Studies Suggest If All Mental Illness Is Cured In The Country Violence Would Only Go Down About 4% (

 
guns provide a sense of "power" that makes it easier to kill
I'm just curious what all the NTers who argue that guns aren't the problem, mental illness is and that without curing psychoses that people will find other means to mass kill.

These studies show that if anything, mentally ill people have more violent thoughts but actually act on them less often than "normal" people because the proclivity to violence is shown by another set of indicators separate from just mental illness.

The propensity to commit crime is a better indicator than schizophrenia.
 
No ONE thing is the problem, true, but some things contribute MORE to the problem.
The article above suggests the fact that there are as many people as guns contributes more than mental illness does.

It even acknowledges that the solution would be to just take away handguns but because of the constitution that'll never be an option.

It then suggests universal background checks,which most people in this thread are staunchly against.  Or even taking away the guns people ALREADY have if they show enough of these predictive markers.
 
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i cant afford to live in a hypothetical world where all mental health is "cured"......lmao the article says fact vs myth....and is based on the premise that all mental health is "healed"




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so Nako XL, realistically, in your opinion, what's the solution?

The way I see it, Pandora's box has already been open for the last 120 years. There are over 300 million guns in this country.

FWIW, one thing you haven't mentioned is the fact that mass shooting/school shooting events make up an almost statistically insignificant number of gun deaths in the America. About half of gun deaths are suicide, that is absolutely a mental health issue.

As far as violence committed against other people, economic policies, housing discrimination, quality of education and disparity of wealth would probably have more influence than so called "universal background checks"
 
i cant afford to live in a hypothetical world where all mental health is "cured"......lmao the article says fact vs myth....and is based on the premise that all mental health is "healed"




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"b-b-but a professor at duke wrote this!"



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Responding a week later to post that?  Weak.

You didn't read the article did you?  It's ok.  You're a troll.  We all know it.

The article isn't based on the premise that all "mental health is healed" as you put it.  It isn't even based on the premise that all mental illness is healed.  He plainly states in the interview that that's an unrealistic premise.

He also states that people need to realize even if it were possible that all it would do is affect the crime rate 4% because mental illness isn't the only problem.

But you didn't know that, because you didn't read the article did you?

It's ok.  We know you didn't.

Troll.
 
so Nako XL, realistically, in your opinion, what's the solution?

The way I see it, Pandora's box has already been open for the last 120 years. There are over 300 million guns in this country.

FWIW, one thing you haven't mentioned is the fact that mass shooting/school shooting events make up an almost statistically insignificant number of gun deaths in the America. About half of gun deaths are suicide, that is absolutely a mental health issue.

As far as violence committed against other people, economic policies, housing discrimination, quality of education and disparity of wealth would probably have more influence than so called "universal background checks"
I agree with everything you're saying.

But if universal background checks can help, out of the list of things that tend to lend to more violence, wouldn't it be the easiest to institute today while working on closing the economic and education gaps?

What I don't get is why people keep claiming that since there's more than 1 cause of the problem, we shouldn't try to fix any of them.
 
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(this dude been begging me to respond to this thread....lmao then i respond and he has "jokes". why would i read the article some dude from duke wrote? it's not fact, as you like to put it. it's his theory. at the end of the day people are asking you what YOUR idea of addressing the problem is, and you KEEP dodging because the answer is YOU HAVE NO ANSWER. why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO ANSWER......keep posting academic papers to prove your non-point tho...)
 
But that's not at all realistic....



we're not going realism here, we're talking about

a.) a utopian society where guns don't exist

or

b.) a utopian society where violence doesn't exist


neither are even remotely realistic.
 
i've answered several times what i think could be done. as recently as two posts above. you don't read though do you enpherior?
 
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