PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE - ISRAELI-TERRORISM AWARENESS THREAD

[oneilmatt]

Youve never once acknowldged that Hamas is a terrorist group yet you continue to call Israel terrorists. You deny that terror tunnels exist or dismiss their prevalence and chalk UN reports of weapons in schools and shelters as nonsense. What is your agenda?

 

[rhythm808]

What exactly, is blantantly wrong, dismissive, and ignorant about what I said?

I state facts, but than get called names for it..

You said that the tunnels don't exist.  That isn't a fact.  It's either a lie or false information. 

 

[Animal Thug]

"OMG!! You said the terror tunnels dont exist"....*same day Israel bombs a playground with children playing it, killing all children*

After I blantantly said they were tunnels, whether or not they're formally called "terror tunnels" - I'll leave that to bias Israeli point of view. The real terror lies in where Israel chooses to fire it's ammunition, like beaches, playground, hospitals, mosques. The terrorism lies in the lack of empathy the Israel government, it's leaders and anyone chooses to support these actions that BLANTANTLY, deliberatly, and violently kills civilains.

In today's terrorist news:

http://news.sky.com/story/1309153/gaza-baby-born-after-airstrike-kills-mother


Yet....the tunnels guys, don't forget that!!!!!!1111

 

[oneilmatt]

Okay dude you are trolling. Your second to last reply proves you are at the very least leading and goading. Stop.

 

[Animal Thug]

Okay dude you are trolling. Your second to last reply proves you are at the very least leading and goading. Stop.

Give up already bro? Admit to the fact you support a terrorist nation? You've ran out of arguments?

 

[rhythm808]

"OMG!! You said the terror tunnels dont exist"....*same day Israel bombs a playground with children playing it, killing all children*

After I blantantly said they were tunnels, whether or not they're formally called "terror tunnels" - I'll leave that to bias Israeli point of view. The real terror lies in where Israel chooses to fire it's ammunition, like beaches, playground, hospitals, mosques. The terrorism lies in the lack of empathy the Israel government, it's leaders and anyone chooses to support these actions that BLANTANTLY, deliberatly, and violently kills civilains.

In today's terrorist news:

http://news.sky.com/story/1309153/gaza-baby-born-after-airstrike-kills-mother


Yet....the tunnels guys, don't forget that!!!!!!1111

It is Hamas' fault for shooting from civilian areas.  If they were shooting in areas that civilians weren't, civilians wouldn't be dying.

But let me guess, you'll deny that Hamas shoots from civilian areas even though there is video evidence of it happening on liveleak. 

 

[oneilmatt]

Not even remotely bruh.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

 

[pumpfake]

@Animal Thug

I understand how upsetting this situation is. I cannot fathom how hard it is for you, especially since you have family there. However, in my opinion, what you're doing is just as bad as what the opposite "side" does in these arguments. I see this issue as not being black and white. There is a lot of gray area here. 

One of the biggest issues I see when people discuss this, and I'm sure this also pertains to the leadership of the two groups, is that there is no attempt of understanding the other viewpoint/perspective. If you don't understand or attempt to understand all the differing views, progress won't be made. I get how unfair all this is, but don't be so quick to dismiss everything from the other and don't be so quick to disregard the wrongs of the Palestinian side. I empathize with the Palestinian people much more, but I try not to pick a side, because all in all, the big dogs of these nations won't lose, it's the every day people. 

No side is free from wrong doing, but one side is really facing the brunt of the destruction. I don't see how a settlement will be agreed upon soon, with all the egos, propaganda, and basically all the pointing of fingers in the other direction. Israel does need to chill with these attacks. They are the superpower here, even if they don't "have to" show humility here. A lot of the grievances of the Palestinian people are understandable. 

 

[useref15]

I'm interested to hear what you have to say about Hamas committing "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" on 160 children dying while building terror tunnels....

You ignored that post.

And, Hamas breaking humanitarian cease fires when Israel kept giving extensions. Shows how much they really care about their own people.

Still waiting for Animal Thug to respond to this....

