PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE - ISRAELI-TERRORISM AWARENESS THREAD

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Hmm, I wonder how much money they're spending on repairing all the buildings the IDF is bombing. Oh wait who cares about that, it's all about how bad the people of Gaza are 



You're a joke. Wear some flip flops with that shirt.

Oh ya the IDF warns you before they bomb, giving you a whole minute to run away to the next building they're about to bomb. How do you explain all these innocent people that are being killed? They're just standing there waiting to get bombed? You can evade the truth all you want but your beliefs isn't going to change reality. Jewish people are standing against the IDF so that should tell you something.

I'm only a joke cus your mom likes to giggle.

Like I said believe what you want.

 

[rhythm808]

 
Your article clearly states A VACANT SCHOOL

"The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons."

 

[rhythm808]

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Hamas isn't shooting from homes though....

 

[createdestroy]

 
It just shows what the priority of Hamas is.  It isn't helping the Palestinian people.  That is for sure. 

The israelis priority is being shown also, it isn't helping the Palestinian people, that is for sure.

Umm... Israel's main goal shouldn't be to protect another country's people...

 

[addy85]

 
The Israeli's priority is to stop a terrorist organization from shooting thousands of rockets at them and closing down smuggling tunnels that they use to carry out attacks. 

The civilian death toll says other wise, not to mention the fact that they're taught to hate arabs at a young age. No videos or articles need to be posted since we all know that's a true statement.

I'm only a joke cus your mom likes to giggle.

Like I said believe what you want.

point proven with that post. Go on kid.

 

[addy85]

Umm... Israel's main goal shouldn't be to protect another country's people...

I'm not the one denying that, you boys are. It's obvious what their goal is, get rid of the Arabs. They kill innocent people constantly and yet it's being defended. This is mind boggling. 

 

[rhythm808]

 
The civilian death toll says other wise, not to mention the fact that they're taught to hate arabs at a young age. No videos or articles need to be posted since we all know that's a true statement.

Heresay.  You can'ts how me a video like this one.  THIS is the problem.



Civilian casualties are high because Hamas hides rockets in UN schools that are situated in between schools that contain 1500 children.

Civilian casualties are also high because Hamas shoots from homes, putting civilians in harms way. 

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[addy85]

 
Heresay.  You can'ts how me a video like this one.  THIS is the problem.



Civilian casualties are high because Hamas hides rockets in UN schools that are situated in between schools that contain 1500 children.

Civilian casualties are also high because Hamas shoots from homes, putting civilians in harms way. 

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Oh really I can't?



Still in denial?

 

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The thing is, you guys refuse to acknowledge anything that isn't Pro-Palestinian.

Let me preface this by saying, it is very sad seeing so many innocent civilians dying. I really don't think Israel is doing the best it could to eliminate these civilian causalities, and especially kids, but with that said they are in a tough place. Too many people on both sides are being killed, and I hope one day there will be a revelation and it won't have to come down to wars like this, although I don't see that ever happening. Both sides put the blame on each other and it's a revolving door.

Hamas has drawn Israel into exactly what it wants and vice versa. Israel needed a legitimate reason to go on an offensive, and Hamas certainly provided them with that by the barrage of rockets that are constantly shot, along with numerous terror tunnels located in an underground city in Gaza. How do you expect a country to be ok with an underground city of terror leading into the backyard of their schools, playgrounds, and cities when the sole purpose is to kill? At the expense of this operation, we have seen a wide number of innocent civilians on the Palestinian side killed as well, with a lot of them unwarranted. In this instance, I really do believe Hamas put its own people at harm, and really hope for them to be killed. They glorify death, and no pro Palestinian can really say otherwise. Just look at the way they show it in the media. They love to show dead people all over their networks.

How will there ever be peace when both sides may not really want it? There are 400 Israeli settlers living in the city of Hebron, which is a Palestinian city of 200,000. It's always a hotbed of action there with Israeli settlers throwing rocks at Palestinians, and vice versa. I think Israel should have gotten rid of those settlers and not divide the city in the form of an H1 and H2 sections, but it is. The Jews who live there think it's their land and they have the right to live there. I disagree.

