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post #1441 of 1466
Its the right thing to do but I can only hope his successor blames Obama for all mideast problems like he did to Bush. Hypocritical to say the least.
post #1442 of 1466

I'll be the first to admit I'm not that educated in this subject, but I've lurked in this thread and read up a bit.

 

One thing that stood out to me was 10,000 Iraqi "soldiers" fled from 1,000 Isis soldiers, surrendered all the U.S. equipment and supplies.

 

How are we going to stop this from happening again when we leave?

post #1443 of 1466
I don't expect ISIS to be that hard to take out. And it's clear that we have to take action.

The key is how we go about doing it and how it comes across to the public, both foreign and domestic. We need to see this as an opportunity to do three things: 1) unite historic enemies for a common cause (and perhaps drive a clear wedge between radical interpretations of Islam and the rest of humanity), 2) regain some trust from the Middle East and also from Muslims, and 3) perhaps chart a new course for Iraq and Syria. Of course, we need to do all this without coming across as the aggressor or as intruders.
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I don't expect ISIS to be that hard to take out. And it's clear that we have to take action.

The key is how we go about doing it and how it comes across to the public, both foreign and domestic. We need to see this as an opportunity to do three things: 1) unite historic enemies for a common cause (and perhaps drive a clear wedge between radical interpretations of Islam and the rest of humanity), 2) regain some trust from the Middle East and also from Muslims, and 3) perhaps chart a new course for Iraq and Syria. Of course, we need to do all this without coming across as the aggressor or as intruders.

I think we need to be aggressive. This is no time to be soft. We want to show the world we are still number 1 and won't stand for this type of behavior, we have to hit them hard and kill them all. Be on the offensive and just pummel them.

We've even been working with Iran, which hasn't happened it forever, and I'm not sure how I even feel about that. I just read before they actually have about 1,000 troops in Iraq fighting ISIS right now. I really don't like giving Iran power like that, because they have their own agenda and can't be trusted...in my opinion.
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post #1445 of 1466

Seems like the military plan is mad airstrikes, then send in drones and special ops to clean up.

post #1446 of 1466
Amazing there is no story being posted about what happened today and the terrorism from the Palestinian side. Not even just today, but the numerous incidents over the past few weeks.
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post #1447 of 1466
Of course not. Liberal media barely mentions it. The supposed moderate Abbas encouraged this by telling Muslims that they need to defend the mosque built on top of a synagogue at all cost. Only Muslims allowed. Why don't we hear about that apartheid?

When Egypt and Jordan controlled the west bank and Gaza nobody gave a flying ****. Then a made up people called the palestinans appeared after Israel took back the land.

When jordan controlled jerusalam where was the Palestinian outrage?
post #1448 of 1466
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Amazing there is no story being posted about what happened today and the terrorism from the Palestinian side. Not even just today, but the numerous incidents over the past few weeks.

It's all on the news.....don't be dumb man 

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Of course not. Liberal media barely mentions it. The supposed moderate Abbas encouraged this by telling Muslims that they need to defend the mosque built on top of a synagogue at all cost. Only Muslims allowed. Why don't we hear about that apartheid?

When Egypt and Jordan controlled the west bank and Gaza nobody gave a flying ****. Then a made up people called the palestinans appeared after Israel took back the land.

When Jordan controlled jerusalam where was the Palestinian outrage?

I mean it's not as if the mosque is one of the holiest places in Islam or anything right? It's no different than Mecca with it's exclusion of outsiders.

I'm sure that the irony in calling Palestinians a made up people will surely be lost on you laugh.gif

The Egyptian occupation is vastly different since Palestinians weren't being killed,injured or arrested regularly or having their land confiscated for settlement building. Palestinian students were allowed to go to Egyptian Universities. There were no walls or fences that were built to separate them. Also many Palestinians during that time saw Nasser as the leading defender of their interests.

A major difference between both the Israeli and Jordanian occupation of the west bank is that Palestinians in the West Bank were given Jordanian citizenship and were allowed to take part in the political process with the right to vote. A big reason why there wasn't as much outrage to Jordanian rule was because Jordan as a state has been made up of mainly Arabs of Palestinian descent.

I'm not going to sit here and paint a cheerful picture of that occupation though. That would be dishonest of me since there was outrage that existed. Other religious minorities were being persecuted during that time and even to this day, Palestinians in Jordan have been disenfranchised by the Hashemite minority in power. The occupations,including the Jordanian and Egyptian ones, were a key element in the founding of the PLO.

I'm Just making the point that there are a lot of different nuances between the different occupations since the conflict in general is rather complex and can't be viewed in black and white.
post #1450 of 1466
Its so holy they pray with the *** facing it to look at mecca. Even in the AFP which is very biased they note that its the first holiest jewish site and the 3rd holiest muslim site.

