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Pope got sone nads, I wouldn't **** with the mafia, Pope or not. They'd get reserved seats, extra communion, free wine
Pope Francis Excommunicates the mafia.....Also makes exorcisms official catholic practice.
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Sillyputty out here rustlin jimmies
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Are you serious? My "quote" proved nothing? I literally give you a cited academic source that states that Stalin's state-sponsored atheism killed millions and you say I can't refute what you're arguing? Am I in Bizarro-world?
Your quote proved nothing...as we have stated, Stalin did not let his atheist beliefs act as a motive to kill others.
And your pic is cute, but obviously you're frustrated that you can't refute what we're arguing.
Did you not read what I posted? I guess you missed the part where Christians were persecuted and murdered as a direct result of Soviet state-sponsored atheism. They were killed because religion was not allowed in the Soviet Union, not because they were dissenters, homosexuals, whatever.
But no it wasn't because of atheism. He killed plenty of atheists so that totally invalidates his religious persecution, right?
Basically what you're telling me is that "Stalin killed other people for other reasons so lel your argument is invalid".
lol
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Yeah, no. Not just political reasons. Stalin literally once criticized the Communist Party at a congress meeting for not doing enough to repress religion and disseminate atheism.
I could post more and more actual sources for you to read but obviously you're going to ignore them and repeat the same thing to me over and over again.
I encourage you to do some independent reading on religious persecution in the USSR, the system of state atheism, and the violent stance of Marxism-Leninism on religion in general.
Good luck to ya
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Reasons why we don't put religion threads on General. OP you started this 
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OK.
One example compared to many of the atrocities committed by other religions:
Albigensian Crusade, 1208-49
Algeria, 1992-
Baha'is, 1848-54
Bosnia, 1992-95
Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1901
Christian Romans, 30-313 CE
Croatia, 1991-92
English Civil War, 1642-46
Holocaust, 1938-45
Huguenot Wars, 1562-1598
India, 1992-2002
India: Suttee & Thugs
Indo-Pakistani Partition, 1947
Iran, Islamic Republic, 1979-
Iraq, Shiites, 1991-92
Jews, 1348
Jonestown, 1978
Lebanon 1860 / 1975-92
Molucca Is., 1999-
Mongolia, 1937-39
Northern Ireland, 1974-98
Russian pogroms 1905-06 / 1917-22
St. Bartholemew Massacre, 1572
Shang China, ca. 1300-1050 BCE
Shimabara Revolt, Japan 1637-38
Sikh uprising, India, 1984-91
Spanish Inquisition, 1478-1834
Taiping Rebellion, 1850-64
Thirty Years War, 1618-48
Tudor England
Vietnam, 1800s
Witch Hunts, 1400-1800
Xhosa, 1857
Arab Outbreak, 7th Century CE
Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948-
Al Qaeda, 1993-
Crusades, 1095-1291
Dutch Revolt, 1566-1609
Nigeria, 1990s, 2000s
http://www.examiner.com/article/refuting-the-myth-that-hitler-stalin-and-pol-pot-were-atheists-1
Yes. Sheep will believe in anything.
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LOLOK.
