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Nah no punching walls here.

The fact is we got outplayed on 2 counter attacks and played horrible team defense on them (you think we'd learn by now). It was our death knell last year in our away games vs the Pool/City/Chelsea, you think we would've learned by now. Mertasacker plays WAY too high for his speed.

At the end of the day, if you don't convert your chances you more than likely lose. We had 5-6 solid chances at goal (giroud with most of em) and we couldn't score. We dominated possesion in the first half and couldn't put it in. We deserved to lose, point blank. 

Sadly this mentality of attack no matter what (because you're losing and in a knock out game you really have no choice), leads to counter attacks when the ball is turned over, and BOTH Monaco Goals came that way (not counting the deflection goal).

I would've loved to see the team just shut it down after the Ox goal. We weren't gonna get the equalizer. Point blank.

Credit to Monaco for finishing the few chances they got, but they def didn't DOMINATE us.

All I can hope for is a 3-0 win at Stade Louis, but thats HIGHLY unlikely.

I'm disappointed in our inability to score with so many opportunites, the lack of counter attack defending, and Ospina (felt he couldve done better on the first and third goals).

MORE THAN that, I'm disappointed in Wenger. The one time we actually were favored to win a knockout matchup in CL, and he couldn't rally the troops at halftime.

I really wish Gabriel had been chosen at CB ahead of Per. SMH.

I've been wenger In for a while, but we'll continue being a 3rd/4th place EPL squad unless changes are made. 

Rant over.
 
Wenger should of been out since 2009. Point Blank, I do not understand how some mugs defend Wenger. His Transfers, Tactics have all been questionable. I said this for a long time, The 2006 UCL Final lost messed with wenger. Since then everything has changed. I could go on a long rant but I just cant anymore........Sad thing is I am not surprised.
 
Like Mourinho has said, "If I was Wenger and I hadn't won a trophy in 9 years, I'd leave London and never come back.." & "..Wenger has a dream job, all managers wish to have.."

He's continuously allowed to underachieve because of the great reputation he gained in the early 2000's. How is Wenger supposed to change things when he's never been under pressure to do so? He's way too comfortable and he's been that way for while. One of his biggest problems, his inability to adapt and change. All Wenger does now is complain about the clubs who have money & talk about all the great players who were "close" to signing to Arsenal.

Seriously, he's becoming a joke. The seat's just starting to get hot now, but like dude said - should have been hot 5 years ago.
 
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Rumors are saying that LVG and DDG haven't been on speaking terms for weeks pushing him closer to Real 
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Some more anti LvG flag waving... AS Sport is reporting DdG has a very frosty relationship with LvG. So much so they haven't spoken in months.

http://as.com/diarioas/2015/02/25/english/1424864818_687119.html


Rumors are saying that LVG and DDG haven't been on speaking terms for weeks pushing him closer to Real :smh:  

I mentioned this in a previous post. AS says they haven't spoken in months. What makes it worse is some of the reactions from LvG in his post game pressers. Reporters ask him about the great performances from DdG & he's replied in several instances like it's no big deal (like there was nothing exceptional about it).

Save for the new players, Arsenal need to get rid of all the defenders they have & start over. I think Berbatov is 34-35 years old & not particularly fast anymore. The way they let him run parallel leading up to his goal was just really really really poor. They looked liked keystone cops bumbling around.

Arsenal need to rebuild their back 4 & find a world class striker. Ideally, Giroud is a solid back up striker. That was really sad to see.

Very impressed with Bayer though... I can't wait until fox broadcasts Bundesliga games. Atleti is a very fast team but they had a lot of trouble with Bayer.

When Bayer was off running, they regularly had 4, 5, 6 players on the break running at break neck speed.

It should be a different story at Vicente Calderon though however Atleti will be hampered because of Tiago's red card. I think a couple of players like Godin might be out too because of yellow card accumulation.
 
Hmm, would the LvG disciples rather make De Gea happy so he can sign (which might mean letting LvG go before his contract is up)

or

Would they trust LvG enough going forward to even replace De Gea and let them cash out for him to go Madrid.


United fans let me know :nerd:
 
Hmm, would the LvG disciples rather make De Gea happy so he can sign (which might mean letting LvG go before his contract is up)
It's much easier to rationalize the first train of thought out of the two options you presented. Let's look at the EPL table, United is currently fourth but from them down to Spurs in seventh is a mere separation of 3 points. LVG doesn't secure CL football next year and he's all but sacked. His tactics haven't worked at Old Trafford and the players aren't responding to his influence like van Gaal's Dutch side did nationally. On a positive note, United was able to secure points in four of their last five EPL fixtures (three wins and one tie) while scoring 8 goals in the three victories. Keep in mind, United has a brutal stretch to end the domestic campaign. Hosting Spurs then visiting Anfield. Hosting their Manchester rivals followed by trips to Stamford Bridge and Goodison.
 
