QB THREAD - 2x quarterbacky award winner: Lamar Jackson

[dmxfury]

F I should've just ignored

 

[nepats617]

Wilson is a flat out beast, period. I honestly believe he's better than Andrew Luck.


If I'm starting a franchise and I have a choice between the two I'm taking Wilson without the slightest hesitation.

man, what? no way. wilson is the goods no doubt but luck is just filthy. he could easily very well be the greatest QB of all time if not, at worst, one of the greatest once he hangs up

barring injuries of course. if there's such a thing closest to sure thing. it's luck and his to be greatness.

 

[dmxfury]

It's the 'without the slightest hesitation' that really throws me

 

[100027]

I get the perception that Russell Wilson is carried by the running game

But I don't think that's entirely true

The Seahawks lead the league in rushing by 408 yards but you have to remember Russ counts 800 yards of that

You take away those rushing yards and the Seahawks, they drop down to 12 around the rushing attacks of teams like the Packers, Chiefs, Saints, Dolphins and Eagles.

Of course it's not true, the stats don't bear it out at all...  It's completely perception based on what some folks want to believe.  

Marshawn Lynch is an awesome player and essential to the team, but his playoff career YPG is only 82.25.  To say Wilson hasn't helped to carry that offense is way off-base.  Both sides of the offense have bailed out the other when necessary.

And yeah Wilson's rushing was unreal this season.

 

[nepats617]

It's the 'without the slightest hesitation' that really throws me

i know, right. but hey to each their own

 

 

[mister friendly]

Marshawn was always been a good back but he went to another level when Russ came there

 

[do work son]

they are both evry good quarterbacks and both are instrumental in their respective team's success. that's all that matters

 

[HEATHEN]

Whats wrong with your neck?

Wilson has proven to be more efficient than Luck while having far inferior aerial weaponry.

The way Wilson sees the field and his uncanny awareness of incoming defenders coupled with his elusiveness makes him the deadliest QB in the league sans Rodgers.

The guy has been playing behind the WORST pass blocking offensive line in the league since he came into the league. He extends and makes plays pretty much no other QB in the league can make. This isn't hyperbole, these are facts.

And the kid is only getting better every day. Just wait until they get him a true big play receiver (one who isn't chronically injured or is a bipolar malcontent like Harvin).

The kid is a transcendent talent, one that has really never been seen in the league. Dude does some truly unbelievable things on the football field.

 

[HEATHEN]

man, what? no way. wilson is the goods no doubt but luck is just filthy. he could easily very well be the greatest QB of all time if not, at worst, one of the greatest once he hangs up barring injuries of course. if there's such a thing closest to sure thing. it's luck and his to be greatness.

See above post. Also real weak sauce attempt at supporting your argument.

 

[100027]

they are both evry good quarterbacks and both are instrumental in their respective team's success. that's all that matters

More or less.  

Let the comparisons come when there's a legacy to speak of.

 

[nepats617]

no.  the proof is in the pudding but thats why i said to each their own. we'll agree to disagree, simply put.

 

[dmxfury]

Whats wrong with your neck?

Wilson has proven to be more efficient than Luck while having far inferior aerial weaponry.

The way Luck sees the field and his uncanny awareness of incoming defenders coupled with his elusiveness makes him the deadliest QB in the league sans Rodgers.

The guy has been playing behind the WORST pass blocking offensive line in the league since he came into the league. He extends and makes plays pretty much no other QB in the league can make. This isn't hyperbole, these are facts.

And the kid is only getting better every day. Just wait until they get him a true big play receiver (one who isn't chronically injured or is a bipolar malcontent like Harvin).

The kid is a transcendent talent, one that has really never been seen in the league. Dude does some truly unbelievable things on the football field.

Might as well get the HOF bust ready

 

[fraij da 5 11]

Russell "the kid" Wilson

 

[mister friendly]

Hey if Griese is in the HOF

 

[HEATHEN]

Marshawn was always been a good back but he went to another level when Russ came there

Yep opposing defenses don't know what to do with themselves they're so on edge and discouraged when Lynch gashes their whole defense and then Wilson keeps making them miss.

They'll be literally grabbing air, inches away from sacking him and nothing.

When you have a QB like that it opens up the rest of your offense, including your ground game, to produce.