One example compared to many of the atrocities committed by other religions:
Albigensian Crusade, 1208-49
Algeria, 1992-
Baha'is, 1848-54
Bosnia, 1992-95
Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1901
Christian Romans, 30-313 CE
Croatia, 1991-92
English Civil War, 1642-46
Holocaust, 1938-45
Huguenot Wars, 1562-1598
India, 1992-2002
India: Suttee & Thugs
Indo-Pakistani Partition, 1947
Iran, Islamic Republic, 1979-
Iraq, Shiites, 1991-92
Jews, 1348
Jonestown, 1978
Lebanon 1860 / 1975-92
Molucca Is., 1999-
Mongolia, 1937-39
Northern Ireland, 1974-98
Russian pogroms 1905-06 / 1917-22
St. Bartholemew Massacre, 1572
Shang China, ca. 1300-1050 BCE
Shimabara Revolt, Japan 1637-38
Sikh uprising, India, 1984-91
Spanish Inquisition, 1478-1834
Taiping Rebellion, 1850-64
Thirty Years War, 1618-48
Tudor England
Vietnam, 1800s
Witch Hunts, 1400-1800
Xhosa, 1857
Arab Outbreak, 7th Century CE
Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948-
Al Qaeda, 1993-
Crusades, 1095-1291
Dutch Revolt, 1566-1609
Nigeria, 1990s, 2000s
I like how you went from "Stalin never killed for religious reasons" to "OK but that was just one example"
And your list that catalogues human history for a thousand years does nothing to me. I'm aware of everything on your list and I already said I wasn't religious. But you euphoric atheists who think that you're the moral apex of society solely because you lack religion be tripping me out
I was just trying to say that people kill each other regardless of reason. But no, once we rid the earth of religion we'll be at peace and there'll be no conflict
Godspeed to ya
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Hitler was an atheist and actually persecuted many Catholics and etc due to religion. You wanna list crimes? Alright, Stalin mass murders, Hitler mass murders, Adam Lanza murders, etc etc. and basically everyone persecuted minorities and gays. The people, who do that stuff are just bad people. Bad people do bad things, but don't generalize a whole group of people
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People are like this new pope is so personable and nice.
That list, smh. Might as well add, every slavery known to man to it.
Your argument is flawed as hell. What does the pope have to do with mistakes in Catholicism's past? That's like saying I should hate a white person cause his ancestors owned slaves. Logic is super flawed
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Dudes have more love for the Jesuits than the scriptures
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It's never ok to generalized based on a few people...unless its religion. It's ok to say Catholics are all idiots and somehow evil because of the church, but I dare not say white people are all idiots and somehow evil because of the US...every European...Gov. Or that all black people are thugs because of worldstAr...
When will people learn, religion is so much more than the church, it's individual, it can be evil it can do be good, it's like everything else. We always talk about the bad, but religion has done good in the world...started a pretty damn good country, great buildings, then the thousands in cities who help people because of their religion...yea they didn't need religion to do it but they did it because of religion, no ignoring that.
When will people learn, religion is so much more than the church, it's individual, it can be evil it can do be good, it's like everything else. We always talk about the bad, but religion has done good in the world...started a pretty damn good country, great buildings, then the thousands in cities who help people because of their religion...yea they didn't need religion to do it but they did it because of religion, no ignoring that.
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Nah broski. All religious folk are mindless sheeple who support genocide
Get with the times, son
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Dudes have more love for the Jesuits than the scriptures
Or you sound ignorant as hell
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You sound indoctrinated as hell by a ******** religion
..oh, but because they gave you an education, everything is all good and we should all accept the Jesuits into our daily lives.. **** outta here
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It is perfectly acceptable to generalize all catholics. They support the church. They are members. They do not speak out against the evils the organization commits. I've said it before, all Catholics are guilty. Just like all people that supported the Nazi's in WW2, were guilty, whether they killed anyone or not. All KKK members are guilty whether they lynched anyone or not. When you willingly join up with corrupt criminal organization then you endorse their actions.
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All people who supported the gov during slavery and Jim Crow are also guilty, every tax paying citizen who didn't protest...lets round up all old white folk.
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I don't deny that there are people who do good because of their religion but there is so much hypocrisy and ignorance going around amongst its followers it is truly pathetic and I would never take it seriously as a result. You have folks talking about banning gay marriage, denouncing gays as humans, so on and so forth but god said to love your neighbor. You have people having premarital sex but no one acknowledges that's a sin. You have people denying actual proven FACT (science) because according to them god created everything. I mean, the whole premise of religion is to believe in a higher power that you can't see but you think exists - and when used by the wrong people it's a tool for manipulation, used to spread ignorance and hate. This has happened for centuries (i.e. the church saying the world is flat, the church saying everything revolves around Earth, etc.). It just so happens the majority of this country is Christian which is why I believe they are a detriment - they hold the most power and it's scary to see them flex their power over a secular government. Hell 60 percent of Christians in the US can't even name the first book in the Bible. How the hell am I going to trust these people when they spout their propaganda at me? Same goes for Islam and the ridiculousness of Sharia law.