 

[oneilmatt]

He doesnt comment on Hamas attrocities. Only stuff Israel doesm

 

[me love nutella]

@Animal Thug


I understand how upsetting this situation is. I cannot fathom how hard it is for you, especially since you have family there. However, in my opinion, what you're doing is just as bad as what the opposite "side" does in these arguments. I see this issue as not being black and white. There is a lot of gray area here. 

One of the biggest issues I see when people discuss this, and I'm sure this also pertains to the leadership of the two groups, is that there is no attempt of understanding the other viewpoint/perspective. If you don't understand or attempt to understand all the differing views, progress won't be made. I get how unfair all this is, but don't be so quick to dismiss everything from the other and don't be so quick to disregard the wrongs of the Palestinian side. I empathize with the Palestinian people much more, but I try not to pick a side, because all in all, the big dogs of these nations won't lose, it's the every day people. 

No side is free from wrong doing, but one side is really facing the brunt of the destruction. I don't see how a settlement will be agreed upon soon, with all the egos, propaganda, and basically all the pointing of fingers in the other direction. Israel does need to chill with these attacks. They are the superpower here, even if they don't "have to" show humility here. A lot of the grievances of the Palestinian people are understandable. 

No one here is justifying the actions of Hamas. However, you pillage, mistreat, oppress, rape, torture, and kill a population, you expect no one to start a resistance?

That's what Israel wants, no resistance. They just want Palestinians to die off so Israel can keep their Zionist vision of a greater Israel.

HAMAS TOOK OUT THE LANGUAGE OF DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. THEY AGREE TO A TWO-STATE SOLUTION WITHIN 1967 BORDERS WITH EAST JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL CITY AND A RETURN OF PALESTINIAN REFUGEES. You Israeli pro debaters, go Google it. Stop saying Hamas wants to eliminate Israel.

The propaganda spewed and brainwashing of the pro Israeli debaters is unbelievable.

The issue here is them blaming Hamas for Israel's direct and deliberate killings of civilians. Trying to wash their hands clean of Palestinian blood. Disgusting. But nothing you can do with people who are brainwashed by one of the most brutal occupiers in the world.

They might as well be supporting Assad and other despots who deliberately kill civilians. But, it is the others who are the monsters, yet Western allies and Israel bomb civilians and it is defense???? Sickening. No wonder so many around the world have so much distaste towards the American and Israeli governments.

 

[me love nutella]

rhythm808 ,

And your point is???? Like I mentioned, all allegations at first. Military cannot strike where there are civilians. They have killed civilians where no rockets or Hamas are present.

You know that Israel used these same claims during the war with Hezbollah in 2006 and the last war against Gazans???? Human rights groups went to investigate and found Israel was LYING and zero "human shields" or weapons in civilian infrastructure was found and no evidence that's what was used to use weapons. Yet you continue to show videos and Israeli propaganda which is not proven.

Israel uses the same B.S. since the last wars to justify their deliberate killings yet they were trumped and found to be even wrong. So drop it.

 

[me love nutella]

The logic on here to justify killings is truly irrational and mind boggling.

Tiananmen Square, 1988

So this man was resisting against the Chinese government and as a form of resistance, stood in front of the tank. The tanks still crushed him to death. So the Chinese used him as a human shield? He deserved to die because he was in the way and didn't want to leave? Approving Israeli atrocities against civilians and using propaganda to justify killings is no different than approving of civilians deaths by brutal regimes all over the world.

 

[flyeed]

It's funny I come back here to see people I asked difficult questions to and called out with an @ who never responded now doing the same thing and getting mad when there's no response

It's a shame that this is a game of convincing people something that's so obviously wrong is right because they're their "home team."

Lol the names that people have for things. "Terrorist tunnels." I made a whole post about those tunnels a long time ago. It's funny how people persistently bring up the same garbage points that have been refuted over and over. Dude posted a what could have been built, how about what could have been built and also not destroyed with all the bombs Israel has killed Palestinians with.

And you clowns still don't understand that being against Israel's obviously inhumane and disgusting policies that are to expand into and destroy Palestine/Paleatinian people is NOT the same as supporting Hamas.

By doing what Israel is now doing they're just creating a generation of people that will have a reason to hate them and when they resort to the petty guerrilla tactics that they're limited to then Israel will once again just be like "hey 3 people died and nobody knows who did it, and there's rockets getting fired into our impenetrable iron dome, lets slaughter and terrorize thousands of Palestinians," and it'll be cool because they're just involuntarily being used as "human shields."