 

[HEATHEN]

Might as well get the HOF bust ready

Shieeeet. Might as well.

Have Skittles give Lynch a million dollars while we're on it.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Russell Wilson is so good that he doesn't even have to throw for touchdowns for his team to win: as seen in three games this season. He didn't even have to account for *any* offensive touchdowns in two of those games!

When you're so amazing that you manage to score points without scoring points, you are the GOAT.

Russell HOF Wilson 2015 #CantonOrBust

 

[licensed to ball]

4.75/10

Mostly because of the Batman/Russ pic

 

[Chester McFloppy]

I can only hope that future QBs in the league can get their defenses playing to the level that Russ gets his. The amount of work that he puts in with Kam Chancellor to allow him to jump piles and pick off passes is enormous. The ability to shut down one side of the field, as evidenced by Richard Sherman, is incredible. The fact that he made Earl Thomas a household name is one of the greatest stories in sports. Don't even get me started on that defensive line... his work is monumental.

Marshawn Lynch should thank the heavens every day that he gets to share the same backfield as Wilson. Most RBs only dream of such a thing -- Beast Mode gets to live it every day.

Russell Wilson is the greatest QB... no... the greatest football player to ever live. Buckle up and enjoy the ride!

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

[100027]

Russell Wilson is so good that he doesn't even have to throw for touchdowns for his team to win: as seen in three games this season. He didn't even have to account for *any* offensive touchdowns in two of those games!

When you're so amazing that you manage to score points without scoring points, you are the GOAT.

Russell HOF Wilson 2015 #CantonOrBust

I guess he didn't technically have to throw the second most touchdowns all-time over his first two seasons, he just did that anyway.

I can only hope that future QBs in the league can get their defenses playing to the level that Russ gets his. The amount of work that he puts in with Kam Chancellor to allow him to jump piles and pick off passes is enormous. The ability to shut down one side of the field, as evidenced by Richard Sherman, is incredible. The fact that he made Earl Thomas a household name is one of the greatest stories in sports. Don't even get me started on that defensive line... his work is monumental.
 

What those things have to do with Wilson's statistics, success, and skill level I must be missing.

Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, and Richard Sherman definitely gave him the #1 all time playoff passer rating.

Just like the Ravens did with Trent and the Bucs did with ol' Brad Johnson.

 

[skurrtskurrt29]

I don't know what's worse.

Seeing one side exaggerate how great Wilson is, or seeing the other side flat out act like he does nothing of substance on the football field.

Every time I come into S&T it's the same ol ****

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, and Richard Sherman definitely gave him the #1 all time playoff passer rating.

No, a playoff game against a 7-8-1 team did that. But that's neither here nor there... don't you DARE try to downplay the great Russell Wilson's legacy.

There are some players that are much more than simple athletes: they transcend the sporting world. Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps, that ginger that snowboards, Muhammad Ali, Tiger Woods, Joe Montana, Pele, Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens, and now Russell Wilson.

Forget comparing him to Andrew Luck -- where does Russell Wilson sit on the Athlete Mount Rushmore?

I currently have him between Wilt Chamberlain and Usain Bolt. Another Super Bowl ring and he's jumping Mike Tyson and Jack Nicklaus.

 

[100027]

No, a playoff game against a 7-8-1 did that. But that's neither here nor there... don't you DARE try to downplay the great Russell Wilson's legacy.

There are some players that are much more than simple athletes: they transcend the sporting world. Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps, that ginger that snowboards, Muhammad Ali, Tiger Woods, Joe Montana, Pele, Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens, and now Russell Wilson.

Forget comparing him to Andrew Luck -- where does Russell Wilson sit on the Athlete Mount Rushmore?

I currently have him between Wilt Chamberlain and Usain Bolt. Another Super Bowl ring and he's jumping Mike Tyson and Jack Nicklaus.

You're just going crazy creating straw men.

I never said any of that about Russell.  I just think he's a good quarterback.

You actually believe that about Luck.

 

[pacificnorsewst]

Given the choice: Luck. If I was told my quarterback would be Russell or Luck decided by a flip of the coin, I wouldn't really worry either way.

I can only hope that future QBs in the league can get their defenses playing to the level that Russ gets his.

Our boy Teddy is on his way to doing just that.