Arsenal been buns for years. This is not a surprise. The quality just isn't there. Underachieving players and an underachieving coach. Wenger got too comfortable knowing his job security was never in jeopardy.

Funny thing is, Monaco knocks them out and Monaco in turn gets knocked out easily in the next round. You know your team is trash when you make a guy like moutinho look good :lol:
 
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It's much easier to rationalize the first train of thought out of the two options you presented. Let's look at the EPL table, United is currently fourth but from them down to Spurs in seventh is a mere separation of 3 points. LVG doesn't secure CL football next year and he's all but sacked. His tactics haven't worked at Old Trafford and the players aren't responding to his influence like van Gaal's Dutch side did nationally. On a positive note, United was able to secure points in four of their last five EPL fixtures (three wins and one tie) while scoring 8 goals in the three victories. Keep in mind, United has a brutal stretch to end the domestic campaign. Hosting Spurs then visiting Anfield. Hosting their Manchester rivals followed by trips to Stamford Bridge and Goodison.

I agree with everything you said, many in this thread have said the same thing, especially Psk. Him and I were one of the few who never hopped on the LvG train.

But there is still lots of LvG support out there and even if he doesn't make the top 4 I don't think he's sacked. United still believe in him and they cannot fire two managers in a year, they can't risk that embarrassment. They'd ride with him until at least the end of next season. But when if these De Gea rumors are true, I think it's the only way United start second guessing LvG quicker than they would. De yea would be the exception.

Or maybe not? thats the question. (Btw, I already got a good avy in mind for you)
 
I agree with everything you said, many in this thread have said the same thing, especially Psk.

(Btw, I already got a good avy in mind for you)
Although the Dutch came up short against Argentina in the 2014 WC, I was a staunch proponent of LVG's willingness to roll the dice and play young footballers. Memphis, Wijnaldum, Clasie, Willems, de Vrij.

However, for club, let's entertain your hypothetical situation. The United board has to decide between van Gaal and de Gea. Let's assume United finishes outside the top-4 in EPL, a distinct possibility given tough fixtures. de Gea wishes to depart to RM and Florentino green lights an astronomical transfer fee, per usual. Who is the ideal keeper replacement at Old Trafford, Cillessen?

I'm cringing at the thought. A month is a long time for torture.
 
I don't get Real sometimes.  Why bring in Navas (if they somehow swoop for DDG)?

In other news I shut the Gunners game off after the first goal.  I want Wenger out & ownership that knows what they're doing/has alot of money and can find someone who does.
 
Pretty sure this is Iker's last season. So i'm thinking Nava's is the backup they want to get acclimated to the club already until DDG gets settled. Which should'nt take long.

On the LVG issue, from what I remember last year Klopp was United's first choice and he immediately turned it down so LVG was the backup. It was made clear he would only be at the club during the transition period 3-4 years to secure CL football and bring the club back from he depth's of 7th place.
 
What united needs to do is get rid of LVG. Dude has been riding on past success for too long.

United needs to bring in klopp and reus will follow. Keep DDG. Bring back nani. Get rid of evans, Jones, smalling. Bring in 2 good central defenders and the team will be at the top again.
 
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The United topic is quite interesting.

I do believe if United do not qualify for CL then he is in Jeopardy of losing his job. They have too much on the line especially with the Chevy and Adidas contract.

Secondly, unless we are friends of the players or on the squad nobody truly knows whats going on so i do read reports but at the end of the day everything thats happening in the dressing room may not end up on paper.

I think United an still do it but honestly look at the games, the results they get makes it seem that the formation is not working or whatever he is doing is not working but A LOT of it has to do with execution. Nobody can honestly say that there are more than 2 or 3 players in form for United at a given time. One of those players will mostly/always be de Gea. If Rooney, Falcao, RVP, Di Maria were all playing at the level we know they can play at, do you really think we would be complaining. How many pass has United misplaced in the midfield. How many clear or very possible chances has Falcao and RVP missed. Di Maria loses the ball more than any attacking player! I said this before but a coach can only do so much, players have to execute. yea some of his player positions can be brought into question but players play. They do need to fill in spots to be a complete team again but they can finish top 4 with the current squad. We do have a tough schedule remaining but so do other teams. its EPL anybody can win.

also we can't compare this squad to the winning team we know them to be. you can't just replace the experience and chemistry they lost in the midfield and back 4 in the past year in just 1 year.
 
the ddg and lvg rumor is just click bait. no silly season need something to get haters to get excited about. DDG has played every game this season, surely a coach that hates would bench you especially in those fa cup games against lesser competition. 
 
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