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Staten Island man dies after NYPD cop puts him in chokehold
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Not to divert this thread away from the original topic at hand, but I do feel compelled to say this. As a black man, it is disheartening to hear some folks in here paint police with negative generalizations and such a bad broad brush as if all cops are bad. I say that because many non-blacks paint all black people with the same bad broad brush as well.
It's not right when it's done to us, so to be fair on the matter I say it's unfair to do the same to police officers as well. Are there bad cops, of course, there are bad people in every sector or group of individuals. That doesn't mean we as people walk around thinking negatively about a certain group just because of one bad apple, or even a few bad apples. Just felt the need to say that.
It's not right when it's done to us, so to be fair on the matter I say it's unfair to do the same to police officers as well. Are there bad cops, of course, there are bad people in every sector or group of individuals. That doesn't mean we as people walk around thinking negatively about a certain group just because of one bad apple, or even a few bad apples. Just felt the need to say that.
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you're right
but a bad cop or bad doctor can be so much worse than a bad grocery store clerk or something
just thought to add that
but a bad cop or bad doctor can be so much worse than a bad grocery store clerk or something
just thought to add that
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your right i forgot all people react the same to certain situations
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I don't think choking a person out is within their guide lines
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nicely said.
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I don't think choking a person out is within their guide lines
Certainly not
http://www.pbs.org/pov/everymothersson/special_nypd_force.php
From the New York Police Department Patrol Guide, 2004 Edition
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Even tho they were too aggressive why resist man? It never leads anywhere good
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agreed...
but this. King you are right on the money with your point b. but an armed officer looking to **** your day up with the system on his side, is a vastly greater threat than ur typical bigot. especially as a black man.
i don't give any cop the benefit of the doubt for safety's sake. mine (black too). until they display qualities proving otherwise. but for safety's sake, i will adhere to their instructions so long as its within their legal right to do so.
of course, if a crooked op wants to mess with you. he will. period. it doesn't matter what you say or do. if a cop wants to harass, arrest, or just beat you. he will. that is the reality we live in today. and im fully aware these cops are the same people we as a society depend on to keep us safe. word to the movie Crash.
but i feel you. a lot of cops are honest, and just doing their job. sometimes the problem may not be the officer but the laws they enforce. like i said tho, when it comes to police, a few bad apples is a few too many, simply because the consequences can be fatal. and we've seen that way too many times.
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Sorry bud but its common sense and shouldn't require hindsight.
He was perfectly sober it appeared and obviously he knew he had a medical condition and wasn't in the best of health... If he really did nothing wrong, then he'd take a ride to the station and be released without suffering a major health complication. But no, he decided to fight back when a half dozen cops were standing right there.
I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong here, as I'm sure most of you are assuming.
My entire point is that if a cop is about to put you in cuffs, just let them. Otherwise you're creating a whole new set of problems for yourself.
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Never thought Id see a post like this from Champ.
Fully agree.
Things are now at the point where these cops need some severe punishment when they do **** like this.
These slaps on the wrists are not enough of a deterrent.
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No doubt, I definitely agree with alot of things that you said. Especially the part about facing an armed officer that has the justice system on their side that wants to purposely mess up your day.
That being said, personally when I see or hear about situations like this one the OP provided, I think of ways I can learn from this situation in case for some reason I ever face something similar. For me, this thread and even the video just reinforced the point to me to never resist arrest. As others have said, NO good can every come out of it, none. This of course doesn't absolve those police officers in the video from any wrongdoing or potential wrongdoing on their end.
Thank you.
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Honestly all Ds/Narcs on SI are **** heads. I've had generally good encounters with blue and whites tho.
Apparently he had a prior for selling loosies but people recording it said he had just broke up a fight. They were probably looking to arrest someone since they were late and missed the fight.
They could be stopping the open air heroin markets not too far from there
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RIP to dude
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not in here for a race thread,because i actually live on staten island and knew this dude,its ****** up man.a lot of things could of been done differently on both ends.i love my borough sometimes but straight up cops out here are ***** unless u live on si then u dont know.its also the most prejudice unfortunately.(just read of of the comments on si live smh).
also sidenote-this summer been crazy out here this is the 5th person i know that has been killed out here in the last 3 months alone.ive never seen so much death of close people.**** gotta stop.black on black crime and police brutality.
also sidenote-this summer been crazy out here this is the 5th person i know that has been killed out here in the last 3 months alone.ive never seen so much death of close people.**** gotta stop.black on black crime and police brutality.
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^ This. Not excusing the cops' actions. but had the guy not resisted, he'd still be alive today.
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am i missing something? i don't see him resisting after the takedown. once he started stumbling there were 5 uniforms at his back. seems like there was 0 effort by police to deescalate the situation.
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**** all cops. Period. Good ones too. All of em can eat a ****
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^ clearly a law-abiding citizen
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Worst thing I've ever done is smoke pot and use torrents. Miss me with that.
I'm tired of seeing this ******** every ******* week. Then the cops act like they did nothing wrong. **** them.
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**** them too
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"Captain hindsight"
Sorry bud but its common sense and shouldn't require hindsight.
He was perfectly sober it appeared and obviously he knew he had a medical condition and wasn't in the best of health... If he really did nothing wrong, then he'd take a ride to the station and be released without suffering a major health complication. But no, he decided to fight back when a half dozen cops were standing right there.
I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong here, as I'm sure most of you are assuming.
My entire point is that if a cop is about to put you in cuffs, just let them. Otherwise you're creating a whole new set of problems for yourself.
Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should they have the ability to restrain you to a point that would effect your health. That is the point, also why would i be willing to be criminalized embarrased and treated like a criminal if i know i did nothing wrong in the first place. Why is there five cops jumping on a man in the first place.
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This man, sad. I'm not even addressing once they started to restrain him, just the conversation. You make these guys feel any bit of power being pulled away and they feel they have to prove something.
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