RAIDER NATION Season THREAD:

[ishnaga]

i just dont like him...I DONT LIKE HIM!!!!!!!!

Dont like how he feels running our guys. 

Dont like his sucka running scarred mentality 

he aint gonna make it 

Why couldnt pryor throw dang..

 

[ice city fc]

We need to ship Schaub out to St. Louis they'r desperate maybe we can recoup that late round pick.

 

[willie mcfly22]

I read St. Louis talkin to Mark Sanchez..

I actually wouldn't b surprised if Schaub plays on Thursday to get that final look to really decide how short a leash he'll b on...

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Jacoby Ford and Tommy Kelly got cut by their teams

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

You're for real like the only person I've seen seriously criticizing McKenzie from day one online or in real life. 

Yes sir. Ive played, watched, and coached football a long time and understand the game very well. I also have degrees in organziational management and understand the right ways to restructure, reduce costs, and implement a better culture....McKenize didnt do any of it right. He is a medicore GM at best with a lot of pride and hubris that will ultimately hurt the team. People just liked him cuz he was not Al Davis

McKenzie fired everyone and came in with this bravado and acting like he built the packers from scratch. The packers live and die with McCarthy and Rodgers not McKenzie. I knew he was a charlatan. The firing of Wauffle (d line coach) and hue Jackson showed how incompetent he was plus i critisized his first hiring of Dennis Allen...what a joke. How can you fire key personnel after back to back 8-8 seasons.

What pisses me off the most is thinking about that game where Reece and McFadden went off on the seahawks and we whooped them like 27-6. Hue had Pete Carroll's defense and offense looking helpless and yet here we are 3-4 years later. We suck and they are superbowl champs. Their management/coaching coached them up while ours...you know

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

Are we experiencing deja vu from last year or what? Lol.
Fate seems to point in the direction of Matt McGloin.
Long live Hue and Cable.

Quoted for truth.

Anyway as Raider brethren I want to gift you with some fantasy football advice.

Pickup
Dalton (2nd or 3rd qb)
Gio Bernard (1st or 2nd rb)
& Aj Green. (1st or 2nd wr)

Thank me and Hue later.

Jason campbell, jacoby ford, dmoore and mcfadden know what im talking about.

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

If Allen waits till week 4 to put McGloin in then he is dumber than I thought.

McGloin and Carr should be evaulated for the starting job this Thursday vs Seattle. Winner take all. My bet is on McGloin.

 

[laker4lifeman]

All of those guys wish it was still 2011.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Hue deserved to be fired. You're going to tell me that Carson Palmer was going to justify giving up a first and second round pick for him?

 

[ishnaga]

Hue did do us dirty tho...or atleast had a hand in it. We coulda sucked it up n had luck
Sigh

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Why does he continue to put hue on a pedestal ?

Tom Cable won just as many games as he did and he didn't trade 2 draft picks away from a team with up coming cap issues.

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

Why does he continue to put hue on a pedestal ?

Tom Cable won just as many games as he did and he didn't trade 2 draft picks away from a team with up coming cap issues.

Maybe cuz Hue was running Cable's offense and Marshall (good coach) was running the defense.

Then Hue got stuck with Breshnahan on defense instead of the better coach Marshall.

Without the ball and chain of breshnahan and chris "cant cover" johnson we would have been in the playoffs.

Anyway my buddy who is an assistan at U of Chicago sent me this. Al Davis knew Hue had a special football mind and many of my friends that follow football Xs and Os agree not just me.


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Aug 6. 2014
Hue Jackson Putting Fingerprints on Bengals Offense

Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports
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It's no secret that the days of Jay Gruden's circle style offense is coming to a close in Cincinnati. Gruden, like others, most notably Chip Kelley, used a small, shifty guy in the slot. But Hue's offense uses a bigger, stronger slot receiver and his style is having an impact across the entire offensive side of the ball.

