Homeowner shoots intruder who was not pregnant...

So if he had shot and killed them when they were roughing him up, it would be a non-issue...right?

I mean, not only was his house being burglarized, he was assaulted.

I wouldn't find him guilty of anything if I was on that jury.
I'd be entirely more sympathetic to the 80 year old man in that instance because that's a clear-cut case of self-defense.

If someone hits you, sprints away, and then you shoot them when they're 100+ feet away from you, that's no longer self-defense. 
 
So basically because they quit the robbing was over, no harm no foul? :lol:

when is a threat not a threat anymore? when they are in an alley and shot twice dead? When they are running away and you have a gun? HWen they are wounded on the ground pleading? Dude could've called the cops and sat posted with his gun.


So if he had shot and killed them when they were roughing him up, it would be a non-issue...right?

I mean, not only was his house being burglarized, he was assaulted.

I wouldn't find him guilty of anything if I was on that jury.

:lol: @ am1 writing a screenplay.

If he shot them while in his house being assaulted, thats self defense
 
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she was probably 5 hours pregnant
I don't even think the pregnancy issue is all that relevant.

What's more relevant was that she was shot down while she was retreating, still alive, and the dude still decided that she needed another bullet in her.
 
dudes in here lying saying they can't make sense of a post 'cause it doesn't have periods and commas.....
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never change NT.....never change
 
Was she really pregnant? Either way it was stupid. You go breaking into someone's house you NEVER know what that can bring, and you're in the wrong. I mean, if she was pregnant, killing her was a bit extreme imo, I would have shot her in the lower extremity to slow her down or something and called the cops, but that's easy to say when it didn't happen to me and I'm not in that moment. 
 
I don't even think the pregnancy issue is all that relevant.

What's more relevant was that she was shot down while she was retreating, still alive, and the dude still decided that she needed another bullet in her.

I mean I get from a legal standpoint this is gonna cause issues both ways no matter what the outcome is but in the heat of the moment after your house was just robbed by two people...

all bets are off to me at that point
 
 
I don't even think the pregnancy issue is all that relevant.

What's more relevant was that she was shot down while she was retreating, still alive, and the dude still decided that she needed another bullet in her.
I mean I get from a legal standpoint this is gonna cause issues both ways no matter what the outcome is but in the heat of the moment after your house was just robbed by two people...

all bets are off to me at that point
Well...what's worth more to you: your material possessions or your freedom?

Wait...I'm probably asking this question on the wrong forum. 
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I don't even think the pregnancy issue is all that relevant.

What's more relevant was that she was shot down while she was retreating, still alive, and the dude still decided that she needed another bullet in her.

I mean I get from a legal standpoint this is gonna cause issues both ways no matter what the outcome is but in the heat of the moment after your house was just robbed by two people...

all bets are off to me at that point

so you're saying that if you shot her once and she was down and out of commission, you'd finish her off? Because all bets are off at that point?
 
Lol abortion is legal yet people still talk about how the baby is a victim. Why is it a baby now and not a fetus? Because its useful for liberals to attack guns? Yep.

Anyway he did what he had the right to do. Dont mess with people's homes.
 
Lol abortion is legal yet people still talk about how the baby is a victim. Why is it a baby now and not a fetus? Because its useful for liberals to attack guns? Yep.

Anyway he did what he had the right to do. Dont mess with people's homes.
Lolwutermelon.

No one said a word about gun control throughout this conversation.  This is more of a "stand your ground" issue than anything else.
 
Well...what's worth more to you: your material possessions or your freedom?

Wait...I'm probably asking this question on the wrong forum. :rofl:

I don't own a gun so this isn't about me; this is about the story at hand, let's focus on that

so you're saying that if you shot her once and she was down and out of commission, you'd finish her off? Because all bets are off at that point?

This isn't about me; I don't have a gun nor probably ever will but I don't blame the 80 year old man for doing what he did, can I make that anymore clear?
 
