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Congrats man
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Whats the new gig?
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Congrats manDid you start class yet for your MS program?
Yea, approaching midterms soon. Everything is going good for the most part, plan on structring my curriculum more towards PM stuff but will still take a few programming classes to brush up and keep some good hardskills on my resume.
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Sr analyst gig with a consulting company.
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How do you like the program? I am pursuing the PM concentration within my program .I am finding my program to be very easy so far I am only taking an intro to Sys Eng class right now, but I thought a Masters program would be much more challenging (not complaining lol).
Congrats on the senior gig. How many years of experience do you have?
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My only issue is new students were forced to register during late registration for majority classes were full so I didnt really get to pick classes i wanted to take but more so what had space, but the classes arent bad, one is Database auditing and security so im brushing up on my SQL, the other is Infrastructure defense so im learning alot about ethical hacking, its an intresting class but i dont too much care for it.
And Masters programs are easier than undergrad since majority of it is hands on and case study and stuff you actually care about. Undergrad making you take unrelated pre reqs and general courses is dumb imo, as its stuff that should have been taught in HS lol only reason i didnt graduate undergrad with a 3.8 or higher is because first two yrs were full of classes i didnt care anything about.
And as of July Im 3 yrs into my career (4 yrs if you count helpdesk gig in college).
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@LuckyLuchiano wow senior gig with only 4 years of experience. I would definitely have to make a company switch to get above a mid level position within 5 years.
Well we are writing a lot of responses for home work so far, but this only last for the first half of the semester (midterm 10-15 pg paper
). After midterms we will be working on a group project for the remainder of the course I can't wait until then.
Well we are writing a lot of responses for home work so far, but this only last for the first half of the semester (midterm 10-15 pg paper
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Gig is senior in title but responsibilities i guess would he more mid level, its a lead role but non management (no one reports to me)
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I was an Oracle DBA for a year. I hated it. You don't use SQL all that much as an admin; I used unix and linux commands far more often. It's really dry operational work. If a backup failed or the performance isn't up to par, youre not leaving work until it's running optimally again. Oracle is harder to learn than SQL server and any other DBMS though. On the plus side, Oracle DBAs are some of the highest paid in tech that doesnt involve management.
You don't need any certs but be familiar with RDBMS as well as NoSQL. MongoDB (NoSQL) has free online courses you can take. It's unlikely much of what you learn in class (creating databases) will be applicable to the job but understanding how RDBMS works is fundamental.
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That is still good, the title should help resume wise right?
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Systems analyst? I'm a BSA
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Title is King, once you have it, there's no going back. And i'd definitely add the lead bit to the title on your resume. Since there's a few BA/SA/BSA in here, what does the job entail? Management is my goal, i'd love to learn more of the technical/business needs side.
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a BSA and BA are similar kinda the same. BSA is used more so as it relates to IT infrastructure of a company/clients while BA is more used in Software Dev but BA is also used when it comes to Finance, Data Analysis, etc. Pretty much you are the middle man that works with the technical team and are the point of contact for the Non Technical End Users/Clients/Business. So while in a BA/BSA role you will not be doing the technical dirty work, a technical understanding will set you apart from others. A System Analyst is a more technical role than BA as they tend to code depending on situation.
Many times Technical resources aren't the most sociable and only understand the technical specifics and now how these things impact the company on a business scale (as most executives only care about how something impacts their company reputation and cost and can careless about the syntax, how good the code looks, etc). So from a Management Standpoint a BA/BSA has a better shot at becoming a manager, while the Technical counterparts may end up becoming Team SMEs/Consultants who know the system/infrastructure like the back of their hands. In this day and age though you set yourself apart having business and tech knowledge. For example Bill Gates was waaaaay more technical than Steve Jobs but Steve jobs was a business genius and knew enough about the Technical side to do what he needed to do.
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Okay thats what I thought, the title leads you to higher salaries correct? Whether someone reports to you or not?
Lucky came up, guy at my job just left the company had been here for 5 years (since graduation) and was only a Software Engineer II.
Not sure what type of position title he has now, but he was telling me that when you reach 5 years you can pretty much demand any salary, within reason of course.
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That's such a contradicting statement lol
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I just added within reason, because it is implied but on here someone would go to the NT Extremes.
Obviously you can't ask for ANY salary lol. I said within reason meaning you can't ask for 200K, but 100K-120K would be fine.
This is all relative of course.
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I understood what he was trying to imply, it's just a funny way of saying it cause that same statement applies for a janitor with no experience. You can get fairly close to $200k in the bay area as a senior developer working for the right company though.
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A janitor with no experience can't demand a salary...they get what they get.
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A janitor can demand what he/she wants, so long as it's within reason (obviously pretty low)
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Nice breakdown. I'm a systems configuration analyst. I have to know the technical and business side. I write BRD's as well as technical "dirty work." I don't have to write FRD's, but I know how to. I'm thinking about applying for a technical project management position in the next few months. I think I'm ready for that now.
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Good looks.
Yeah the next step from a lead is management. I'm sure he's managing/coordinating something, working with others. If he plays politics right, after a while he can jump into a management role and start plotting on Director. Probably have to change companies, or you can be one of the lucky folks that are promoted through those steps, still doing the same thing, still no direct reports.
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Go get it famb, I come across so many technical pm's that aren't worth a damn.
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Appreciate the info. What was your path to land the job you had?
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getting my offer letter tommorow for company A. Anything i should know about?
Also i got another interview with Company B. this time with the head of the Dept. Should i let them know whats up or just keep going till i get both offers? Company B is telling that they are trying to fast track the process due to the lack of staffing that they have. I prefer this company since its in SF an pays more.
Also i got another interview with Company B. this time with the head of the Dept. Should i let them know whats up or just keep going till i get both offers? Company B is telling that they are trying to fast track the process due to the lack of staffing that they have. I prefer this company since its in SF an pays more.
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He's not that type of dude that would want to get into management very quiet low key dude. He didn't even tell us he had put in his 2 weeks, just showed up on his last day like "aight yal nice working with you" lol. He's cool though, I am curious what route he went. He was telling me he wanted to do more GUI development.
You think that it is still possible to grind it out with 1 company and make it to director? I think I have a shot with my current company after 10-15 years, but the guys that are in those positions now have been for the past 10-15 years, so I am not sure if they would let me into the technical/business upper management. A few of the directors/VPs really like me, but I still don't know if that is enough.
@ricerocket1 Don't let them know anything until an offer is on the table or they give you a verbal offer and open up negotiations.
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