The role of the slot receiver is to to find a hole between the layers of the defense or in the flat vacated by the corners. Many teams like a smaller, dynamic guy who can weave himself into an open spot. But Hue seems to likes the bigger, strong guy who can muscle his way to a spot, and to become a play-maker to fighting for yards after the catch.

This makes sense, because defenses are using specialized DBs to cover this guy and disrupt their timing by making it difficult for the smaller slot receivers to separate at the line of scrimmage. Exit Hawkins, enter Sanu and Eifert. Jackson is making many changes, such as picking up the pace of the offense, and spreading the defense to open up shorter plays for his backs, TEs, and slot receivers.

However, all this is predicated on changing the nature of one role player on his offense, the slot receiver. More and more teams are running with an overloaded offensive line, using either a three Tackle or a two TE set. In Hue's offense he's going to use the two TE set, and his two TEs are morphing into two different types of TEs with very different skill sets.

The first is the traditional TE. He's a blocking TE who separates from the line at the right time to catch the ball and use his athleticism to make a play.

The other TE is morphing into the H-Back role, a player who can line up at the line of scrimmage as a TE, wide as a slot receiver, or in the backfield as a fullback to create mismatches. All three positions, if you prefer a strong slot receiver, are all tall, strong guys who can block and catch the ball.

And instead of having three players who are rarely on the field at the same time taking up three spots on your roster, they are merging into one position. Joe Gibbs may have created this position, but it seems Hue Jackson is a major proponent and is seeking to institutionalize this position taking it from a role player, to a full time gig.

While Sanu is obviously a wide receiver and not an H-Back, I include Sanu in this role, not because we'll ever see him lined up at TE, or blocking as a FB. But I think you'll see Eifert and Sanu backing each other more than you'll see Eifter backing up Gresham.

Don't be surprised to see Eifert as the starting H-Back, and Sanu as a change of pace H-Back lining up out of the backfield. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Eifert and Sanu with carries out of the backfield. The depth chart is very interesting. On one side you have Gresham and Smith. The other has Eifert, Charles, and Hewitt as TE/H-Back.

Perhaps this is what Hue Jackson is gravitating toward because of the the personnel he has, i.e. Eifert and Sanu. Perhaps I'm wrong and this post is complete hogwash, or this is the next step in the evolution in NFL offenses. Regardless, Hue Jackson excites me with everything he's doing to recreate this offense.


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Hue Jackson taking torch for Cincinnati Bengals
By Albert Breer
Aug.1 2014
..."During this particular training camp in Cincinnati, the focus has been on raising that bar -- and it starts with Jackson, a straightforward leader who took the Oakland Raiders' offensive ranking from 31st to 10th and doubled the team's point total upon getting the coordinator job there in 2010.

Jackson says the goal for his group is simple: "To be the best there is. I mean, we're not trying to be a number, we just want to be the winningest offense in football. And whatever it takes to be that, that's what we're gonna do."

While Guenther used the Seahawks' defense as a model, Jackson holds up Michael Jordan to his players as an example of a competitor who had to struggle through a process -- needing to find ways to get past the Celtics and Pistons and Lakers -- before winning a championship. And the roadmap Jackson's giving them to get there is grounded in fast-moving, honest, teeth-rattling practices that he hopes will produce more physical offense. It doesn't mean not throwing the ball. Rather, it's doing everything with an edge.

"Oh yeah, there's no question about that," Jackson said. "I don't think football should be played any other way. You can't play this game with a sweetheart approach. I just don't believe in that. I think our players understand that. It's been rough. It's been physical out here. But it's gotta be that way every day, because if it's not gonna be, then we're not gonna get to where we need to go. We need to be that kind of football team."

Still my favorite Raider coach since Gruden

I bet Allen is cooking up some genius ideas for us too.
LOL followed by smh

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

You're for real like the only person I've seen seriously criticizing McKenzie from day one online or in real life. 

Im not the only genius who sees it. Allen and McKenzie suck.

