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Actually I don't care about nike logos on the insoles as you usually don't see them when they are worn smile.gif
But JB should fix the nike logos on the upper and outsoles, fix design details like toe box shapes, lace loops and jumpman facing the correct direction.

I agree with you but JB really don't have to do any of that. They know if the slap NA on them they will sell out regardless.
come on man, now it's a business tactic to slap NA on stuff when people have been wanting it for years?
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post #4712 of 4891
Yeah, if you think that putting NA on them and rising the prices isn't a business tactic I don't know what too tell you.
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I have personally been impressed by a number of the remastered shoes that released this year.

I was impressed with the following: columbia and oreo IV's, BOB's (bulls over broadway), Chicago I's, SBB I's

I was not impressed by the following: statue (spirit) IX's (felt them in person and I was not impressed with the leather, Chicago X's (I thought they were very nice but the BOB leather was way softer), Bordeaux and Hare 7's.

It's just not consistent with every shoe unfortunately. What do you guys think? What have you been impressed with/not impressed with so far?
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Anyone know what the Oreo 4's are going for in a size 9? Been wanting to pick them up for a long time and I see them going for retail, or in some cases below retail, on the Bay. Just wanted other opinions.

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I have personally been impressed by a number of the remastered shoes that released this year.

I was impressed with the following: columbia and oreo IV's, BOB's (bulls over broadway), Chicago I's, SBB I's

I was not impressed by the following: statue (spirit) IX's (felt them in person and I was not impressed with the leather, Chicago X's (I thought they were very nice but the BOB leather was way softer), Bordeaux and Hare 7's.

It's just not consistent with every shoe unfortunately. What do you guys think? What have you been impressed with/not impressed with so far?

JB has really been burning me out the last few years with bad quality, so my only purchase has been Hare VII,
and Black/Red low XIII on a whim.
I tried on French VII, and Columbia+Oreo IV

I do find the comfort and padding to be slightly improved over recent years. And the leather quality seems better
But my biggest problem has been the terrible shape of 4,5 and 7, which JB completely failed to fix.
So overall, I give the "remaster" a D+
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JB has really been burning me out the last few years with bad quality, so my only purchase has been Hare VII,
and Black/Red low XIII on a whim.
I tried on French VII, and Columbia+Oreo IV

I do find the comfort and padding to be slightly improved over recent years. And the leather quality seems better
But my biggest problem has been the terrible shape of 4,5 and 7, which JB completely failed to fix.
So overall, I give the "remaster" a D+

You didn't like the Oreo or Columbia 4's? I liked them a lot and thought the leather was great on both. Did you just not like the shape?

I had the Hare 7's from the CDP pack which is why I didn't cop this year's hares.
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JB has really been burning me out the last few years with bad quality, so my only purchase has been Hare VII,
and Black/Red low XIII on a whim.
I tried on French VII, and Columbia+Oreo IV

I do find the comfort and padding to be slightly improved over recent years. And the leather quality seems better
But my biggest problem has been the terrible shape of 4,5 and 7, which JB completely failed to fix.
So overall, I give the "remaster" a D+

You didn't like the Oreo or Columbia 4's? I liked them a lot and thought the leather was great on both. Did you just not like the shape?

I had the Hare 7's from the CDP pack which is why I didn't cop this year's hares.

Ya, it was pretty much just the shape.
Materials seemed adequate, but I couldn't abide by the decade old unacceptable shape, considering all the hype JB put out about the "remaster"
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Ya, it was pretty much just the shape.
Materials seemed adequate, but I couldn't abide by the decade old unacceptable shape, considering all the hype JB put out about the "remaster"

Gotcha. Well, if you ever see a pair for cheap, I'd highly recommend them. They're super comfortable man. I think some of the comfort on the newer retros has been great.
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Yeah, if you think that putting NA on them and rising the prices isn't a business tactic I don't know what too tell you.
raising the price yea I guess, but giving people what these been whining about for years, nah

also funny how people got what they want and now they try and toss conspiracies or just hate on jb for it
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Yeah, if you think that putting NA on them and rising the prices isn't a business tactic I don't know what too tell you.
raising the price yea I guess, but giving people what these been whining about for years, nah

also funny how people got what they want and now they try and toss conspiracies or just hate on jb for it


IMO JB's not giving people what they want because they care about their consumers, JB is putting NA on retros because hype is at an all time high and they know they can use NA to sell people the same shoes they already have for a higher price. When NA should have been on them all along.
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IMO JB's not giving people what they want because they care about their consumers, JB is putting NA on retros because hype is at an all time high and they know they can use NA to sell people the same shoes they already have for a higher price. When NA should have been on them all along.

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My mistake for thinking N/A was on the heel of the Xs. The jumpman were facing opposite direction. 

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My mistake for thinking N/A was on the heel of the Xs. The jumpman were facing opposite direction. 
I think the XI's were the last jordan shoe to have Nike branding on them
post #4724 of 4891
"Remastered" as in they are using OK materials now instead of crap materials they been using. And they make it seem like they r doing something special when in fact they r doing the basics
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"Remastered" as in they are using OK materials now instead of crap materials they been using. And they make it seem like they r doing something special when in fact they r doing the basics

 

I haven't been picking up a lot of JB releases this year, but I usually make a trip to the store to check out the materials.

 

The leather quality is much softer compared to what we were getting.

 

I felt the chrome 6 lows yesterday and was instantly pissed!!! They should have used that type of quality nubuck on the infrared 6s last year

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Infrareds, Bordeauxs, black metallic 5s, Chicagos and Concords are my top 5.

