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they broke into his house and assaulted him... I say he has the right to shoot. I dont know about the 2 shots though.
Homeowner shoots intruder who was not pregnant...
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"stop I am pregnant but that didn't matter when I robbed your house!"
ehhh the old dude will probably be convicted but I still have no remorse for the woman
ehhh the old dude will probably be convicted but I still have no remorse for the woman
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Your ok with citizens handing out death sentances because they feel violated? Dunno how anyone can cape for the dude offing her when she was no longer on his property or a threat. Sounds like premeditated murder honestly. Had she bled out or been hit n the head with the first shot whatever but ur 80 yrs old chasin her into the street and puttin her down like a dog? She fudged up surely but that dont make his actions right or reasonable
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You DO NOT break into someone's house.
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If you run up in someones house you can expect that death is one of the potential consequences. The fact that you're retreating has nothing to do with it. If it was Texas pops would be all good.
It kinda does. If I chased somebody 4 blocks before I caught up to them and killed them, would you say it was an ok kill?
What's the difference between 4 blocks and 60 feet?
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It absolutely changes everything if they were retreating and he didnt fire on his own property. Period
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Nah, not premeditated...
...a home invasion and an ensuing attack is definitely adequate provocation though - doesn't seem like he had too much time to cool down either.
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No he wouldn't. You're allowed only if they're retreating with your property that they've stolen in hand and you don't believe you can recover it otherwise.
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Someone breaks into your house (kids, wife, family all in potential danger), you shoot them, they run away and get away..... Now what? You stay at home all day in fear they come back? The threat is NOT over.
I see why it was done.
I see why it was done.
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premeditated? they robbed his house
premeditated means he went out on the street and shot them because he didn't like the way they looked at him; I still have no remorse for this lady, hate to say it but the world is probably a better place without here on it.
I would also like to confirm she was actually pregnant.
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He didn't have to kill her and shouldn't have, but when you break into someone's house that's the risk you take. I doubt he sees any jail time over this
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You can't use overwhelming force based solely on conjecture. The robbery had already taken place and they retreated once they saw that he had a gun. Once they run away and are off the property you're no longer defending yourself; you're exacting revenge.
And I like how you don't even consider calling the cops after they leave as an option.
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Is your anger not the same? Dude was violated in his own home more than once.
And from the looks of it, the alley outside of his home is literally just beyond his back gate.
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Once they run away the threat is over? Nah. I said calling the cops wasn't an option? Nah.
I like how you didn't even consider not breaking into someone's house an option
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I don't blame the dude, but me, I probably would have just shot them both in the leg to make sure they were still there once the cops got there.
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Premeditated means... Premeditated
Like he had previously made up his mind he was gunna kill burglars. Again if ur 80 yrs old and running theives down n the night bustin shots u wanted to be magnum pi. You werent scared anymore and you certaintly wetent defending yourself or your property anymore.
I dont think anything he did was wrong till he walked into the alley looking to kill the punks.
Like he had previously made up his mind he was gunna kill burglars. Again if ur 80 yrs old and running theives down n the night bustin shots u wanted to be magnum pi. You werent scared anymore and you certaintly wetent defending yourself or your property anymore.
I dont think anything he did was wrong till he walked into the alley looking to kill the punks.
I can be angry, but Im saying from a legal standpoint, Id convict the guy. I don't see how anger has anything to do with it when your on trial
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I'm just dealing with reality on reality's terms. You have no control over the actions of others. They broke into his home, they retreated, and he handled the situation inappropriately.Once they run away the threat is over? Nah. I said calling the cops wasn't an option? Nah.
I like how you didn't even consider not breaking into someone's house an option
You're running on the assumption that it's justified because "they might come back." Which is, again, nothing more than conjecture...and you can't use overwhelming force when it's based off of an assumption. A fairly ridiculous assumption, at that.
Again...I'm gonna keep repeating myself: I have no sympathy for all parties involved in this incident. I'm not gonna co-sign a dude killing someone when they're already down and in the process of retreating.
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And of course there's the "what I would of done while in here talking about it on my computer" talk. This is all in the heat of the moment.
Bottom line, you break into someone's house I hope what you're after is worth your health or life because that's what it might cost
Bottom line, you break into someone's house I hope what you're after is worth your health or life because that's what it might cost
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The burglars burst through the door, the sweet light of freedom hits their face. No time to bask in the glory, the homeowner is in hot pursuit.
They run down his driveway, she trips, her accomplice looks back, but, as they say, no honor among thieves, he continues on.
The homeowner, a gruff, elderly man, hands brittle, soul tired, bares down on her.
She lies there, alone, helpless.
She had scrapped her knee when she fell, it hurts, she can feel the sting of the hot concrete burning her flesh, her jeans were ripped, an odd thing to think about in the final moments.
The gravity of the situations hits her.
'Dont shoot. I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby' she screams, as a last attempt to apeal to his humanity.
Bang.
Bang.
They run down his driveway, she trips, her accomplice looks back, but, as they say, no honor among thieves, he continues on.
The homeowner, a gruff, elderly man, hands brittle, soul tired, bares down on her.
She lies there, alone, helpless.
She had scrapped her knee when she fell, it hurts, she can feel the sting of the hot concrete burning her flesh, her jeans were ripped, an odd thing to think about in the final moments.
The gravity of the situations hits her.
'Dont shoot. I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby' she screams, as a last attempt to apeal to his humanity.
Bang.
Bang.
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So if he had shot and killed them when they were roughing him up, it would be a non-issue...right?
I mean, not only was his house being burglarized, he was assaulted.
I wouldn't find him guilty of anything if I was on that jury.
@ am1 writing a screenplay.
I mean, not only was his house being burglarized, he was assaulted.
I wouldn't find him guilty of anything if I was on that jury.
@ am1 writing a screenplay.
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