When it comes to a cease-fire, how do you expect Israel to agree with Hamas terms? To open the boarders? How can Israel jutstify that to their people? Palestinians don't even believe in the right for Israel to exist, and Hamas only wants to bring terror among them. By opening those boarders, it is essentially inviting terrorism into Israel. How could opening up the boarders result in anything peaceful? Look at all of the terrorists attacks that took place before there was a wall barrier in place blocking the west bank from Jerusalem and the rest of Israel. That wall has been very controversial, but it has greatly diminished the amount of terror attacks coming into Israel. Unfortunately something like that was needed.Hamas wants prisoners released? These people that are in jail are terrorists and want nothing else then to kill Israelis and bring destruction to Israel. Israel had to release 1,027 of them for 1 soldier. 1,027!!!! It was wrong when the USA gave back 5 Taliban terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl. Israel put 1,027 terrorists back on the street! That is crazy. How can they justify releasing more soldiers to create a cease-fire when those prisoners who get out will just continue to build these underground terror tunnels and etc.

In this operation, it is estimated that they have destroyed over 600,000 tons of concrete tunnels. Look what happens when essential items like concrete gets into the hands of Hamas. Instead of building and innovating the city or adding shelters for its civilians, it has invested only in the destruction of Israel.

As far as Hamas using civilians as human shields, I think there is a fair amount of proof in proving that they do in some ways. When Israel tells you to evacuate your house 48 hours in advance like they did in Sha'juai but Hamas doesn't allow them to leave, what is Israel supposed to do? It's very sad that civilians have to die, but unfortunately thats what happens in war. Look throughout history. Look what's going on right now in Ukraine. There are even more civilian causalities there. And I'm not justifying it in any way, but it is a reality of war and it's a sad reality.

Does Hamas really want the people in Gaza to live better? It's shooting rockets that are landing in its own city destroying its own infrastructure and cutting out its own power. What do the people of Gaza really think they can establish with Hamas in charge shooting rockets into Israel? What have the people there done to try and overthrow the government? Does Hamas really want a prosperous Gaza? Wouldn't that effect their well being and stranglehold over the citizens?

A lot of you guys are justifying Hamas actions because they have these rockets that may not be doing much damage to Israel. What does it matter what type of damage they do? It is still putting innocent civilians in great danger and deliberately targeting them. Yes, Israel has a great defense system, but that shouldn't justify it and say well they aren't doing much, so Isrel can't destroy these terror sites.

You know what else is very unfortuante? These Pro-Palestinian rallies going on in Europe, destroying cities. Look at what's going on in France.

This post summarizes I guess for the lack of a better term the Israel/Jewish side. I don't like using sides because I think that's a major issue in all this. No progress is ever going to be made when people are so steadfast on a "side." You rarely ever hear a person acknowledge the mistakes of both groups. Instead in most cases it's describing one side with a halo and another side with devil horns. There will never be progress this way. There's no true good or bad guy, but one side is definitely getting it much worse. 

Can anyone much more educated about this topic than me answer his questions? I bolded the most commonly heard arguments, such as human shields, Hamas launching rockets, tunnels, not accepting ceasefires, etc. I know it has been stated over and over again in this thread, but I feel like one post answering all of these questions makes both arguments more organized. 

 

[rhythm808]

 
Oh really I can't?



Still in denial?

I don't like that either but if I had to compare the two I'd still say the Hamas video is FAR worse considering it promotes the indiscriminate killing of Jews where-as the video you posted is all hypothetical situations where the children would be fighting against soldiers.

I don't like either video though

 

[useref15]

Oh ya the IDF warns you before they bomb, giving you a whole minute to run away to the next building they're about to bomb. How do you explain all these innocent people that are being killed? They're just standing there waiting to get bombed? You can evade the truth all you want but your beliefs isn't going to change reality. Jewish people are standing against the IDF so that should tell you something.

In a way, yes, they do just stand there waiting.

Israel fired a warning shot at this Hamas target in Khan Yunis, a city inside Gaza. In response, these civilians ran to the roof and brought their kids.

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[addy85]

 
I don't like that either but if I had to compare the two I'd still say the Hamas video is FAR worse considering it promotes the indiscriminate killing of Jews where-as the video you posted is all hypothetical situations where the children would be fighting against soldiers.

I don't like either video though

Come on bro, you should be better than that. Wrong is wrong period. Any sort of justification is shameful. No video is better than the other, kids are being bred to hate each other. How can you be okay with it either way? 

 

[rhythm808]

 
Come on bro, you should be better than that. Wrong is wrong period. Any sort of justification is shameful. No video is better than the other, kids are being bred to hate each other. How can you be okay with it either way? 

How can you?  Why don't you bash Hamas?

You should be better than that. 

