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Man. Those top movers and shakers. Just milking the government.


CASH COWS :lol .

 

Starting a minority owned small defense contractor business might be my ultimate goal , just a small slice of the pie .01% and your eating.

Know a guy with 3 small minority owned defense contractor businesses that make 18M/yr he's chilling hard .

 

 

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I feel wild stupid turning down a high visibility Northrop Grumman gig because it was lateral at the time not thinking ahead.


Just apply to a bunch of positions man , you should be able to land something . Then start maneuvering .

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Starting a minority owned small defense contractor business ....please talk more about this...i'm interested 

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Originally Posted by WorldGoneMad View Post

anyone ever get too comfortable in the help desk role?

i mean, its so chill... taking calls, sending tickets to the proper team or fixing the issue while remoting in in a temperature controlled room.

I guess the pay isnt anything too great but yea... i feel like I should start studying for my security plus now but i just started this help desk role and i dont mind it tbh.

but i have worked in desktop support for 2.5 years prior so i need to move on out of help desk/desktop support.

also, is it a good idea to get your network + before your security?

@WorldGoneMad

I don't think there is nothing wrong with help desk or desktop support a lot of people in the IT industry look at the help desk as an entry level positon which it really isn't. It takes some really good troubleshooting skills and customer service skills to do that job on the daily. Plus its your first line of support for your company for employees to call when they are having IT difficulties. Its a must needed role but its severely underpaid. I wish folks at help desk and desktop would protest and show these companies that cant run a network without them.

If the help desk position has potential for growth than stay. I saw a guy start at the bottom of the help desk stayed for a couple years next thing you know he was the manager of it.

I have Net+ and I would say its is worth it to understand how a network runs and talks before you should learn how to secure it. The more knowledge the better.
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@WorldGoneMad

I don't think there is nothing wrong with help desk or desktop support a lot of people in the IT industry look at the help desk as an entry level positon which it really isn't. It takes some really good troubleshooting skills and customer service skills to do that job on the daily. Plus its your first line of support for your company for employees to call when they are having IT difficulties. Its a must needed role but its severely underpaid. I wish folks at help desk and desktop would protest and show these companies that cant run a network without them.

If the help desk position has potential for growth than stay. I saw a guy start at the bottom of the help desk stayed for a couple years next thing you know he was the manager of it.

I have Net+ and I would say its is worth it to understand how a network runs and talks before you should learn how to secure it. The more knowledge the better.

yeah after 5 years in Help desk or desktop support you should try to branch out. its very underpaid and managers , directors and such often think the job is easily replaceable. I advise people daily to get your certs and move along 10 years help desk and desktop is max because you can be promoted to different tiers within that time while gaining knowledge and experience.
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After a couple months of searching for a summer internship, I heard back from a few companies for interviews. Seems like March and April are the prime months for hiring. I have an in person interview with a company as an R & D intern next Wednesday and a video interview for another company in the next few days. Has anyone here worked R&D? Pros? Cons? Overall opinion?
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man it was actually quite peaceful, there was a stigma in Qatar if you committed a crime the penalties were quite hefty and they had cameras on every block in that country. I found it crazy being my first time out there as a contractor to find many American companies they even had a TGI Fridays. laugh.gif I was in country during Ramadan and found out the hard way but other than that you will stick out like an American but they aint messing with you in Qatar like that. It was hot as hell out there tho 100+ degrees in the middle of the night and it rained 1 time over there in the 6 months I was there sick.gif


That's good to know. Are most places closed during Ramandan? Do you have to stock up on food during that time? Sorry about all the questions laugh.gif.
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@ForerunnerADL
 thanks man, yeah was just a leap of faith. Been my goal to get overseas since undergrad, coding was just a tool to help me get here.


That's why I got into coding too. I don't see myself doing it much longer, starting to look at other options.
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That's good to know. Are most places closed during Ramandan? Do you have to stock up on food during that time? Sorry about all the questions laugh.gif.

yea you couldn't be out during the day time, cant have exposed skin like wearing shorts, and you ate during the night to name a few. I worked with some of the nationals working outside in 100+ degree weather and they didnt eat lunch or breakfast sick.gif It was soo hot out there man it wears you out quickly
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I just started working in a Application Support Role with a non profit healthcare company. A recruiter has been on my tail about another position and she offered me between 16-18k to jump ship.DK what to do because I'm just nearing my 90 days at the health company. mean.gif
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Originally Posted by LarryEastwood View Post

I just started working in a Application Support Role with a non profit healthcare company. A recruiter has been on my tail about another position and she offered me between 16-18k to jump ship.DK what to do because I'm just nearing my 90 days at the health company. mean.gif
Scope out the other place, but 18k a pretty significant sum to ignore
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Originally Posted by Rafkin Johnson View Post
 

Starting a minority owned small defense contractor business ....please talk more about this...i'm interested 

I can't really tell you more I don't know what it takes to get one up and running. Not something I am doing in the near future.

 

 

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That's why I got into coding too. I don't see myself doing it much longer, starting to look at other options.

I think thats the best use for coding if you aren't in love with it. 

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Hey guys,

Im thinking of going back to school (Currently have Bachelors in non IT major) and obtaining a AS in Computer Science.
Is this even worth it?

Thank you
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@WorldGoneMad

I don't think there is nothing wrong with help desk or desktop support a lot of people in the IT industry look at the help desk as an entry level positon which it really isn't. It takes some really good troubleshooting skills and customer service skills to do that job on the daily. Plus its your first line of support for your company for employees to call when they are having IT difficulties. Its a must needed role but its severely underpaid. I wish folks at help desk and desktop would protest and show these companies that cant run a network without them.

If the help desk position has potential for growth than stay. I saw a guy start at the bottom of the help desk stayed for a couple years next thing you know he was the manager of it.

I have Net+ and I would say its is worth it to understand how a network runs and talks before you should learn how to secure it. The more knowledge the better.

laugh.gif

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a lot of what you said here and here's why:

First off I've been working in the IT industry for 15+ years and most of it has been help desk, desktop support, and even sys admin & sys engineer jobs.

Help desk (call center environment) jobs: It is rightfully viewed as entry level as entry level tier 1 because like you said that person in that role is the 1st line of support. Most people who enter these jobs are usually are starting out in they're careers and are looking to add something to they're resume or are looking to get they're foot in the door with the company.The biggest problem I have with this type of work and why I'll NEVER go back to doing it is because the work environment is always terrible. It's a micro managed job, it's stressful because the person is always dealing with meeting certain stats, being audited, & reviewed on your calls, 70% of the time in this job role is more customer service related and pleasing the people you support instead of actual trouble shooting over the phone or remoting into a persons pc to try and resolve whatever issue they have. But mainly just being on the phone & sitting at a desk or cubicle for 8 or 10 hours a day just sucks and is so un healthy.

The #1 reason why this job is underpaid and is not valued so much today is because a lot of companies small, medium, or big have gone the route of outsourcing the help desk jobs to 3rd world countries like the Philippines & India.
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Originally Posted by freshKRN View Post

Hey guys,

Im thinking of going back to school (Currently have Bachelors in non IT major) and obtaining a AS in Computer Science.
Is this even worth it?

Thank you


Depends on what you are getting the CS degree for, also you really need a BS not AS in Comp Sci .

If you are interested in a bootcamp instead I think some people in the Programming thread have done one .

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