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[laker4lifeman]

Woodson easily for me I became a fan because I saw him on the disney show The Jersey As soon as the show ended I started using the Raiders in nfl blitz

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

 

[mr jordan04]

Jamarcus wasn't a head case. He was just slow n uneducated. Matta fact listen to any of those lsu boys speak..Russell or um...big Safty used to play for skins can't remeber his name... bowe, honey badger they all speak HORRible. Tommy Kelly was the Russell of the D. He took al $ and did ****.

A LOT of athletes sound like that
You ever heard marshawn lynch talk?

 

[ishnaga]

Yea I agree but some of them man..my god!!!!
Makes me wonder...

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

Good article today


Matt McGloin again faces skeptics but what else is new?
By David Jones

Oakland Raiders quarterback Matt McGloin (14) audibles against the Minnesota Vikings in the second half during a exhibition NFL football game at TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Friday, Aug. 8, 2014. (AP Photo/Jim Mone) (AP/Jim Mone)
By David Jones | djones@pennlive.com
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on August 19, 2014 at 7:21 AM
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I got an interesting email from a reader today who made what even he admitted was an imperfect comparison. He likened Matt McGloin to Sisyphus the king of Greek mythology who, as punishment for his crimes of manipulation, was compelled to perpetually roll a boulder uphill only to see it tumble back down and have to start all over again.

I don't know if the former Penn State and current Oakland Raiders quarterback has done anything to warrant his lot in life other than to choose a career path for which he is constantly judged unfit. At every station in his football career, McGloin must prove his worth to doubters. And every time, so far, he has done so – on the high school, college and now pro levels.

It's not that McGloin can't do the job. It's simply that it appears unlikely that he can to coaches and general managers, not to mention fans and writers. No one ever starts out believing in him.

You know his Penn State history. And you know that, against all odds, the free agent unworthy of an NFL Draft choice in the eyes of front office types, not only made the Raiders' roster last year but also ended up starting six games and performing rather well.

Here we are again. After two weeks of preseason games, McGloin seems to have outperformed the two QBs above him on the depth chart – Houston Texans castoff Matt Schaub and rookie Derek Carr. But he remains No. 3 on the Raiders' depth chart even after stepping in last year and proving himself, if not a potential superstar, then at least maybe a worthy starter.

Why? Because everyone in every war room and every front office of all 32 NFL franchises has been taught to look for the guy who can take you to the Super Bowl. By and large, that means three qualities: smart, big, strong-armed. You don't need all three to entice the people who make the decisions. But you at least need two.

McGloin only has one. That makes him infinitely expendable. Just based on what he did last year, he'll have a job in the league as long as he can stay healthy – as a backup. But as a potential starter? He may always be a contingency plan.

The West Scranton native has built a cult following in the Bay Area and they've begun calling him The Red Rifle. That's not a function of his arm strength which remains ordinary. They just like him because he looks like what he is – a bantam fighter.


McGloin warms up on Aug. 8 in Minneapolis.
Jim Mone

But GMs and player personnel directors are not about nicknames. They are about "measurables," the quantifiable specs that indicate you are the guy who can take their franchise to the Super Bowl and win it.

What's true about Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks that's not about McGloin? They are big. The 30 QBs who've won the biggest game in football average just a tenth of an inch under 6-3. McGloin is just under 6 feet.

You may say: Yeah, but look at the last one. After 47 previous Super Bowls, Russell Wilson of the Seahawks was the first quarterback to win one who stood below 6 feet (5-11).

Ah, but Wilson is quick. To Pete Carroll, that elusiveness made Wilson viable at such a height. McGloin? Not so elusive. In fact, he could be categorized as slow.

Further, Wilson's stature and that of 2009 winner Drew Bress simply fly in the face of history. Other than those two, you have to rewind all the way back to 1982 and Joe Theismann (6-0) to find a QB who won the Super Bowl standing under 6-2. In fact, other than Brees, Wilson and Aaron Rodgers (6-2), you must retreat to 1999 simply to find one under 6-4.