Jerusalam isnt found in the quaran. I hoenstly think using the whole mohomed ascended at the furthest mosque idea as justification for all of this is ridiculous. Just a way to have a justification to fight for that land

I do enjoy reading the other info u posted. Of course its not completley black and white

And im well aware jordan is full of what people refer to as palestinans.
I also know about black september that seems to be glossed over. All this is complex but there is alot of selective outrange. And pretending that land was taken from palestinans when in reality it was captured from egypt and jordan. It wasnt captured from "palestine"
Edited by DubA169 - 11/19/14 at 11:08am
post #1451 of 1466
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Then a made up people called the palestinans appeared after Israel took back the land.

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Its so holy they pray with the *** facing it to look at mecca .


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"Palestine" came to be as a result of Romans crushing a Jewish revolt.

post #1453 of 1466
Making a thread title calling the conflict happening a palestinian genocide is far more offensive than anything i wrote. You simply cant have a real discussion on this topic and should relize thatyou cant be a moderator when it comes to this subject. Its too much a conflict of interest.
post #1454 of 1466
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It's all on the news.....don't be dumb man 


I meant on this site, not the news. I know the news has been talking about it, as they shoul. Although CNN has botched this story a couple times by posting some ridiculous headlines.
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Making a thread title calling the conflict happening a palestinian genocide is far more offensive than anything i wrote. You simply cant have a real discussion on this topic and should relize thatyou cant be a moderator when it comes to this subject. Its too much a conflict of interest.

I'm not one to abuse my capacity, that is why I report those statements where I feel is ignorant and racist instead to Methodical Management; instead of banning someone using the ability I have - to avoid that conflict of interest.

What happened over the summer, and what has taken place over the last 60 years CLEARLY has had traits of genocide, with plenty of nation leaders across the world agreeing.
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post #1456 of 1466
You just throw a tantrum if someone says something you dont agree with. If its a genocide they sure are bad at it considering that the population of what you call palestinans is far larger now than it used to be.

I couldnt care less what a bunch of politicians think. They have minorities in europe that they need to cater to or they are muslim majority. Doesnt shock me

Or they are stupid and naive enough to think that erasing israel fixes the worlds problems


Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
Edited by DubA169 - 11/19/14 at 3:20pm
post #1457 of 1466
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I'm not one to abuse my capacity, that is why I report those statements where I feel is ignorant and racist instead to Methodical Management; instead of banning someone using the ability I have - to avoid that conflict of interest.

What happened over the summer, and what has taken place over the last 60 years CLEARLY has had traits of genocide, with plenty of nation leaders across the world agreeing.

Very ironic that you are one to report somebody for saying something so mild. Have you read any of your posts with the slightest objectivity? And you have yet to mention the topic at hand, where a Palestinian goes into a place of warship and opens fire on civilians. Let me guess, you praise it like the rest of them.

And also, not a peep regarding Egypt taking more land from Gaza to form a larger buffer zone to further themselves away from terrorist and closing the Rafah border.
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post #1458 of 1466
True. It's EXTREMLY rare to hear about egypts blockade and current roll in the conflict. Or supposed genocide.

Israel just sold over 500 million dollars of weaponry to India. Beat out the american bid. I assume they saw obama trying to halt missle delivery during the last war and can't trust America in case India and Pakistan go to war. The BDS movement doesn't seem to be doing well. Israel and india as allies make perfect sense.

BDS was able to "win" against SodaStream resulting in at least 500 palestinans losing their jobs. Kudos.
Edited by DubA169 - 11/19/14 at 4:56pm
post #1459 of 1466

interesting piece...placed in this thread because it was the latest one made concerning Palestinian and Israeli relations

 

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post #1461 of 1466
its better this thread be left in the graveyard...too many zionist supporters spewing stuff they have no idea about...i am sorry but it is very hard and rare for a jewish person who is not versed in this topic to have ANY sort of objectivity what so ever...so its better not to debate with the ignorant...
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Bumped for relevance.






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Just finished watching the above video. "I got to the US the same way as Blacks did.". roll.gif What?!

whats going on here though why was that woman and that young boy shot ..............this is not cool please aware me someone 

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its better this thread be left in the graveyard...too many zionist supporters spewing stuff they have no idea about...i am sorry but it is very hard and rare for a jewish person who is not versed in this topic to have ANY sort of objectivity what so ever...so its better not to debate with the ignorant...


Right here.

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whats going on here though why was that woman and that young boy shot ..............this is not cool please aware me someone 


First vid: Woman shot allegedly stabbed an Israeli soldier.


Second vid: Still not clear.
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Right here.
First vid: Woman shot allegedly stabbed an Israeli soldier.


Second vid: Still not clear.

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i am sorry but it is very hard and rare for a jewish person who is not versed in this topic to have ANY sort of objectivity what so ever

No reason to be sorry for sharing your observations, but in my opinion you could plug in almost any group of people and a controversial issue that is specific to that group and that statement would still be true.
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post #1466 of 1466
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its better this thread be left in the graveyard...too many zionist supporters spewing stuff they have no idea about...i am sorry but it is very hard and rare for a jewish person who is not versed in this topic to have ANY sort of objectivity what so ever...so its better not to debate with the ignorant...

Basically

Plus they always report when you speak the truth anyway. God bless the Palestinians
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