hates about NYC rappers


If you aren't from the culture, I don't care what you say about the culture. The music isn't for you in the first place.
What makes dudes like Kendrick weirdos though? If anything Kendrick is just a dude who grew up in the hood but wasn't banging himself.

A dude like Rocky might go too far with his fashion statements but aside from that who says every dude outta NYC has to fit into the typical image or role that NYC rappers do?
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Same exact writer will give his cosign to trash like this lol.
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What makes dudes like Kendrick weirdos though? If anything Kendrick is just a dude who grew up in the hood but wasn't banging himself.

A dude like Rocky might go too far with his fashion statements but aside from that who says every dude outta NYC has to fit into the typical image or role that NYC rappers do?

But it's his opinion though.

So why does his opinion matter to you?

It's not that deep. Troy Ave's comments shouldn't matter that much to anyone. It's not like you can change his opinion or would confront him on his opinion.

It's like the Jay-Z and Nas thing. How people are still hyped ten years later off what someone else said about someone else they don't know. Ya'll get wrapped up in defending the honor of people who don't care about you.

Dudes are funny how they will dislike someone and catch feelings just based on what they said about someone else they like. Especially when dude is saying stuff that people are saying from behind their computers.

If someone on a message board said Danny Brown or AB Soul were weirdos, who would think twice about it?
If they mentioned New York artist d-ridin the south, who would think twice about it?
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