 

[me love nutella]

I just watched a video on the exodus in Gaza and civilians being killed in the Shujeiya massacre. An old man who couldn't even walk trying to get away and men had to carry him. He was put finally in a truck and he was so scared and shaking. The destruction, the refugees, the dead. Sick to my stomach.

 

[rhythm808]

So Israel shouldn't attack a terrorist organization because it will destroy the buildings of another country?  Shouldn't the terrorist organization that claims to represent the best interest of the Palistinian people be the ones who are concerned with that?  If they weren't shooting rockets into Israel, the buildings wouldn't be getting destroyed.  Simple cause and effect.  

 

[me love nutella]

So Israel shouldn't attack a terrorist organization because it will destroy the buildings of another country?  Shouldn't the terrorist organization that claims to represent the best interest of the Palistinian people be the ones who are concerned with that?  If they weren't shooting rockets into Israel, the buildings wouldn't be getting destroyed.  Simple cause and effect.  

If the Israeli government wasn't occupying Palestinians, imprisoning them with no fair trials, torturing them, blockading them in open air prisons, stealing their lands, killing them, then maybe you wouldn't have Hamas launching rockets?

You steal my land, you come and pillage my village, imprison my family members with no fair trials, kill my family members yet you expect me not to fight back?

 

[rhythm808]

If the Israeli government wasn't occupying Palestinians, imprisoning them with no fair trials, torturing them, blockading them in open air prisons, stealing their lands, killing them, then maybe you wouldn't have Hamas launching rockets?

You steal my land, you come and pillage my village, imprison my family members with no fair trials, kill my family members yet you expect me not to fight back?

So you support Hamas? 

 

[mr marcus]

[/SPOILER]Random but this Jewish chick posted a photo of cristiano training and all her Jewish friends called him a terrorist because he spoke out for the Palestinian people. Why are y'all so god damn ignorant? Dude speaks out for the innocent lives lost and y'all act like he's the devil


They called him a Hamas supporter and all kind of ignorant ****...Israelis really think their **** don't stink

 

[me love nutella]

So you support Hamas? 

Nope. But i understand why they formed and why they refer to certain tactics to counteract one of the most powerful militaries in the world. Understanding does not mean i support. I have many times denounced them and their actions.

But i do know you support the brutal civilian and child killing Israeli government and army.

They are both same in one, except one is armed to the teeth, is an official military and uses unproportional and excessive force to murder civilians and is better at it.

 

[rhythm808]

Nope. But i understand why they formed and why they refer to certain tactics to counteract one of the most powerful militaries in the world. Understanding does not mean i support. I have many times denounced them and their actions.

But i do know you support the brutal civilian and child killing Israeli government and army.

They are both same in one, except one is armed to the teeth and uses unproportional and excessive force to murder civilians and is better at it.

Oh so you just blame Israel for Hamas' actions.  I guess that means you think firing rockets into a country is an appropriate response?

 

[me love nutella]

Supposedly if you say Free Palestine and you denounce Israeli aggression and killing of civilians, you must support and love Hamas. Dumbass morons.

 

[Animal Thug]

If the Israeli government wasn't occupying Palestinians, imprisoning them with no fair trials, torturing them, blockading them in open air prisons, stealing their lands, killing them, then maybe you wouldn't have Hamas launching rockets?


You steal my land, you come and pillage my village, imprison my family members with no fair trials, kill my family members yet you expect me not to fight back?

So you support Hamas? 

Seriously I recommend anyone in this thread with any common sense to block/ignore this troll.

It'll eliminate his of voice of unreasoning. Dude is as verbally talented as Foxnews newscasters.

 

[rhythm808]

Supposedly if you say Free Palestine and you denounce Israeli aggression and killing of civilians, you must support and love Hamas. Dumbass morons.

What did you mean by this then? 

"If the Israeli government wasn't occupying Palestinians, imprisoning them with no fair trials, torturing them, blockading them in open air prisons, stealing their lands, killing them, then maybe you wouldn't have Hamas launching rockets?"