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False comparison bro. A country is not the same as a club/organization/political party.
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Nah...Christians can def name the first book of the bible, idk what Christians you know. And there are Gay churches, and there are a lot of religious scientists, in fact the Catholic Church runs one of the biggest science research centers in the world...but, you read a few articles, saw some YouTube clips and decided you know everything about religion.
Hey, generalize if you want, everyone does, im the furdt to get on stage and tell a blantenly religious joke, but, just know your leaving a lot of good people out in the cold.
I'm equally as scared of white folk in power, they've done more to harm the planet.
Oh a country is an organization/club/political party...that's what gov. is. But further, are you saying gov. Can't commit crimes? The nazis were the official gov. of Germany, so they can be condemned for the Jews but not America for the Negroes?
Hey, generalize if you want, everyone does, im the furdt to get on stage and tell a blantenly religious joke, but, just know your leaving a lot of good people out in the cold.
I'm equally as scared of white folk in power, they've done more to harm the planet.
Oh a country is an organization/club/political party...that's what gov. is. But further, are you saying gov. Can't commit crimes? The nazis were the official gov. of Germany, so they can be condemned for the Jews but not America for the Negroes?
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Many atheists are raised as religious people. That's how they become atheists; they realize how much it's all just a crock of ****. I was raised Catholic and I was always skeptic that I was somehow just to go with the flow that god created everything and his word is law. Then I realized that these people may have good intentions, but the whole thing is hypocritical. There are so many contradictory things in the BIble and yet you wanna brush it off. I've been reading tons of articles for years, have watched videos of credible scientists such as Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins, etc. I would tend to think I'm more of an expert, i.e. I know what the hell I'm talking about in regards to religion and its deceptions.
If you don't believe me: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2009/June/Do-You-Know-Your-Bible-Many-Christians-Dont/
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I'm an agnostic, but I like this guy better than Pope Benedict. At least it seems like he is expressing how to be a good person before becoming a good Catholic. I can respect that.
This...
I feel so bad for people that get brainwashed into believing... The nicest are almost always the mast naive...
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That's the issue, you look at religion as an institution whereas I see it as a group of individuals, just like with anything else, when certain people get power they do harm, others do good. I've been in the church as long as I remember and I've never felt 'deceived' maybe it was because of how my mom raised me, but I was always hip to what was going on and decided to like religion for different reasons.
Idk, I'm just different, can't be lied to when you know the truth, I prefer the heart of religion, that little old lady that walks to the soup kitchen everyday because 'its the Christian thing to do' or the gay dude who felt lost but went to the right church on the right day and found a home...that's religion to me, the mother of four who had no family, no help but goes to church and finds a friend...some food...a job...that's what piss me off about atheists, they give you a million reasons to be wrong and say 'your ignoring x' all the while they don't have the answer (still can't tell us why we are here) and the ignore y and z.
If the popes trying to do good, let him cook, stop vilifying the people.
Idk, I'm just different, can't be lied to when you know the truth, I prefer the heart of religion, that little old lady that walks to the soup kitchen everyday because 'its the Christian thing to do' or the gay dude who felt lost but went to the right church on the right day and found a home...that's religion to me, the mother of four who had no family, no help but goes to church and finds a friend...some food...a job...that's what piss me off about atheists, they give you a million reasons to be wrong and say 'your ignoring x' all the while they don't have the answer (still can't tell us why we are here) and the ignore y and z.
If the popes trying to do good, let him cook, stop vilifying the people.
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But you don't have to do good things in the the name of God... You should do things in the name of the human race... And set examples of why it's good to be a good person, because it will only better the human race.... Not for some fictional power, but for ourselves... Because the only way humans can continue to advance on a positive path is through peace... And imo, the biggest thing holding back peace is the idea of god/religion...