2019-20 New York Jets season thread. 1-4 (10/21 vs NE MNF)

Might be a long shot but I hope Winston can also play in the MLB, something like a relief pitcher. He said he would love to play for the Yankees so maybe having him in NY wouldn't be a bad idea...
 
I don't care for these big name college QB's. I want some kid who is NFL ready and played in an NFL type system. That Mariota kid doesn't look like he's NFL ready.
 
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but who exactly? only guy is Brian Hoyer and I wouldn't pay top dollar for him.
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Sam Bradford might be out there.  There's a couple of dudes including Hoyer but I don't have the list in front of me. I just think we need to let a rookie sit and figure things out instead of instantly throwing him to the wolves.
 
the NY media won't allow it to happen and a good chunk of the fanbase isn't the most patient, but with whoever the next guy is at qb, they need to treat it as a long term investment and stick with them as long as the progress is being shown. let them make their mistakes and take their lumps as long as the development is there.

problem is this, you get stupid ny post and daily news backpage covers talking about, "a star is born" after a week 1 win, Sanchez, and after a week 5 monday night win, Geno and a few weeks later these same dudes are labeled busts and trash. Perhaps that is what they are, but you go from one extreme to the other and back again.

it's alot of the fanbase who I don't think is capable of letting a first round pick qb develop even if the talent is there.  have a bad game in november where you throw 3 or 4 picks over the course of the game,  (not in the first quarter and first 8 passes like geno 
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) and you'll have a portion of the fanbase ready to turn on them, label them a bust, and want to bring in some guy who's been a career backup elsewhere, had a few decent starts but isn't the long term option,   guys like kirk cousins, josh mccown etc.

bradford on the cheap wouldn't be bad though, especially if a qb is drafted with that top pick.  he has something to prove and can take the lumps early in the season and if he doesn't get the job done, bring the rookie in if they decide to go that route.
 
John00 said:
Sam Bradford might be out there.  There's a couple of dudes including Hoyer but I don't have the list in front of me. I just think we need to let a rookie sit and figure things out instead of instantly throwing him to the wolves.
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You either have it or you don't. Watching someone else isn't going to help if you don't have the natural ability to play QB in the NFL. Especially if he didn't come out of an NFL style system.

You have to let the QB play with the wolves so he can learn how to het through the motions.
 
If the situation is a train wreck, its better to let the guy sit initially.

If you got a decent run game and good defense to fall back on as well as a sufficient offensive line then throw them out there but it all depends on the situation of the respective team to me.
 
Sanchez could've been a good QB if he had a coordinator that believed in him, and they didn't do that Tebow nonsense. They ruined Sanchez's career. Would he have been a superstar, no, but with a good run game and a good defense, he'd be a solid player if they handled him correctly from the get go. Schotty did a **** job.
 
I don't care what Idzik says, I care about what he DOES...which hasn't been much. 20 mil under the cap for nothing
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
If the situation is a train wreck, its better to let the guy sit initially.

If you got a decent run game and good defense to fall back on as well as a sufficient offensive line then throw them out there but it all depends on the situation of the respective team to me.
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This was the same situation Mark Sanchez was in and look what happened to him :lol:
 
the thing with sanchez is this, they messed up going into 2011, they let braylon go, they neglected the offensive line, and got rid of cotchery as well, and by 2012 he had a gutted offense.  when sanchez had all that i mentioned, the team almost made it to the super bowl.  hell he played decent in both afc title game L's as well, especially for a rookie and 2nd year qb, i wouldn't fault either of those losses on him.

offensively, unless the qb was rodgers, brees, brady, or peyton they wouldn't do much with that jets offense in 2012.  

a first round draft pick qb especially a top 10 pick is a long term investment.   

look at a guy like david carr,  he might've panned out, showed some flashes with the texans, but his o line was trash, and he was sacked the most times ever in a season for a qb.   you don't want to destroy your qb right off the bat.  if the o line is trash and he gets hit alot, your risking more chances for a potential injury as well.

i'll say this, throw aaron rodgers into the wolves with the 05 49ers (a guy they could've drafted) on team that had no type of talent whatsoever, and you can make the argument that his long term development gets stunted.

it's no specific way to develop a qb, but the jets have been getting it wrong for years now.   for sure guys like luck and peyton come around once every 10 years or so.  other then that it's no guarantee the guy is going to pan out, but it's a good idea to try and help his chances of panning out.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
 
the thing with sanchez is this, they messed up going into 2011, they let braylon go, they neglected the offensive line, and got rid of cotchery as well, and by 2012 he had a gutted offense.  when sanchez had all that i mentioned, the team almost made it to the super bowl.  hell he played decent in both afc title game L's as well, especially for a rookie and 2nd year qb, i wouldn't fault either of those losses on him.

offensively, unless the qb was rodgers, brees, brady, or peyton they wouldn't do much with that jets offense in 2012.  

a first round draft pick qb especially a top 10 pick is a long term investment.   

it's no specific way to develop a qb, but the jets have been getting it wrong for years now.   for sure guys like luck and peyton come around once every 10 years or so.  other then that it's no guarantee the guy is going to pan out, but it's a good idea to try and help his chances of panning out.
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JohnnyRedStorm said:
they also got rid of dustin keller who was one of sanchez's favorite targets. they set him up to fail.
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NY Mavurs said:
I don't care what Idzik says, I care about what he DOES...which hasn't been much. 20 mil under the cap for nothing
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he's gotta go. guy is clueless.
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ElijahDukes said:
He also should have brought back Revis, our secondary is getting exposed every game
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All of this. I got tired of defending Sanchez to a lot of people, he wasn't a stud, but he wasn't a bum either. I still think he has potential to be a good QB in the league, but his development was so inconsistent while he was here. Idzik must go man, huge mistake.
 
I'm saying it right now, I do not want Jameis Winston. We'd be facing the same thing all over again in 2 years. 
 
the amount of times it would be third and long and instead of drawing a pass play Schotty would concede with some ******** three yard run pissed me off man. have some faith in your QB. Sanchez isn't a noodle arm, he could throw a 10 yard pass and get you a first down.
 
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