2014 NBA Off-Season; Paul George suffers a double-compund-fracture, likely out for season. Speedy re

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Lance doesn't seem like the type to show off.

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Stern vetoed because he owned the team and didn't approve the trade. So stop.

CP3 and Kobe don't even fit at all.
 
Stern didn't own the team. When a team has no owner it is up to the other owners to pay that team's payroll. So 29 owners had to pay the Hornets salary. The trade involving CP3 to LAL meant the Hornets were picking up an extra $14 million in salary. That also meant at the time 29 other owners were picking up that extra $14 million in salary. It's very understandable why they would veto the trade. Why would anyone pay an extra $500k and get nothing in return but it helps another team? That wouldn't make any sense.
 
DMan14 said:
all this fiba talk, just curious, what happened to the greek shaq?
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he s playing for maccabi tel aviv , his name is schortsianitis but he has loads of weight issues and not enough IQ and will to play at top professional level

about who you cut from team usa its simple :

hayward
derozan
drummond/plumlee
parsons

he has to cut 2-3 SFs for sure , he aint cuttin any pgs and 1 big man is vut for sure. hayward is a godamn rookie , he has no playoff experience or games under pressure , parsons is good but thompson is far better in every attribute , derozan is good but gay is just better ( more athletic, clutchest , better defender , better shooter.

korver aint gonna get cut you always need a 3pt shooter like him , a lillard/thompson/korver/farried/davis lineup would be sick , deadly 3pt guards and 2 bigs with hella lot of hustle,vertical and rebound8n ability
 
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Bonez7 said:
Srs...n I don't even got no hate for bron

The nba likes to have that one guy and Kobe on his way out...
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Pretty muchmuch. They found that formula works, to have that one guy as the face of the league. The NBA was struggling, then along comes Bird and Magic. Once they got older, theythe league was saved by MJ, who helped turn the NBA into a global brand. Then comes Kobe, then Bron, they're tryna make KD the next up but he can't get it done in the championship column. And as long as the Spurs unit remains healthy, and Jaundice remains at the point for OKC, he won't.
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So Kobe was the face of the league after MJ when it took Kobe 12 years to win his first MVP and 13 years to win his first finals MVP?
 
Yeah, y'all talking that tin foil hat stuff again.


The cp3 veto was pretty odd though and they could easily veto the love trade. "Need a reason", they're in charge. That's all the reason they need. "Basketball reasons" :lol:
 
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frink85 said:
But cp3 wanted out and was a FA within a year or two no? It would've made more sense to trade him for picks and young players/short contracts. Would a prospective owner rather have Chris Paul that's gonna walk in a year or two, or dragic, kmart, a first rounder from Houston, and whatever high picks they would've made in subsequent drafts? Surely that would've been better than the Eric Gordon and al-farouq aminu consolation prize


And yes, I'm a salty laker fan
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The Hornets did end up trading CP for young players and picks. They got Gordon, who was in his 4th year, Aminu, who was a second year player, and a highly coveted first round pick that the Clippers had from Minnesota, which was not protected. That pick turned out to be Austin Rivers, but its not Stern or the Clippers' fault he turned out to be a bust. The Hornets also got Chris Kaman's pretty sizeable expiring contract. At the time of the deal, Gordon had shown the talent to be a top SG in the league, who played on both sides of the ball. The biggest knock on him was health issues. But he was viewed as someone with all-star level talent. Aminu was drafted as a project, but showed flashes at times. So, the Clippers deal involved exactly what you said it should - young talent, a high first round pick and one expiring contract.

The Lakers deal, on the other hand, did not. The Hornets were not getting young talent or high picks in that deal. It would have put the Hornets in that no-man's land, where they would have had no real stars, but would be competitive enough to fight for a last playoff spot (and hence put themselves out of prime lottery position).
 
The Lakers deal was absolute **** for a team looking to rebuild. The league kayboshed that trade cause it made no sense for NOLA. They would've gotten exceptionally worse with an incredibly bleak future. Gordon had big talent and appeal at the time.
 
Man that CP3/Kobe nixed deal just shows how rigged the game can be though. Stern didn't approve of Pau going to NO but approved of Eric Gordon? And the Hornets just somehow got the 1st overall pick that year too..
 
HoosierDaddy317 said:
Man that CP3/Kobe nixed deal just shows how rigged the game can be though. Stern didn't approve of Pau going to NO but approved of Eric Gordon? And the Hornets just somehow got the 1st overall pick that year too..
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Pau wasn't going to the Hornets in the proposed trade - he was going to the Rockets.
 
Pau is an old man that wasn't going there. Gordon was a young kid that came off scoring 20 a game. Basketball reasons were logical here.
 
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Will Houston ever get an All-Star PF? Seems like they've been trying for years, get close and miss out. (i.e, Gasol, Bosh) 
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JohnnyRedStorm said:
Pau is an old man that wasn't going there. Gordon was a young kid that came off scoring 20 a game. Basketball reasons were logical here.
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New Orleans was getting Lamar Odom (from LA Lakers), SG Kevin Martin (from HOU Rockets), PF Luis Scola (from HOU Rockets), PG Goran Dragic (from HOU Rockets).
 
Odom was declining heavy then. Kevin Martin is trash. Scola meh. Dragic awesome. They were getting a bunch of guys that guaranteed them to be at best a 7th seed yearly. With Gordon and Aminu, they gambled on something better.
 
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The Hornets were not getting young talent
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False. The Hornets were getting Dragic. They could have also parlayed any of Martin, Odom and Scola for more pieces and/or picks.

At the time it was a decent deal but the Clippers' deal was superior, just not by much. In retrospect the Lakers' deal would have been the better option because Dragic turned out to be a budding star and the pieces the Hornets got back are just
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JohnnyRedStorm said:
Odom was declining heavy then. Kevin Martin is trash. Scola meh. Dragic awesome. They were getting a bunch of guys that guaranteed them to be at best a 7th seed yearly. With Gordon and Aminu, they gambled on something better.
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Kevin Martin was never trash, still isn't
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don't have to exaggerate to try to make a point

At the time Martin was far from trash
 
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