"Football people" are used to that norm. Their jobs depend on finding that guy, especially if no one else recognizes him. Even if they don't find him, they need to present candidates who look the part. Fans might say they root for the underdog and guys like McGloin are always lovable. But you can't easily sell a man who looks like him as "our future franchise quarterback," the guy who's taking us to the Promised Land.

So, the fact is, McGloin will have to hope to impersonate Brees and Wilson and Johnny Manziel and replicate their mobility the best he can by using pocket savvy and awareness. Maybe then, he can find a situation where a club has no one else, maybe the prototype starter has been injured, hopefully the offensive line is pretty good, the skill-position guys are there and the coach grows to believe in him.

Hey, whataya know? That sounds like the Houston Texans and his old mentor Bill O'Brien. Projected starter Ryan Fitzpatrick seemed to right himself Friday night in the Texans' 32-7 win over the Falcons. But after that, it's rookie Tom Savage and former Houston Cougar speed-spread operator Case Keenum, neither an O'Brien-mold quarterback. If neither distinguishes himself on Saturday night in Denver, who knows? McGloin could find himself packing for a flight to the Gulf.

That's probably what his career will amount to as long as it lasts in the NFL – finding a landing spot every summer and a new set of skeptics to convince that his "measureables" don't include his brain and heart.

DAVID JONES

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[Johnny_Cakes]

Seems likely that the staff won't be back next year so hopefully the QB they deem worthy of starting this year will be able to adjust.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

I can see the whole staff getting fired but I still think Reggie is safe

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

I think Reggie is safe too...i dont mind him staying but i hate that we wasted 3 years on Dennis Allen.

 

[laker4lifeman]

Draft picks are going to determine Reggie

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

We all know if AL was alive we would be on a new HC every year still.

 

[mr jordan04]

Anybody know of any raiders booster clubs? Might fly out from so cal to watch the the game in New England

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Anybody know of any raiders booster clubs? Might fly out from so cal to watch the the game in New England

http://www.raiders.com/fans/booster-clubs.html

Official booster clubs.

 

[mr jordan04]

Thanks. Emailed a couple, see if they can get me some decent tickets so I can buy this damn plane ticket

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

I want to go to a Raiders Road Game ASAP. In SD or Denver would be cool

 

[mr jordan04]

San Diego is almost like a home game, so many raider fans. A lot of charger fans sell their seats because they don't wanna deal with the raider fans

 

[HNL HI]

Nnamdi is my dude, the slander when he went to the eagles and **** the bed had me heated.

Got lots of love for Seabass, most consistent Raider. Even thru all the loses you always get excited when he walks on for a long one. Hope he gets a shot at the record.

Woodson definitely my favorite tho, ill probably cry real tears when he breaks the record. 

 

 

[ishnaga]

If he does break it I can't think of anyone with it in their sights...well now that ed reed is pretty much done.
i hope breaks it against somebody hated like Diego n cooks when he scores like tyvon did **** was

 

[ciscokid]

Tim Brown still my favorite and probably always will be

Mr. Raider is my favorite too. Special mentions would be Crockett and Napoleon

 

[ice city fc]

Anybody catch the CSN State of the Raiders tonight? I thought Dennis Allen's comments about McGloin in his interview were kinda foul.


Yall had me thinking about my favorite Raider the last day or so. After #81 I was thinking Charles but honestly it's probably Janikowski.

 

[raider5]

Before the Raiders cut McClain didn't DA and him get into? With McClain talkin about DA's wife or something? 

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Before the Raiders cut McClain didn't DA and him get into? With McClain talkin about DA's wife or something? 

I didn't know that last bit

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Tonight's game is on cbs

 

[The_Isomotion31]

Going to have to watch part of it on my phone tonight in the office. Man....show me something more than 5 yard passing routes schuab. Show me the run game to open up the play action for Schaub like you guys talked about DA and McKenzie.

 

[laker4lifeman]

Trent Edwards going to show us he's the man.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

gives me a reason not to watch the 4th Q