 

[addy85]

 
How can you?  Why don't you bash Hamas?

You should be better than that. 

Show me a post where I'm supporting Hamas.

 

[rhythm808]

 
Show me a post where I'm supporting Hamas.

If you don't support Hamas how can you be against Israel in the war? 

 

[addy85]

In a way, yes, they do just stand there waiting.

Israel fired a warning shot at this Hamas target in Khan Yunis, a city inside Gaza. In response, these civilians ran to the roof and brought their kids.

You can't honestly believe that do you?

 

[addy85]

 
If you don't support Hamas how can you be against Israel in the war? 

I'm against killing innocent people. How can you not understand that? Bombing 4 kids on the beach that are running away from you? Schools, hospitals. 

You can support terror if you want to, I never will. 

 

[rhythm808]

 
I'm against killing innocent people. How can you not understand that? Bombing 4 kids on the beach that are running away from you? Schools, hospitals. 

You can support terror if you want to, I never will. 

They are at war because Hamas smuggles terrorists through tunnels and fires thousands of rockets into Israel.  If it wasn't for Hamas, there wouldn't be a war.

Beyond that, the reason civilians get killed is because of Hamas.  They hide rockets in the vacinity of 1500 school children, and shoot from homes.  Both of these put civilians lives at risk.

So I ask you again.  Since the war is between Hamas and Israel...if you don't like Hamas, how can you be against Israel in the war? 

 

[addy85]

 
They are at war because Hamas smuggles terrorists through tunnels and fires thousands of rockets into Israel.  If it wasn't for Hamas, there wouldn't be a war.

Beyond that, the reason civilians get killed is because of Hamas.  They hide rockets in the vacinity of 1500 school children, and shoot from homes.  Both of these put civilians lives at risk.

So I ask you again.  Since the war is between Hamas and Israel...if you don't like Hamas, how can you be against Israel in the war? 

You believe that they are at war because of Hamas???? 

So you're telling me that they are not at war for their own agenda? 

You're an Israeli supporter and can't see anything that they do wrong. Like a typical Israeli supporter, nothing is ever their fault. It's okay, you're not the only person in denial in this thread. 

 

[rhythm808]

 
You believe that they are at war because of Hamas???? 

So you're telling me that they are not at war for their own agenda? 

You're an Israeli supporter and can't see anything that they do wrong. Like a typical Israeli supporter, nothing is ever their fault. It's okay, you're not the only person in denial in this thread. 

So who do you support in this war then?  Keeping in mind you don't like or support Hamas...

 

[addy85]

 
So who do you support in this war then?  Keeping in mind you don't like or support Hamas...

Maybe you should read the thread. 
I'm on the side of peace. Period

There is no doubt in my mind that the Israelis could give the Palestinians a better life and peace would prevail. But that's not their agenda. This isn't about which side we should support, this is about what's right and what's wrong. 

 

[useref15]

Maybe you should read the thread. 


I'm on the side of peace. Period

There is no doubt in my mind that the Israelis could give the Palestinians a better life and peace would prevail. But that's not their agenda. This isn't about which side we should support, this is about what's right and what's wrong. 

You mean like when they withdrew from Gaza and literally pulled out Israeli Settlers so the Palestinians there could be in peace and not under occupation. Look how that worked out. Hamas doesn't want peace, they want Israel to no longer exist.

 

[rhythm808]

 
Maybe you should read the thread. 

I'm on the side of peace. Period

There is no doubt in my mind that the Israelis could give the Palestinians a better life and peace would prevail. But that's not their agenda. This isn't about which side we should support, this is about what's right and what's wrong. 

What is the outcome you want then?  And I mean more specifically than just "peace"...what do you want to take place that would lead to peace?

 

[addy85]

 
What is the outcome you want then?  And I mean more specifically than just "peace"...what do you want to take place that would lead to peace?

What everyone wants, to be treated equally. Only Israel has the power to stop the madness over there. Treat the Palestinians like they treat the Jews, give them the same benefits, protect them like you do the Jewish people. Hamas would no longer exist after this because nobody would resent a better life. 

 

[rhythm808]

 
What everyone wants, to be treated equally. Only Israel has the power to stop the madness over there. Treat the Palestinians like they treat the Jews, give them the same benefits, protect them like you do the Jewish people. Hamas would no longer exist after this because nobody would resent a better life. 

They aren't their people though.  They've given them numerous chances to have their own state but they continue to turn it down.