If the 80 year old didn't have a gun, then what? On top of it all, this was the 2nd time his house was burglarized.

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Also...who is thinking rationally, literally SECONDS, after being assaulted?
 
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Was she really pregnant? Either way it was stupid. You go breaking into someone's house you NEVER know what that can bring, and you're in the wrong. I mean, if she was pregnant, killing her was a bit extreme imo, I would have shot her in the lower extremity to slow her down or something and called the cops, but that's easy to say when it didn't happen to me and I'm not in that moment. 

:lol: This isn't a movie.
 
If the 80 year old didn't have a gun, then what? On top of it all, this was the 2nd time his house was burglarized.
nobody in here said that he doesnt have a right to own a gun and nobody said he doesn't have a right to guard his home. the issue at hand is the pursuing and if you feel that you are in danger while pursuing
 
 
Well...what's worth more to you: your material possessions or your freedom?

Wait...I'm probably asking this question on the wrong forum. 
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I don't own a gun so this isn't about me; this is about the story at hand, let's focus on that
You're not getting it.

What I'm saying is: hypothetically, if you were in his situation and had a gun, would you have done what he did?

I mean...."all bets are off," right?
 
If the 80 year old didn't have a gun, then what? On top of it all, this was the 2nd time his house was burglarized.
nobody in here said that he doesnt have a right to own a gun and nobody said he doesn't have a right to guard his home. the issue at hand is the pursuing and if you feel that you are in danger while pursuing

Who is talking about gun ownership?

Back on topic...I have no issue with him pursuing because no one knows for sure if he was still in danger. 1. He's not thinking clearly. 2. the home has been burglarized before. 3. THere is no telling if the assailants would come back for retribution.

He did what he thought was best to end everything. Like I said...if I was on the jury, I'd have a REAL hard time finding him guilty of anything. This is an 80 year old man who could have just as easily been killed.
 
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You're not getting it.

What I'm saying is: hypothetically, if you were in his situation and had a gun, would you have done what he did?

I mean...."all bets are off," right?

what am I not getting? I can't say what I would do in that situation but considering I don't have a gun nor ever have it's hard to place myself in it

do you want to keep typing the same thing out and over and over until you hear the answer you prefer?

put me on a jury and I would most likely find the dude not guilty
 
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But who's to be sure that they were fleeing the premises or simply running to the car to get a gun of their own? Who's to say that the pregnant woman couldn't have had a weapon concealed herself and used it after she told him to stop shooting? These are all split second decisions, and could have definitely happened, therefore I think the man was justified in shooting the lady mortally...you just never know what could've happened
 
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But who's to be sure that they were fleeing the premises or simply running to the car to get a gun of their own? Who's to say that the pregnant woman couldn't have had a weapon concealed herself and used it after she told him to stop shooting? These are all split second decisions, and could have definitely happened, therefore I think the man was justified in shooting the lady mortally...you just never know

bingo; they could have easily been running to get some weapons or even someone else to help overpower the old man
 
 
Was she really pregnant? Either way it was stupid. You go breaking into someone's house you NEVER know what that can bring, and you're in the wrong. I mean, if she was pregnant, killing her was a bit extreme imo, I would have shot her in the lower extremity to slow her down or something and called the cops, but that's easy to say when it didn't happen to me and I'm not in that moment. 
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This isn't a movie.
look at what I said immediately following that, I understand that it isn't.
 
 
You're not getting it.

What I'm saying is: hypothetically, if you were in his situation and had a gun, would you have done what he did?

I mean...."all bets are off," right?
what am I not getting? I can't say what I would do in that situation but considering I don't have a gun nor ever have it's hard to place myself in it

do you want to keep typing the same thing out and over and over until you hear the answer you prefer?

put me on a jury and I would most likely find the dude not guilty
Look, Stillin...I like you.  You're a good poster, but I see what people mean when they say you're a master deflector.

This is approaching ninjahood-level thickheadedness.
 
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