Saw this on facebook today
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[ice city fc]

I was referring to what you felt was a lack of consistency in supporting Carr while simultaneously being against McKenzie.

Thanks for the resume though, you should shop it around to league front offices. 

 

btw Hue is one of the few things I've seemed to agree with you on over the years. 

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

I was referring to what you felt was a lack of consistency in supporting Carr while simultaneously being against McKenzie.

Thanks for the resume though, you should shop it around to league front offices.   

btw Hue is one of the few things I've seemed to agree with you on over the years. 

I never said Carr lacked support. He has support...too much if you ask me.
Carr is gonna be an average QB at best.
McKenzie is not going to be very good either until he finds a good coach.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

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52 is a bad *** number on a defensive player

 

[The_Isomotion31]

I never said Carr lacked support. He has support...too much if you ask me.
Carr is gonna be an average QB at best.
McKenzie is not going to be very good either until he finds a good coach.

I dunno. Dude has a Cutler feel to him. Man I wish Jay Cutler was a raider. flame suit on. But gun slinging (maybe a bit of an a-hole) QBs are the type I like leading.

 

[ice city fc]

^^The universal #23 for linebackers at every level.

ajiiiplatinum again bro I know you feel Carr has too much support, I only addressed what you seemed to see as a contradiction, other people being both a Carr fan and a McKenzie hater, when you're one of the few people I know who actively dislikes McKenzie.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Carr has looked solid so far. I don't see any reason yet to see why he can't be a difference maker at QB, especially for us.

 

[laker4lifeman]

Carr most likely will start against Seattle now talk about a test.

 

[The_Isomotion31]

^^Baptism by fire? lol.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

If he's going to start against Seattle I'm going to worry less about completions and more about his footwork and pocket mobility. I don't trust our receivers to catch against Seattle's DBs.

 

[ihatemyshoes]

Yes sir. Ive played, watched, and coached football a long time and understand the game very well. I also have degrees in organziational management and understand the right ways to restructure, reduce costs, and implement a better culture....McKenize didnt do any of it right. He is a medicore GM at best with a lot of pride and hubris that will ultimately hurt the team. People just liked him cuz he was not Al Davis

McKenzie fired everyone and came in with this bravado and acting like he built the packers from scratch. The packers live and die with McCarthy and Rodgers not McKenzie. I knew he was a charlatan. The firing of Wauffle (d line coach) and hue Jackson showed how incompetent he was plus i critisized his first hiring of Dennis Allen...what a joke. How can you fire key personnel after back to back 8-8 seasons.

What pisses me off the most is thinking about that game where Reece and McFadden went off on the seahawks and we whooped them like 27-6. Hue had Pete Carroll's defense and offense looking helpless and yet here we are 3-4 years later. We suck and they are superbowl champs. Their management/coaching coached them up while ours...you know

wait what?!?! The player he cut or let go, to sign with other teams are now looking for jobs ...and also McKenize clean up our salary cap situation; we are set to have the highest spending cap again for next year ....he already put  more talent  then we had the last few year ...we just gotta wait and see if DA can put all them together....

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

I dunno. Dude has a Cutler feel to him. Man I wish Jay Cutler was a raider. flame suit on. But gun slinging (maybe a bit of an a-hole) QBs are the type I like leading.

I watched Fresno St games cuz they are in the mountain west and he did not convince me or make me a believer. Kaepernick who i watched in the WAC looked more prepared. I hope Carr proves me wrong and can take the next step.

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

wait what?!?! The player he cut or let go, to sign with other teams are now looking for jobs ...and also McKenize clean up our salary cap situation; we are set to have the highest spending cap again for next year ....he already put  more talent  then we had the last few year ...we just gotta wait and see if DA can put all them together....

Dude all he did was cut players left and right. Anyone can fire people and reduce costs like that. Its how moral and production is affected while your doing it that matters.
8-24 in 2 seasons of cuts = Failure