 

Guess what stayed on the shelf last year. The blue tinted outsole, the 'jumpman air'  on the heel ( I cant even describe how much I hate that) and the materials were a deal breaker. All the 3M did was pour salt in the wound for me. 2000 was a very good year.... though the Concords were a far cry from the OG (Im looking at you, ankle support). I really dont understand Jordans problem with making the shoes how they were originally designed. Just do it, amirite?

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DECEMBER 02, 2015
JORDAN BRAND EVOLVES THE RETRO REMASTER
For fervent fans, each Air Jordan stirs a distinct memory. One may recall the 63 points scored in the Air Jordan I, another the last-second heroics performed in the Air Jordan IV. These memories are refreshed with Retro releases. Part of the Retro Remaster initiative, they celebrate the legacy of the greatest player in history and introduce it to new generations

 

Jordan Brand launched the Retro Remaster initiative in Spring 2015. In response to consumer feedback, it incorporates enhanced color options, cushioning, materials and shapes while retaining each shoe’s original character. The brand continues to evolve the remastering process by reintroducing the Nike Air logo on the heels of storied silhouettes. The decision, which honors original designs like never before, was approved by Michael Jordan and debuts this weekend on the Air Jordan 6 Retro “Maroon.” The Air Jordan 4 Retro “Cement,” which drops next February, will receive the same treatment

 

When it comes to recreating Jordan favorites, Vice President of Jordan Footwear, Yuron White, mentions color and materials as being extremely important. “The Retro Remaster initiative brought us to an incredible place last year,” he explains. “While we were focused on the external appearance of the shoe and being historically accurate in year one, we are now diving into the internal part: innovation of the fit, feel and comfort of the shoes."

To ensure every aspect of a Retro is accurate, Jordan Brand Footwear Team turn to the Nike Archives, sourcing original shoes to check finishes, leather texture, temper and even thread color. But getting the color and materials right doesn't mean anything without the final step: development and production. Currently, there are dedicated factory lines and factory groups working exclusively on Jordan Retros, which are crafted with unprecedented attention to detail

 

THE FAN-FAVORITE AIR JORDAN 6 RETRO 'MAROON' FEATURES A PREMIUM LEATHER UPPER, ICY OUTSOLE AND NIKE AIR HEEL LOGO THAT MATCH THE 1991 ORIGINAL.
LAUNCHING DECEMBER 5, 2015

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THE LAST TIME THE NIKE AIR LOGO APPEARED ON AN AIR JORDAN IV WAS 16 YEARS AGO, IN TWO ORIGINAL COLORS: BLACK/CEMENT GREY-RED AND WHITE/CEMENT-BLACK.
LAUNCHING FEBRUARY 2016

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #4728 of 4891
And with those ogs in the bag
Let's kill that Jordan Brand lost the molds rumor
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post #4729 of 4891
Pretty sure Nike has a vault full of original models and samples
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And with those ogs in the bag
Let's kill that Jordan Brand lost the molds rumor

JB's got some nerve putting the OG's right next to the still totally jacked up retro's
Major flaws on every single pair of supposed remasters above, but JB acting like they've figured it all out
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JB's got some nerve putting the OG's right next to the still totally jacked up retro's
Major flaws on every single pair of supposed remasters above, but JB acting like they've figured it all out

It has a lot to do with the materials used that affects the shape too. Nike isn't really bothered about corners being cut on material and shape because most people that buy retros aren't using them for their intended purpose....basketball.
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JB's got some nerve putting the OG's right next to the still totally jacked up retro's
Major flaws on every single pair of supposed remasters above, but JB acting like they've figured it all out

Minus the shape, feel and materials they did figure it out!
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And the manipulation continues. .
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Minus the shape, feel and materials they did figure it out!

haha too true my friend

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It has a lot to do with the materials used that affects the shape too. Nike isn't really bothered about corners being cut on material and shape because most people that buy retros aren't using them for their intended purpose....basketball.

It mostly just irritates me because JB put out all this BS about remastering.
Prior to 2015, I was disappointed in the quality and accuracy of retros, but I always figured JB just didn't care, so I quietly copped the ones I liked and skipped the ones i didn't

Now they claim to be bringing back the OG quality, and yet its just the same ol' basura
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laugh.gif Wow.. Nike/JBs sly way of letting people know they're gonna jack up the cost another $30 on retros, for a total of $50 in 2 years. For "Evolved Remastered Retros." mean.gif We'll prob be looking at $300 Js in the next couple years.. Another increase for "premium materials" and then for "original molds."
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How can they not see its not the same in those comparison pics? I really really hope that lady with the maroon 6 and the color swatch doesn't think that's a match. But then I'm like 'well, why else would she be holding it up to the camera like that?'

 

What's going on with the NIKE on the back of the 4's? Why is it so far left like that?  Do they not see how much higher that bit of stitched leather is under the heel tab on the OG? It's right freaking there to compare with...

 

At least the toe looks better I guess.

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look at it. Look at how the OG heel tab is wider and the number of stitches/width of leather between it and the lace wing. Look at the pitch of the cut of leather from the wing down on the bottom of the heel. Why is it more rounded? The collar at the top doesn't follow the lace wing like the OG nor does it have the sharp angle up at the ankle. Infact, the whole collar needs to be raised a few mm. Also, the leather on the tongue stops on the outside while the OG has it tucked over to the inside. I won't mention the hight of the tongue itself.

 

Also, get that 2012 pair to the incinerator. It shouldnt be anywhere near that room.

post #4738 of 4891
∆∆ Biggest troll move ever, IMO...lets throw the OGs right next to it then claim we cant recreate it. FOH with that...
post #4739 of 4891
If JB retros cost $300, I'm sure myself as well as many others will be out for good, If we're being completely transparent
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Mettalic Vs.. nthat.gif can't wait for those. My 99s are toast.
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